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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:41:53 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about
my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

JohnH,

I am not Catholic, but I thought Christmas Mass was like a Jewish Temple
for
the High Holidays. You had so many people showing up that they had
trouble
sitting all of the people who wanted to attend. Many temples will provide
tickets to the active members of the temple. Do they ever limit
attendance
to at the Church to active Catholics? Or do they allow the dregs of
society
in?

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active, devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?


Most Catholic churches have a 'midnight mass' which is, as you say,
packed. There are also masses on
Christmas day, but the midnight mass seems to be the most popular. I've
never heard of tickets being
used, or any other attempt to limit attendance. The dregs are allowed.

If Harry is attending such a mass, then he surely has a motive. My guess
is that he was invited to
attend by someone to whom he feels a need to 'suck up'. Or, he just wants
to be able to disparage
the mass next time he's in the group. Or both.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



Both of you are appearing a bit foolish for putting down a man planning to
attend Christmas mass.

John, you may want to take your sig line to heart,. ;-)

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Bert Robbins wrote:

I have heard that the Jewish Temples will reserve, for a fee, a seat for
those that regularly attend services and for those the have a very fat check
book, this is according to my next door neighbor who is Jewish.

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active, devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?

Everyone is welcome, even Harry. The Catholic are in the business of saving
souls and contrary to popular belief Harry has a soul and it is worth trying
to save.

Proof, I'd need proof.

--
Skipper

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:07:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and have
probably said so in the
group, or at least implied same. In any case, you've undoubtedly got the
information in your
'rec.boats data base'.

I find Catholicism amazing, if only for the way it takes what could be a
half hour wedding ceremony and turns it into something else entirely. At the
last one, my wife and I heard "with Jesus", "in Jesus", "for Jesus", etc. so
many times that we really wondered exactly who was getting married - the
bride & groom, or one of them to Jesus, in absentia. And, we got some
terrific leg exercise. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up, sit
down....at least 1000 times.

The reception was held in the large meeting room of a local gun club, which
made for some interesting humor.

Normally, a wedding ceremony is part of a mass. It is added to what would normally be a mass. It may
have been what the Catholic Church refers to as a 'High Mass', which is quite a bit longer than a
regular mass (much more 'pomp and circumstance', although I don't mean that in a derogatory way).

The number of times you hear the name 'Jesus' is very dependent on the scripture readings and the
gospel reading for the particular day. In some of those the word is seldom used, in others it's used
quite frequently.

Catholicism *is* amazing. I'm not nearly as steadfast in my practice as I used to be, because the
Church and I disagree on a few points.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:47:29 -0500, Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

JohnH,

I am not Catholic, but I thought Christmas Mass was like a Jewish Temple
for the High Holidays. You had so many people showing up that they had
trouble sitting all of the people who wanted to attend. Many temples will
provide tickets to the active members of the temple. Do they ever limit
attendance to at the Church to active Catholics? Or do they allow the
dregs of society in?

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active, devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?

FWIW, I've never heard of a Catholic Church limiting attendance. There
are many "Catholics" who only attend church on those special occasions,
Christmas and Easter. To receive Communion one is expected to be a
practicing Catholic, but to attend the service, all are welcome.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:19:45 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:41:53 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about
my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

JohnH,

I am not Catholic, but I thought Christmas Mass was like a Jewish Temple
for
the High Holidays. You had so many people showing up that they had
trouble
sitting all of the people who wanted to attend. Many temples will provide
tickets to the active members of the temple. Do they ever limit
attendance
to at the Church to active Catholics? Or do they allow the dregs of
society
in?

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active, devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?


Most Catholic churches have a 'midnight mass' which is, as you say,
packed. There are also masses on
Christmas day, but the midnight mass seems to be the most popular. I've
never heard of tickets being
used, or any other attempt to limit attendance. The dregs are allowed.

If Harry is attending such a mass, then he surely has a motive. My guess
is that he was invited to
attend by someone to whom he feels a need to 'suck up'. Or, he just wants
to be able to disparage
the mass next time he's in the group. Or both.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



Both of you are appearing a bit foolish for putting down a man planning to
attend Christmas mass.

John, you may want to take your sig line to heart,. ;-)


When a man refers to 'your stinking religion' and then proclaims his plan to attend a solemn high
mass, he deserves to be put down.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:07:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the
group, or at least implied same. In any case, you've undoubtedly got the
information in your
'rec.boats data base'.

