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[email protected] December 10th 05 11:52 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.


tacoexpress December 11th 05 12:02 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
Interesting topic for the rec.boats forum...

It's broad sweeping generalizations like "Liberal Media Bias" that make
it difficult for constructive discourse between groups with differing
views. You can't believe everything that Rush tells you. Stop fueling
the fire and make a real point.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447


[email protected] December 11th 05 12:28 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
i"ve never seen nor heard Rush.


Jim Carter December 11th 05 12:34 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.


What massacre would that be?

Jim C.



tacoexpress December 11th 05 12:35 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is
that simply your own perception?


Dan J.S. December 11th 05 12:51 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"tacoexpress" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is
that simply your own perception?


It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when
contrasting with today's events.



JimH December 11th 05 01:27 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

"tacoexpress" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is
that simply your own perception?


It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when
contrasting with today's events.


e.g.
=================================================
http://tinyurl.com/bmrls

How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas -
and how you can fight back now

The War on Christmas

by John Gibson

"Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you
with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier
in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a
neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity
from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us,
to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the
all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in
America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside.

In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred
Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson
reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On
the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas
campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven
politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But
for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are
already fighting to retake their place in the public square.

Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state
government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In
Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a
public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned
even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona
school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any
reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But
according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely
unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the
Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public
celebration of Christmas.

What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise
of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions
of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and
liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from
being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for
all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American
public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!"

The War on Christmas reveals:

- Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized
manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas

- How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has
been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously
unconstitutional

- Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and
Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas

- How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue
state strongholds, but in the American heartland

- The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State:
how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas
warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism,
and Judaism

- The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against
Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public
life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that
contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity
and was thus unconstitutional

- Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America,
and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by
the ACLU)

- The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree
that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its
thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit

- How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public
schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain
support for their war on Christmas

- How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie
bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season"

- Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers
"Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror
of the politically correct establishment

- The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and
defend Christmas

- How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's
willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people
are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep
their beliefs private and tucked out of sight
====================

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-)




JimH December 11th 05 01:32 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.


Those protesters in the south of China? They were just contract workers
for Wal-Mart who wanted one pee break every three days.



Actually the word was they wanted out of a retail union and were killed
during their protest against the retail union. ;-)

The retail union thugs then marked their names in the snow noting the event
like a dog would do at a fire hydrant.

Keep up with the news Harry. ;-)



Bill McKee December 11th 05 01:33 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.


What massacre would that be?

Jim C.



http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.as...27598&nav=0RaP



Bill McKee December 11th 05 01:34 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.


Those protesters in the south of China? They were just contract workers
for Wal-Mart who wanted one pee break every three days.

--
GOP Credo: Just pretend it's all ok.


Harry's Credo: If they work for a Wal-Mart supplier, it is Ok to kill them.



Jim Carter December 11th 05 02:03 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.

I checked with a source, in Asia, and found that only two were killed and
several wounded. It seems that the villagers attacked the police and some
resisted arrest while others were prepared to "fire bomb" the police.

Perhaps the killings were justified????

Here is another report from the "news blaze" Radio Free Asia.

Chinese Police Fire on Protesters, Killing At Least Two
By Radio Free Asia

HONG KONG - At least two villagers in China's southern province of Guangdong
have died after police fired on a crowd protesting the construction of a
wind power plant, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reports.

Witnesses told RFA's Mandarin service that by 9:30 p.m. Tuesday, villagers
Jiang Hu and Jiang Guanji had died in the local hospital while a third,
identified as Tang Daxiang, was receiving emergency treatment. Dongzhou
Hospital authorities near the city of Shanwei confirmed two deaths and one
wounded undergoing treatment, but they declined to give names.

"At least four villagers have died," another villager said at approximately
11:30 p.m. "There is a dead body on the street yet to be retrieved. Many are
wounded by gunshots. I don't know what kind of guns. I just know they were
using real bullets on us. No policemen were wounded."