I find Catholicism amazing, if only for the way it takes what could be a
half hour wedding ceremony and turns it into something else entirely. At
the
last one, my wife and I heard "with Jesus", "in Jesus", "for Jesus", etc.
so
many times that we really wondered exactly who was getting married - the
bride & groom, or one of them to Jesus, in absentia. And, we got some
terrific leg exercise. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up,
sit
down....at least 1000 times.

The reception was held in the large meeting room of a local gun club,
which
made for some interesting humor.

Normally, a wedding ceremony is part of a mass. It is added to what would
normally be a mass. It may
have been what the Catholic Church refers to as a 'High Mass', which is
quite a bit longer than a
regular mass (much more 'pomp and circumstance', although I don't mean
that in a derogatory way).

The number of times you hear the name 'Jesus' is very dependent on the
scripture readings and the
gospel reading for the particular day. In some of those the word is seldom
used, in others it's used
quite frequently.

Catholicism *is* amazing. I'm not nearly as steadfast in my practice as I
used to be, because the
Church and I disagree on a few points.

Here's one of many reasons I avoid *all* religions, except fishing.
Somewhere, there is a secret society that teaches janitors or building
management people how to make certain rooms unliveable. It usually involves
cranking the heat up to about 90, but somehow doing it without moving the
air, so it's as stuffy as possible. Churches and synagogues are the worst in
this regard. It's insulting. I won't go, unless someone dies or gets
married.

Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to spread as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:39:48 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:07:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the
group, or at least implied same. In any case, you've undoubtedly got the
information in your
'rec.boats data base'.

I find Catholicism amazing, if only for the way it takes what could be a
half hour wedding ceremony and turns it into something else entirely. At
the
last one, my wife and I heard "with Jesus", "in Jesus", "for Jesus", etc.
so
many times that we really wondered exactly who was getting married - the
bride & groom, or one of them to Jesus, in absentia. And, we got some
terrific leg exercise. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up,
sit
down....at least 1000 times.

The reception was held in the large meeting room of a local gun club,
which
made for some interesting humor.

Normally, a wedding ceremony is part of a mass. It is added to what would
normally be a mass. It may
have been what the Catholic Church refers to as a 'High Mass', which is
quite a bit longer than a
regular mass (much more 'pomp and circumstance', although I don't mean
that in a derogatory way).

The number of times you hear the name 'Jesus' is very dependent on the
scripture readings and the
gospel reading for the particular day. In some of those the word is seldom
used, in others it's used
quite frequently.

Catholicism *is* amazing. I'm not nearly as steadfast in my practice as I
used to be, because the
Church and I disagree on a few points.

Here's one of many reasons I avoid *all* religions, except fishing.
Somewhere, there is a secret society that teaches janitors or building
management people how to make certain rooms unliveable. It usually involves
cranking the heat up to about 90, but somehow doing it without moving the
air, so it's as stuffy as possible. Churches and synagogues are the worst in
this regard. It's insulting. I won't go, unless someone dies or gets
married.

Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to spread as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


Putting 1000 people in a 4000 square foot room *will* raise the temperature, which was probably
originally set at 78 F so everyone would be 'comfortable'. I'm with you. During winter, the temp
should be set at 60F as most everyone will have their coats with them anyway.

Kids! They shove gum into the water fountains. Pocket knives are not allowed, so teachers can't dig
the gum out. (Been there, done that!)

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.

A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

JimH,

I was very serious about "tickets" for popular services. It is used by Jews
for High Holidays and I know many Protestant religions use them for special
services. While some Protestants services may actually sell tickets for a
Choral Service or Orchestra Service, I have seen where members just need to
ask for a certain number of tickets so people will know they can be seated
when they arrive. My question about limiting the Christmas Mass to
Catholics was serious. My comment about the "dregs of society" was not.
Well, maybe it was only half serious. ; )




" JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:41:53 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me
about my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

JohnH,

I am not Catholic, but I thought Christmas Mass was like a Jewish Temple
for
the High Holidays. You had so many people showing up that they had
trouble
sitting all of the people who wanted to attend. Many temples will
provide
tickets to the active members of the temple. Do they ever limit
attendance
to at the Church to active Catholics? Or do they allow the dregs of
society
in?

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active, devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?


Most Catholic churches have a 'midnight mass' which is, as you say,
packed. There are also masses on
Christmas day, but the midnight mass seems to be the most popular. I've
never heard of tickets being
used, or any other attempt to limit attendance. The dregs are allowed.