"The hospital has become a virtual funeral hall with family members of the
dead crying," one villager told reporter Ding Xiao.

"They were bleeding. One was hit in the head, one in the foot, and one in
the torso. They have been rushed to Dongzhou Hospital. We have prepared
detonators. We're ready to fight," another said.

Riot police sent

According to several eyewitness accounts, hundreds of riot police moved into
the site of the wind power plant Monday after a long-simmering dispute over
how much villagers should be paid for land slated to become a wind-power
plant. Around midday Tuesday, three representatives from Dongzhou village
went to the site to see what was happening. The three villagers were
immediately detained, witnesses said.

Shortly after 5 p.m., thousands of villagers showed up at the site of the
plant and demanded the release of the three representatives, they said.
Police stationed inside the power plant fired tear gas at the crowd but
caused no serious injuries. Later Tuesday, authorities dispatched several
hundred more riot police to the site of the plant but they were stopped
outside Dongzhou village by villagers.

"We are really scared. We need your help. The riot police are at the
entrance of our village. There are several hundred of them, between 400 and
500," one villager said in an interview that was cut off several times.

No answer, no comment from officials

"They were firing shots. But they were afraid to move in. We had blocked the
roads with water pipes, gasoline and detonators," another villager said.
"And there were about 10,000 villagers there. We tried calling the central
government several times for help. But all we got was answering machines."

Riot police have now crashed through roadblocks set up by villagers and
dismantled their tents near the power plant. Villagers have retreated back
to Dongzhou village, they said.

Li Min, deputy mayor of Shanwei and chief of public security, asked to
comment by phone, said only, "I don't know" and hung up. Guangdong
provincial public security offices and the Guangdong provincial government
went unanswered.

A duty officer at the Dongzhou police station said, "I am not familiar with
the situation." Asked to confirm that two villagers had died, he said,
"There is no such thing," and hung up.

Local sources said construction began on a wind-power plant several months
ago but halted amid a dispute over land compensation.



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news and
information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full, accurate,
and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the highest
standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and fairness in
its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from the nonprofit
Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG).












JimH December 11th 05 02:11 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
"tacoexpress" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is
that simply your own perception?

It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when
contrasting with today's events.


e.g.
=================================================
http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls


How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas -

and how you can fight back now

The War on Christmas

by John Gibson

"Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you
with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier
in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a
neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity
from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us,
to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the
all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in
America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside.

In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred
Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson
reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On
the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas
campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven
politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But
for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are
already fighting to retake their place in the public square.

Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state
government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In
Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a
public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned
even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona
school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any
reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But
according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely
unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the
Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public
celebration of Christmas.

What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise
of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions
of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and
liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from
being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for
all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American
public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!"

The War on Christmas reveals:

- Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized
manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas

- How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has
been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously
unconstitutional

- Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and
Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas

- How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue
state strongholds, but in the American heartland

- The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State:
how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas
warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism,
and Judaism

- The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against
Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public
life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that
contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity
and was thus unconstitutional

- Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America,
and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by
the ACLU)

- The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree
that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its
thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit

- How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public
schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain
support for their war on Christmas

- How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie
bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season"

- Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers
"Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror
of the politically correct establishment

- The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and
defend Christmas

- How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's
willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people
are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep
their beliefs private and tucked out of sight
====================

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-)




A crock of absolute, complete, simple-minded right-wing crap.




How so Harry?



thunder December 11th 05 02:13 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:51 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:


Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news
and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full,
accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the
highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and
fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from
the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG).


The BBC report is similar.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4517706.stm

JimH December 11th 05 02:32 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
"tacoexpress" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or
is
that simply your own perception?

It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when
contrasting with today's events.

e.g.
=================================================
http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls


How the ACLU


This b.s. you're posting doesn't smell any better when you repost it. It


Then why do you keep snipping it?

Here is it again for you Harry.