If Harry is attending such a mass, then he surely has a motive. My guess
is that he was invited to
attend by someone to whom he feels a need to 'suck up'. Or, he just wants
to be able to disparage
the mass next time he's in the group. Or both.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth
of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



Both of you are appearing a bit foolish for putting down a man planning to
attend Christmas mass.

John, you may want to take your sig line to heart,. ;-)

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Thunder,
I disagree with you and it appears that you are doing some spinning for
Harry. Harry considers himself a master Wordsmith. That sentence could
have been written without the word "stinking" and the would meant exactly
how you interpreted Harry's statement, i.e. it is important to keep church
and state separate. When Harry used the adjective "stinking" (an adjective
with definite negative connotation) he was editorializing either JohnH's
religion, or religion in general.




"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.

A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to spread as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


And then the ultimate graduation...

They claim to have owned exotic Italian motorcycles that never were
made, attend, and hear great concerts that never happened...

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.



Wow, I'm glad the US constitution doesn't garentee "restriction of
religion"

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

TS,
What kind of individual would do something that idiotic?


wrote in message
oups.com...
Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when
nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low
that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to spread
as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


And then the ultimate graduation...

They claim to have owned exotic Italian motorcycles that never were
made, attend, and hear great concerts that never happened...

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
JohnH,

I am not Catholic, but I thought Christmas Mass was like a Jewish Temple for
the High Holidays. You had so many people showing up that they had trouble
sitting all of the people who wanted to attend. Many temples will provide
tickets to the active members of the temple. Do they ever limit attendance
to at the Church to active Catholics? Or do they allow the dregs of society
in?

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active, devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?


First come...first served in my area.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...


Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and have
probably said so in the
group, or at least implied same. In any case, you've undoubtedly got the
information in your
'rec.boats data base'.


I find Catholicism amazing, if only for the way it takes what could be a
half hour wedding ceremony and turns it into something else entirely. At the
last one, my wife and I heard "with Jesus", "in Jesus", "for Jesus", etc. so
many times that we really wondered exactly who was getting married - the
bride & groom, or one of them to Jesus, in absentia. And, we got some
terrific leg exercise. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up, sit
down....at least 1000 times.

The reception was held in the large meeting room of a local gun club, which
made for some interesting humor.


You should have been around in the good old days when you had to kneel
at least a third of the mass...and when I was a kid there was no plushy
padding for your knees.

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302. Doug Kanter
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:07:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the
group, or at least implied same. In any case, you've undoubtedly got the
information in your
'rec.boats data base'.


I find Catholicism amazing, if only for the way it takes what could be a
half hour wedding ceremony and turns it into something else entirely. At
the
last one, my wife and I heard "with Jesus", "in Jesus", "for Jesus", etc.
so
many times that we really wondered exactly who was getting married - the
bride & groom, or one of them to Jesus, in absentia. And, we got some
terrific leg exercise. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up,
sit
down....at least 1000 times.


The reception was held in the large meeting room of a local gun club,
which
made for some interesting humor.


Normally, a wedding ceremony is part of a mass. It is added to what would
normally be a mass. It may
have been what the Catholic Church refers to as a 'High Mass', which is
quite a bit longer than a
regular mass (much more 'pomp and circumstance', although I don't mean
that in a derogatory way).


The number of times you hear the name 'Jesus' is very dependent on the
scripture readings and the
gospel reading for the particular day. In some of those the word is seldom
used, in others it's used
quite frequently.


Catholicism *is* amazing. I'm not nearly as steadfast in my practice as I
used to be, because the
Church and I disagree on a few points.



Here's one of many reasons I avoid *all* religions, except fishing.
Somewhere, there is a secret society that teaches janitors or building
management people how to make certain rooms unliveable. It usually
involves
cranking the heat up to about 90, but somehow doing it without moving
the
air, so it's as stuffy as possible. Churches and synagogues are the
worst in
this regard. It's insulting. I won't go, unless someone dies or gets
married.

Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when
nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low
that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to
spread as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent
at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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wrote in message
oups.com...
Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when
nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low
that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to spread
as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


And then the ultimate graduation...

They claim to have owned exotic Italian motorcycles that never were
made, attend, and hear great concerts that never happened...


I saw the Grateful Dead perform "Bolero" with Leonard Bernstein. I think.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Oh well. There goes a perfectly good gun discussion, right down the toilet.
:-(

Krause Proven Wrong
 

Doug Kanter wrote:

Oh well. There goes a perfectly good gun discussion, right down the toilet.
:-(

That's what happens when Krause is proven wrong. Face it, his position
was severely flawed. So much so, that his usual smoke 'n mirrors just
didn't mask his ignorance of the subject.

--
Skipper

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Doug,
I thought the gun discussion was a deviation from my favorite topic of Cops
shooting innocent individuals or was it Bush teaches cops to shot innocent
individuals. Who the heck knows, the tangents in these threads have their
own life.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Oh well. There goes a perfectly good gun discussion, right down the
toilet. :-(

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

You, as in anybody, are welcome to Catholic Mass anytime their is a Mass no
charge. And, if you get there early enough you can sit in the front row.
When the collection plate is passed you can put something in or you can just
pass it along to the next person. You should see how quickly the front row's
fill up when the Cardinal is presiding at Mass.


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JimH,

I was very serious about "tickets" for popular services. It is used by
Jews for High Holidays and I know many Protestant religions use them for
special services. While some Protestants services may actually sell
tickets for a Choral Service or Orchestra Service, I have seen where
members just need to ask for a certain number of tickets so people will
know they can be seated when they arrive. My question about limiting the
Christmas Mass to Catholics was serious. My comment about the "dregs of
society" was not. Well, maybe it was only half serious. ; )




" JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:41:53 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me
about my driveway leading up to
my manor. wrote:

JohnH,

I am not Catholic, but I thought Christmas Mass was like a Jewish Temple
for
the High Holidays. You had so many people showing up that they had
trouble
sitting all of the people who wanted to attend. Many temples will
provide
tickets to the active members of the temple. Do they ever limit
attendance
to at the Church to active Catholics? Or do they allow the dregs of
society
in?

I am just wondering how Harry is allowed to attend Christmas Mass. A
non
Catholic, who is not even a Christian. Does this mean an active,
devote
Catholic will have to stand up in the back of Church so Harry can attend
Mass?


Most Catholic churches have a 'midnight mass' which is, as you say,
packed. There are also masses on
Christmas day, but the midnight mass seems to be the most popular. I've
never heard of tickets being
used, or any other attempt to limit attendance. The dregs are allowed.

If Harry is attending such a mass, then he surely has a motive. My guess
is that he was invited to
attend by someone to whom he feels a need to 'suck up'. Or, he just
wants to be able to disparage
the mass next time he's in the group. Or both.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth
of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



Both of you are appearing a bit foolish for putting down a man planning
to attend Christmas mass.

John, you may want to take your sig line to heart,. ;-)

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...


Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have probably said so in the
group, or at least implied same. In any case, you've undoubtedly got the
information in your
'rec.boats data base'.


I find Catholicism amazing, if only for the way it takes what could be a
half hour wedding ceremony and turns it into something else entirely. At
the last one, my wife and I heard "with Jesus", "in Jesus", "for Jesus",
etc. so many times that we really wondered exactly who was getting
married - the bride & groom, or one of them to Jesus, in absentia. And,
we got some terrific leg exercise. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit
down, stand up, sit down....at least 1000 times.

The reception was held in the large meeting room of a local gun club,
which made for some interesting humor.
You should have been around in the good old days when you had to kneel at
least a third of the mass...and when I was a kid there was no plushy
padding for your knees.

You got more of a workout at mass than you did at the gym.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when
nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low
that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to spread
as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


And then the ultimate graduation...

They claim to have owned exotic Italian motorcycles that never were
made, attend, and hear great concerts that never happened...


You forgot "claim degrees earned that were never offered by the institution"

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Don't forget the multiple universities for the same undergraduate degree.

I think everything Kevin learned about UseNet he learned from Harry.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when
nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so low
that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to
spread
as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent
at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


And then the ultimate graduation...

They claim to have owned exotic Italian motorcycles that never were
made, attend, and hear great concerts that never happened...


You forgot "claim degrees earned that were never offered by the
institution"

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry,
I am curious, why do you hang out here? You seem intent on name calling,
excessive use of profanity and belittling others? Did I miss anything?



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
P Fritz wrote:

You forgot "claim degrees earned that were never offered by the
institution"

Is there any reason why you post here, Fritz, other than to behave like a
horse's ass? You'e not here to discuss anything relating to boating, or
any other subject of interest. Why don't you hang out instead in the
wife-beating newsgroups, where you belong?

--
The sun never sets on what Bush has soiled.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:28 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.

A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

We disagree.