You may want to buy the book.
=================================================
http://tinyurl.com/bmrls

How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas -
and how you can fight back now

The War on Christmas

by John Gibson

"Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you
with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier
in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a
neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity
from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us,
to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the
all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in
America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside.

In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred
Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson
reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On
the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas
campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven
politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But
for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are
already fighting to retake their place in the public square.

Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state
government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In
Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a
public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned
even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona
school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any
reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But
according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely
unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the
Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public
celebration of Christmas.

What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise
of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions
of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and
liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from
being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for
all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American
public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!"

The War on Christmas reveals:

- Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized
manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas

- How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has
been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously
unconstitutional

- Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and
Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas

- How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue
state strongholds, but in the American heartland

- The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State:
how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas
warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism,
and Judaism

- The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against
Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public
life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that
contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity
and was thus unconstitutional

- Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America,
and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by
the ACLU)

- The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree
that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its
thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit

- How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public
schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain
support for their war on Christmas

- How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie
bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season"

- Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers
"Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror
of the politically correct establishment

- The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and
defend Christmas

- How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's
willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people
are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep
their beliefs private and tucked out of sight
====================

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-)





JimH December 11th 05 02:33 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:51 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:


Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts news
and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full,
accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the
highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and
fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant from
the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG).


The BBC report is similar.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4517706.stm



Wow! Of course, they could have been Iraqis attending a wedding party next
door to a building the US Air Force bombed.



A book you may want to read Harry:

=================================================
http://tinyurl.com/bmrls

How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas -
and how you can fight back now

The War on Christmas

by John Gibson

"Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you
with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier
in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a
neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity
from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us,
to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the
all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in
America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside.

In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred
Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson
reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On
the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas
campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven
politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But
for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are
already fighting to retake their place in the public square.

Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state
government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In
Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a
public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned
even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona
school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any
reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But
according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely
unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the
Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public
celebration of Christmas.

What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise
of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions
of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and
liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from
being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for
all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American
public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!"

The War on Christmas reveals:

- Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized
manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas

- How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has
been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously
unconstitutional

- Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and
Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas

- How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue
state strongholds, but in the American heartland

- The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State:
how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas
warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism,
and Judaism

- The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against
Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public
life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that
contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity
and was thus unconstitutional

- Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America,
and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by
the ACLU)

- The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree
that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its
thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit

- How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public
schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain
support for their war on Christmas

- How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie
bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season"

- Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers
"Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror
of the politically correct establishment

- The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and
defend Christmas

- How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's
willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people
are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep
their beliefs private and tucked out of sight
====================

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-)





Jim Carter December 11th 05 02:36 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:51 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:


Radio Free Asia is a private, nonprofit corporation that broadcasts

news
and information to listeners in those East Asian countries where full,
accurate, and timely news reports are unavailable. RFA adheres to the
highest standards of journalism and strives for accuracy, balance, and
fairness in its editorial content. RFA is funded by an annual grant

from
the nonprofit Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG).


The BBC report is similar.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4517706.stm



Wow! Of course, they could have been Iraqis attending a wedding party
next door to a building the US Air Force bombed.


Harry, I purposely quoted the news clip from "Radio Free Asia" because it is
very right wing. This is the station that is broadcasting reports for the
CIA. It is also funded by the CIA. This was to counter the thread
started that was saying reports are not taken seriously by the "liberal"
media.

Harry, check it out please.......

Jim C.



John H. December 11th 05 02:45 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On 10 Dec 2005 14:52:36 -0800, wrote:

Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.


It's been reported on Fox several times. But, according to many here, it must therefore be a lie.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

thunder December 11th 05 02:47 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:36:16 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:


Harry, I purposely quoted the news clip from "Radio Free Asia" because it
is very right wing. This is the station that is broadcasting reports for
the CIA. It is also funded by the CIA. This was to counter the thread
started that was saying reports are not taken seriously by the "liberal"
media.

Harry, check it out please.......