He could more easily have said, "keep religion out of my state."

The 'your' in his response referred to me.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:01:51 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

You forgot "claim degrees earned that were never offered by the institution"

Is there any reason why you post here, Fritz, other than to behave like
a horse's ass? You'e not here to discuss anything relating to boating,
or any other subject of interest. Why don't you hang out instead in the
wife-beating newsgroups, where you belong?


Is there any reason why you post here, Harry, other than to behave like
a horse's ass? You'e not here to discuss anything relating to boating,
or any other subject of interest. Why don't you hang out instead in the
wife-beating newsgroups, where you belong?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

You have to give kevin a break, he is easliy confused, just like harry
confusing his bath tub toy for a 36 ft lobsta boat.


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Don't forget the multiple universities for the same undergraduate degree.

I think everything Kevin learned about UseNet he learned from Harry.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Incidentally, the same mutants are hired by schools. At night, when
nobody's
there, they come and adjust the water fountains so the stream is so
low
that
you have to touch the metal in order to get water. The goal is to
spread
as
much disease as possible. If these mutants turn out to be incompetent
at
this task, they're demoted and become school bus drivers.


And then the ultimate graduation...

They claim to have owned exotic Italian motorcycles that never were
made, attend, and hear great concerts that never happened...


You forgot "claim degrees earned that were never offered by the
institution"

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:28 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.

A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

PS. If his comment was meant to say something different, he could have easily apologized. He's had
many opportunities.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

He has nine reasons

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements
and talents, expects to
be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should
associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings
and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or
her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Harry,
I am curious, why do you hang out here? You seem intent on name calling,
excessive use of profanity and belittling others? Did I miss anything?



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
P Fritz wrote:

You forgot "claim degrees earned that were never offered by the
institution"

Is there any reason why you post here, Fritz, other than to behave like
a
horse's ass? You'e not here to discuss anything relating to boating, or
any other subject of interest. Why don't you hang out instead in the
wife-beating newsgroups, where you belong?

--
The sun never sets on what Bush has soiled.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:28 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.

A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

PS. If his comment was meant to say something different, he could have
easily apologized. He's had
many opportunities.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



Don't you dare ask for an apology here or Harry will accuse you of whining.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:22:50 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:28 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.

Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.

A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

PS. If his comment was meant to say something different, he could have
easily apologized. He's had
many opportunities.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.



Don't you dare ask for an apology here or Harry will accuse you of whining.

Because of #5, I'd never ask Harry for an apology.

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry,
Is it better that you called everyone religion "stinking" versus just
JohnH's Catholic faith?

As JonnH asked you wouldn't it make more sense to say "Keep your religion
out my faith". I would think a Ivy League educated individual like yourself
would understand the significance of calling anyone's religion "stinking".


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:28 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.
Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and
have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.
A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase
the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

We disagree.

He could more easily have said, "keep religion out of my state."

The 'your' in his response referred to me.

--
John H


You're so vain, you thought that post was about you.

The "your" is universal, not personal. I've used that expression for
years.

Religious beliefs and practices, so long as they aren't harmful, are not
my concern if they are kept in houses of worship, homes, religion-related
schools, et cetera. As soon as they intrude into the common weal, and
start to try to force others to their way of thinking, they stink.






--
SUPPORT BUSH'S ENEMIES BUY CITGO GAS.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:01:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:28 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:00:15 -0500, John H. wrote:

Your words, not mine. I've never used that phrase to refer to the
Catholic church.


\
George W. Bush: American Nero.
Bull****! You said, "...your stinking religion..." I am Catholic, and have
probably said so in the group, or at least implied same. In any case,
you've undoubtedly got the information in your 'rec.boats data base'.
A little spinning there, aren't you John? When Harry used that phrase the
meaning was clear. It was a statement on the separation of church and
state, not a slight on any religion.

The context:

As I have oft posted: this is America; keep your stinking religion out
of my state. What you do in your home or in your church or in your
church-related schools is the business of you and your co-religionists,
but please don't try to shovel those activities or beliefs onto the rest
of us through governmental action.

We disagree.

He could more easily have said, "keep religion out of my state."

The 'your' in his response referred to me.

--
John H


You're so vain, you thought that post was about you.

The "your" is universal, not personal. I've used that expression for years.

Religious beliefs and practices, so long as they aren't harmful, are not
my concern if they are kept in houses of worship, homes,
religion-related schools, et cetera. As soon as they intrude into the
common weal, and start to try to force others to their way of thinking,
they stink.