It's too early to say with any certainty the situation in China, but I
have always been surprised at the violence in some Asian protests. IIRC,
several demonstrations in S. Korea and Japan, the use of fire bombs were
common. There was a protest over an airport, several years back, that had
fire bombs used against the police almost daily.

JimH December 11th 05 02:52 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
"tacoexpress" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or
is
that simply your own perception?

It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views
when contrasting with today's events.

e.g.
=================================================
http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls
How the ACLU
This b.s. you're posting doesn't smell any better when you repost it. It


Then why do you keep snipping it?



I'm performing a public service.

The reality is, Christmas itself is a canard, a holiday
that only by convention is celebrated on the 25th of December. The date
itself has nothing to do with the man now called Jesus. What you are
celebrating is a holiday created from whole cloth by Constantine the Great
in the fourth century. He picked the same date as an existing pagan
festival.

Jesus, a pious Jewish man, probably would have disdained the holiday named
for him via a name that was not his.


Probably not Harry.

=================================================
http://tinyurl.com/bmrls

How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas -
and how you can fight back now

The War on Christmas

by John Gibson

"Happy holidays!" Every time a supermarket checker or store clerk greets you
with those words instead of "Merry Christmas," you have met another soldier
in the war against Christmas. Secularists are bent on imposing upon us a
neutered, secular winter holiday that throws out every trace of Christianity
from the public observance of Christmas. It's all necessary, they tell us,
to avoid offending non-Christians and, above all, to keep from violating the
all-important separation of church and state. Meanwhile, Christians in
America are increasingly marginalized and shunted aside.

In The War On Christmas: How the Conspiracy to Subvert Our Most Sacred
Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought, popular FOX News anchor John Gibson
reveals that this is not happening because of some cultural consensus. On
the contrary, he explains that a thorough and virulent anti-Christmas
campaign is being waged today by liberal activists, ACLU fanatics, craven
politicians, sinister agenda-driven educators, and witless media mavens. But
for all their efforts, the Grinches have not won: plucky Christians are
already fighting to retake their place in the public square.

Gibson reveals just how bad things have become: in Illinois, state
government workers were forbidden to say "Merry Christmas" while at work. In
Rhode Island, local officials banned Christians from participating in a
public project to decorate the lawn of City Hall. A New Jersey school banned
even instrumental versions of traditional Christmas carols. And Arizona
school officials ruled it unconstitutional for a student to make any
reference to the religious history of Christmas in a class project. But
according to Gibson, despite what the ACLU says, all of this is completely
unnecessary from a genuine Constitutional perspective: the last thing on the
Founding Fathers' mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" was the banning of all public
celebration of Christmas.

What's more, the Left's campaign to infringe upon Christians' free exercise
of their religion has not achieved total victory. Gibson shows how millions
of Americans are starting to fight back against the secularist forces and
liberal local officials. He shows you how you can help save Christmas from
being twisted beyond recognition. The War on Christmas is a perfect gift for
all those who want to restore Christianity to its rightful place in American
public life -- give it to them with a hearty "Merry Christmas!"

The War on Christmas reveals:

- Proof: Christmas is under attack in such a sustained and strategized
manner that there is without any doubt a war on Christmas

- How the Constitutional concept of non-establishment of a religion has
been twisted into a hostility to Christianity that is itself quite obviously
unconstitutional

- Common sight in American public schools every December: Hanukkah and
Kwanza decorations proliferating everywhere, but nary a mention of Christmas

- How the war on Christmas is not just being fought in loony-left blue
state strongholds, but in the American heartland

- The ACLU, ADL, and Americans for the Separation of Church and State:
how they provide the legal muscle and contorted logic to anti-Christmas
warriors while looking approvingly on public expressions of Islam, Hinduism,
and Judaism

- The ridiculous lengths to which the ACLU has gone in its war against
Christmas and its quest to remove all vestiges of Christianity from public
life -- including its argument that a rural Georgia school calendar that
contained the word "Christmas" represented state endorsement of Christianity
and was thus unconstitutional