When you respond to my post, and you say 'your' in the response, we know to whom you refer.

Is the 'You're' above a 'universal' you're? Are you referring to everyone, instead of me personally?

There is a saying somewhere about a Christmas goose being full of something. I don't remember
exactly, but I'm thinking it applies to you very well.

Tap, tap, tap.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John, could you quote the chapter and verse in your bible that says Jesus
Christ was born in December?
Thanks.....

Jim C.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:41:25 -0500, "Jim Carter" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John, could you quote the chapter and verse in your bible that says Jesus
Christ was born in December?
Thanks.....

Jim C.


Can you quote the chapter in your history book that says Martin Luther King, Jr. was born on the
third Monday in January?

No, I probably could not find December 25th mentioned anywhere in the Bible. I won't even look.

So what?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:57:11 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John, could you quote the chapter and verse in your bible that says Jesus
Christ was born in December?
Thanks.....

Jim C.



I'd like to see the proof that the pious Jewish fella Herring worships
is who Herring claims, and that this fella he worships thought it would
be a good idea for a bunch of guys a few hundred years after his death
to invent a religion based upon him.

Harry, why not show this post to the celebrant at the solemn high mass you will be attending.

I've never been able to understand how anyone could be so extremely disrespectful of another's
religion, regardless of what it is.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:28:45 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:57:11 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John, could you quote the chapter and verse in your bible that says Jesus
Christ was born in December?
Thanks.....

Jim C.


I'd like to see the proof that the pious Jewish fella Herring worships
is who Herring claims, and that this fella he worships thought it would
be a good idea for a bunch of guys a few hundred years after his death
to invent a religion based upon him.

Harry, why not show this post to the celebrant at the solemn high mass you will be attending.

I've never been able to understand how anyone could be so extremely disrespectful of another's
religion, regardless of what it is.


I'm not at all disrespectful. If you are a Christian, you accept Jesus
as your saviour on faith alone. There's no "proof," per se. And it is an
absolute fact that the religion was not a creation of that Jesus, but of
men that lived hundreds of years later.

Which is neither here or there, nor good or bad. It just is.

Harry, you've no idea *what* you are.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:41:25 -0500, "Jim Carter"
wrote:
John, could you quote the chapter and verse in your bible that says Jesus
Christ was born in December?
Thanks.....
Jim C.
Can you quote the chapter in your history book that says Martin Luther
King, Jr. was born on the
third Monday in January?
No, I probably could not find December 25th mentioned anywhere in the
Bible. I won't even look.
So what?
John H
Well John H. The reason that I am asking you if you could quote the chapter
and verse in your bible that says Jesus Christ was born in December is
because he wasn't born in December at all. Bible historians state that
Jesus was born in the fall of the year, not in winter. That, you will find
in your Bible. Go look it up. You are the Christian, I am not.
Therefore you should know what your bible says with regards to the birthdate
of your Jesus Christ. You must be celebrating on the wrong day!

My history books tell me that Martin Luther King Jr., was born on the the
15th of January. What does that have to do with Christmas? I don't
celebrate his birthday either.

Jim C.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

JimC,
Why is the fact that Dec. 25th is not the actual birthday of JC matter? I
don't think anyone really thinks 12/25 is his birthday, they use that annual
date to celebrate his birth. It is very common among parents who adopted
children from overseas, to designate a date to celebrate the child's
birthday. They know it is not the actual date, but it allows them to
celebrate their child's birthday. Why is this so hard to understand?



"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:41:25 -0500, "Jim Carter"
wrote:
John, could you quote the chapter and verse in your bible that says
Jesus
Christ was born in December?
Thanks.....
Jim C.
Can you quote the chapter in your history book that says Martin Luther
King, Jr. was born on the
third Monday in January?
No, I probably could not find December 25th mentioned anywhere in the
Bible. I won't even look.
So what?
John H
Well John H. The reason that I am asking you if you could quote the
chapter
and verse in your bible that says Jesus Christ was born in December is
because he wasn't born in December at all. Bible historians state that
Jesus was born in the fall of the year, not in winter. That, you will
find
in your Bible. Go look it up. You are the Christian, I am not.
Therefore you should know what your bible says with regards to the
birthdate
of your Jesus Christ. You must be celebrating on the wrong day!

My history books tell me that Martin Luther King Jr., was born on the the
15th of January. What does that have to do with Christmas? I don't
celebrate his birthday either.

Jim C.