- Amateur constitutionalists who occupy positions of power in America,
and are making up the law as they go along (often after being intimidated by
the ACLU)

- The ACLU lawyer who, on his lunch break, inspected a Christmas tree
that had been set up in the Pennsylvania state capitol and found, among its
thousand ornaments, three that were cross-shaped -- and promptly filed suit

- How liberals stir up fears of aggressive Christians' turning public
schools into religious organizations and America into a theocracy to gain
support for their war on Christmas

- How officials forbade a Texas schoolgirl to give other students goodie
bags inscribed "Jesus is the reason for the season"

- Roger Ailes: how he put identification breaks that wished viewers
"Merry Christmas" on the air on Fox News stations -- to the shock and horror
of the politically correct establishment

- The throngs of lawyers who are now willing to take on the ACLU and
defend Christmas

- How Christmas has become the new litmus test of our nation's
willingness to abide by its own Constitution, to make certain that people
are free to express their religion without being told that they must keep
their beliefs private and tucked out of sight
====================

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. ;-)





John H. December 11th 05 02:55 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On 10 Dec 2005 15:02:07 -0800, "tacoexpress" wrote:

Interesting topic for the rec.boats forum...

It's broad sweeping generalizations like "Liberal Media Bias" that make
it difficult for constructive discourse between groups with differing
views. You can't believe everything that Rush tells you. Stop fueling
the fire and make a real point.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447


This line seems to say a lot:

A full 92% of responding journalists said the quality of economic policy coverage on broadcast TV
networks was only "fair" or "poor," with just 6% saying it was "good" and not a single respondent
saying it was "excellent."

And that's with journalists rating journalists! Thirty-five percent thought the major daily
newspapers were 'fair' or 'poor'. And that's journalists rating journalists!

Of the minority who do not identify with the center, most have left leanings concerning social
issues and right leanings concerning economic ones. (But go look at the numbers.)

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John H. December 11th 05 02:56 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:06:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
"tacoexpress" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm curious then where you adopted the term "liberal media bias" or is
that simply your own perception?

It's the truth... the media has taken upon a lot of Marxist views when
contrasting with today's events.


e.g.
=================================================
http://right-wing-b.s./bmrls

How the ACLU and other secularist Grinches have almost stolen Christmas -



A crock of absolute, complete, simple-minded right-wing crap.


You read it, Harry? Didn't think so. More mindless spewing, right?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

JimH December 11th 05 03:07 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Then why do you keep snipping it?

I'm performing a public service.

The reality is, Christmas itself is a canard, a holiday
that only by convention is celebrated on the 25th of December. The date
itself has nothing to do with the man now called Jesus. What you are
celebrating is a holiday created from whole cloth by Constantine the
Great in the fourth century. He picked the same date as an existing
pagan festival.

Jesus, a pious Jewish man, probably would have disdained the holiday
named for him via a name that was not his.


Probably not Harry.


Really, and what you base that on? Your extensive knowledge of first
century pious Jews?


A more reliable source than you base your BS on.

Merry Christmas Harry.



thunder December 11th 05 03:22 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:55:42 -0500, John H. wrote:


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447


This line seems to say a lot:

A full 92% of responding journalists said the quality of economic policy
coverage on broadcast TV networks was only "fair" or "poor," with just 6%
saying it was "good" and not a single respondent saying it was
"excellent."

And that's with journalists rating journalists! Thirty-five percent
thought the major daily newspapers were 'fair' or 'poor'. And that's
journalists rating journalists!

Of the minority who do not identify with the center, most have left
leanings concerning social issues and right leanings concerning economic
ones. (But go look at the numbers.)


And all of the above are indications of an incompetent media, not a
"liberal" biased one.

John H. December 11th 05 03:26 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:22:47 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:55:42 -0500, John H. wrote:


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447


This line seems to say a lot:

A full 92% of responding journalists said the quality of economic policy
coverage on broadcast TV networks was only "fair" or "poor," with just 6%
saying it was "good" and not a single respondent saying it was
"excellent."

And that's with journalists rating journalists! Thirty-five percent
thought the major daily newspapers were 'fair' or 'poor'. And that's
journalists rating journalists!

Of the minority who do not identify with the center, most have left
leanings concerning social issues and right leanings concerning economic
ones. (But go look at the numbers.)


And all of the above are indications of an incompetent media, not a
"liberal" biased one.


Could they be incompetent *because* of their liberal bias? Fox doesn't seem 'liberally biased', yet
it reports news not heard on the 'major' networks.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

[email protected] December 11th 05 04:13 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
Harry Krause is the kind of person who defended Stalin. The same type
of person defended the mass firing squads of Che Guevara. His type
defended the Khmer Rouge as being simply "overenthusiastic
revolutionaries". Now he defends Saddam and the PRC. He has too
because the blood on his hands simply will not come off.


thunder December 11th 05 04:42 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:13:56 -0800, dbohara wrote:

His type defended
the Khmer Rouge as being simply "overenthusiastic revolutionaries".


But your type didn't? I hadn't realized you weren't American.

http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/hermansept97.htm

Bill McKee December 11th 05 08:22 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.

I checked with a source, in Asia, and found that only two were killed and
several wounded. It seems that the villagers attacked the police and
some
resisted arrest while others were prepared to "fire bomb" the police.

Perhaps the killings were justified????



And you argued the same justification for Kent State? They were throwing
rocks. Thats dangerous.



Bill McKee December 11th 05 08:23 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:36:16 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:


Harry, I purposely quoted the news clip from "Radio Free Asia" because
it
is very right wing. This is the station that is broadcasting reports
for
the CIA. It is also funded by the CIA. This was to counter the
thread
started that was saying reports are not taken seriously by the "liberal"
media.

Harry, check it out please.......


It's too early to say with any certainty the situation in China, but I
have always been surprised at the violence in some Asian protests. IIRC,
several demonstrations in S. Korea and Japan, the use of fire bombs were
common. There was a protest over an airport, several years back, that
had
fire bombs used against the police almost daily.


Kent State.



So agree the troops were also justified at Kent State?



Jim Carter December 11th 05 02:32 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.

I checked with a source, in Asia, and found that only two were killed

and
several wounded. It seems that the villagers attacked the police and
some
resisted arrest while others were prepared to "fire bomb" the police.

Perhaps the killings were justified????



And you argued the same justification for Kent State? They were throwing
rocks. Thats dangerous.

I argued for the same justification for Kent State???? When did I do
that???

Jim C.



Jim Carter December 11th 05 02:37 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No, dummy, I'm not. I'm suggesting that the government in this country
is sometimes no different than the government in the PRC. It kills
people when there is no reason for it.

Harry, you need to do some research into this incident. I do believe the
shootings were justified. The police were shooting in self defense against
people tossing fire bombs at them and attacking with machete type weapons.
This is easily verified with the reports by the independent news agencies
there, including your own government's agency who reported it for Radio Free
Asia.

Jim C.



Lord Reginald Smithers December 11th 05 04:23 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
JimH,

Jesus was not interested in creating a new religion. His idea was to bring
about a change in the Jewish faith, and he was open to allowing non Jews to
be part of this change. Christianity originally was Jews who followed the
teachings of Christ. When the Jews were resistant to the change, the
followers of Christ pulled away from Judaism and actively sought gentiles to
join their movement of following the teachings of Christ.

This is from the bible.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Then why do you keep snipping it?

I'm performing a public service.

The reality is, Christmas itself is a canard, a holiday
that only by convention is celebrated on the 25th of December. The date
itself has nothing to do with the man now called Jesus. What you are
celebrating is a holiday created from whole cloth by Constantine the
Great in the fourth century. He picked the same date as an existing
pagan festival.

Jesus, a pious Jewish man, probably would have disdained the holiday
named for him via a name that was not his.

Probably not Harry.


Really, and what you base that on? Your extensive knowledge of first
century pious Jews?


A more reliable source than you base your BS on.

Merry Christmas Harry.




Lord Reginald Smithers December 11th 05 04:39 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
Correction: Jesus really did not want to preach to Gentiles, his message
was for the chosen people, the Jews.


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JimH,

Jesus was not interested in creating a new religion. His idea was to
bring about a change in the Jewish faith, and he was open to allowing non
Jews to be part of this change. Christianity originally was Jews who
followed the teachings of Christ. When the Jews were resistant to the
change, the followers of Christ pulled away from Judaism and actively
sought gentiles to join their movement of following the teachings of
Christ.

This is from the bible.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Then why do you keep snipping it?

I'm performing a public service.

The reality is, Christmas itself is a canard, a holiday
that only by convention is celebrated on the 25th of December. The
date itself has nothing to do with the man now called Jesus. What you
are celebrating is a holiday created from whole cloth by Constantine
the Great in the fourth century. He picked the same date as an
existing pagan festival.

Jesus, a pious Jewish man, probably would have disdained the holiday
named for him via a name that was not his.

Probably not Harry.

Really, and what you base that on? Your extensive knowledge of first
century pious Jews?


A more reliable source than you base your BS on.

Merry Christmas Harry.






Bert Robbins December 11th 05 05:22 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Harry Krause is the kind of person who defended Stalin. The same type
of person defended the mass firing squads of Che Guevara. His type
defended the Khmer Rouge as being simply "overenthusiastic
revolutionaries". Now he defends Saddam and the PRC. He has too
because the blood on his hands simply will not come off.


You really and truly are retarded. No one in this newsgroup has posted
more strongly against the PRC than I have.


Only because they haven't allowed labor unions!




Lord Reginald Smithers December 11th 05 05:25 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
I remember when Harry used to degrade anyone who purchased Japanese
products. He said all products made in Japan should have a label saying
"From the people who brought you Pearl Harbor". Harry is very flexible and
blows which ever way the DNC tells him to blow.


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Harry Krause is the kind of person who defended Stalin. The same type
of person defended the mass firing squads of Che Guevara. His type
defended the Khmer Rouge as being simply "overenthusiastic
revolutionaries". Now he defends Saddam and the PRC. He has too
because the blood on his hands simply will not come off.


You really and truly are retarded. No one in this newsgroup has posted
more strongly against the PRC than I have.


Only because they haven't allowed labor unions!






Dan J.S. December 11th 05 08:18 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 



I'm performing a public service.

The reality is, Christmas itself is a canard, a holiday
that only by convention is celebrated on the 25th of December. The date
itself has nothing to do with the man now called Jesus. What you are
celebrating is a holiday created from whole cloth by Constantine the Great
in the fourth century. He picked the same date as an existing pagan
festival.

Jesus, a pious Jewish man, probably would have disdained the holiday named
for him via a name that was not his.




This is so funny! Where did you read this? I love it how people re-write
history all the time.



Bill McKee December 11th 05 08:44 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No, dummy, I'm not. I'm suggesting that the government in this country
is sometimes no different than the government in the PRC. It kills
people when there is no reason for it.

Harry, you need to do some research into this incident. I do believe the
shootings were justified. The police were shooting in self defense
against
people tossing fire bombs at them and attacking with machete type weapons.
This is easily verified with the reports by the independent news agencies
there, including your own government's agency who reported it for Radio
Free
Asia.

Jim C.



So the Kent State protesters who threw dangerous rocks, were also justified
in being shot down?



Bill McKee December 11th 05 08:46 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
Anybody else notice how the corrupt liberal media has failed to report
on the massacre going on in China right now? Of course they wont
report it because this would tarnish the image of the system they love
so much.
I checked with a source, in Asia, and found that only two were killed

and
several wounded. It seems that the villagers attacked the police and
some
resisted arrest while others were prepared to "fire bomb" the police.

Perhaps the killings were justified????


And you argued the same justification for Kent State? They were
throwing
rocks. Thats dangerous.

I argued for the same justification for Kent State???? When did I do
that???

Jim C.



Several of the righties here, McKee among them, are not what may be
described as "careful readers." Worse, they'll take one statement of yours
(or mine, or anyone else they disagree with) and try to portmanteau it
with a boxful of disparate thoughts or ideas and accuse you of something
you never thought of or considered.

It's the kind of crap that's played on Faux News.




You seem to lack a logical mind, both of you. You say it was justified that
the protestors were shot because they were throwing dangerous items. So the
Kent State protestors were also throwing dangerous items. Therefore, you
also approve of the Kent State shootings.



Lord Reginald Smithers December 11th 05 10:34 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 
Bill,
I don't believe the protestors deserved to be shot, but when I hear people
placing the blame for the tragedy entirely on the National Guard, it makes
me sick. Those guys were scared to death, and the protestors were doing
their best to make sure they stayed scared.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
k.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No, dummy, I'm not. I'm suggesting that the government in this country
is sometimes no different than the government in the PRC. It kills
people when there is no reason for it.

Harry, you need to do some research into this incident. I do believe
the
shootings were justified. The police were shooting in self defense
against
people tossing fire bombs at them and attacking with machete type
weapons.
This is easily verified with the reports by the independent news agencies
there, including your own government's agency who reported it for Radio
Free
Asia.

Jim C.



So the Kent State protesters who threw dangerous rocks, were also
justified in being shot down?




JimH December 11th 05 10:57 PM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
Bill,
I don't believe the protestors deserved to be shot, but when I hear people
placing the blame for the tragedy entirely on the National Guard, it makes
me sick. Those guys were scared to death, and the protestors were doing
their best to make sure they stayed scared.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
k.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No, dummy, I'm not. I'm suggesting that the government in this country
is sometimes no different than the government in the PRC. It kills
people when there is no reason for it.
Harry, you need to do some research into this incident. I do believe
the
shootings were justified. The police were shooting in self defense
against
people tossing fire bombs at them and attacking with machete type
weapons.
This is easily verified with the reports by the independent news
agencies
there, including your own government's agency who reported it for Radio
Free
Asia.

Jim C.



So the Kent State protesters who threw dangerous rocks, were also
justified in being shot down?




The protestors did not deserve to be shot at. 4 unarmed student protestors
were killed, 9 wounded. I don't care if rocks were being thrown.

The blame goes to James Rhodes, governor of Ohio at the time, who sent in
the National Guard and to General Canterbury who ordered the Guard members
to lock and load their weapons. The rest is history and tragic.



Bill McKee December 12th 05 12:48 AM

Corrupt liberal media fails to cover the news
 

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
wrote in message ...
Bill,
I don't believe the protestors deserved to be shot, but when I hear
people placing the blame for the tragedy entirely on the National Guard,
it makes me sick. Those guys were scared to death, and the protestors
were doing their best to make sure they stayed scared.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
k.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No, dummy, I'm not. I'm suggesting that the government in this country
is sometimes no different than the government in the PRC. It kills
people when there is no reason for it.
Harry, you need to do some research into this incident. I do believe
the
shootings were justified. The police were shooting in self defense
against
people tossing fire bombs at them and attacking with machete type
weapons.
This is easily verified with the reports by the independent news
agencies
there, including your own government's agency who reported it for Radio
Free
Asia.

Jim C.



So the Kent State protesters who threw dangerous rocks, were also
justified in being shot down?




The protestors did not deserve to be shot at. 4 unarmed student
protestors were killed, 9 wounded. I don't care if rocks were being
thrown.

The blame goes to James Rhodes, governor of Ohio at the time, who sent in
the National Guard and to General Canterbury who ordered the Guard members
to lock and load their weapons. The rest is history and tragic.


But Harry and JimC say the Chinese deserved to be shot as they were tossing
things.




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