On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:01:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
He was paying
for trailer storage, but was slipping the hands a few bucks to leave his boat 'stored' on a wash
rack.

Absolute bullship. A complete, total fabrication on your part. I tipped
the lift guy $20 each time, but I've always done there for yard help.

I'd sooner believe "John H." than you who was just caught in ANOTHER
LIE!

I also find great fault in your statement of offering anyone a $20 tip
when you don't even have the decency and courtesy to offer positive
input into free public discussion forums such as this one. The
majority of your posts consist of malicious comments and narrow-minded
biased opinion with a preeminent focus upon denigrating other
individuals. Your words are worthless and that fact imparts a similar
perception of your financial affairs as well.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:55:07 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

Take your own advice and try being a lady.

She is very much the lady, pal.

"pal"?? Don't call me that!

Are you twelve? If you want to respond, try to post something relevant.
This is childish and moronic.

And very KKKrause-like!

On 15 Dec 2005 20:20:03 -0800, wrote:


Hoodoo wrote:
I'm top-posting here to leave the evidential data below in reverse
chronological order.

In response to KKKrause's denigrating commentary of,
-------
"Gotta love the way righties jump to conclusions, though. Simple
little minds, no capabilities of abstract thinking. D'oh. A trait
shared by so many of his extremist buddies here.",
-------
I find exquisite pleasure in revealing verifiable evidence that
herr e. KKKrause HAS BEEN CAUGHT LYING... AGAIN!

herr e. KKKrause has posted numerous times in this newsgroup
rec.boats and others [alt.obituaries, etc.] that he has placed me
in his kill-file(s), yet, despite that proclamation, he chose to
retransmit into this newsgroup - VERBATIM! - the news article
regarding the "hanging Santa" that I posted two hours (to the minute)
earlier in the alt-obituaries newsgroup.

What is even more revealing is that no one posted a follow-up reply
to my original message until THREE HOURS AFTER herr e. KKKrause
retransmitted the article verbatim into this newsgroup.

How could herr e. KKKrause, who has stated numerous times that he has
me kill-filed, view a usenet message that I posted, FIVE HOURS
before someone else posted a public reply to it in follow-up???!!!!

The evidence below presented in reverse chronological order shows:

1) KKKrause belittling various people (as usual) by stating they have
"Simple little minds";

2) the basic headers for the first reply in alt.oituaries posted
SEVEN HOURS AFTER I transmitted the article into alt.obituaries;

3) the basic headers for KKKrause's message which contained the
retransmitted article TWO HOURS after I initially transmitted the
article; and,

4) the original message and basic headers exactly as I posted it into
alt.obituaries TWO HOURS PRIOR to KKKrause's verbatim retransmission
of it into this newsgroup rec.boats.

KKKrause, you really are a despicable, LYING, SIMPLE MINDED pile of
excrement!!!!

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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:53:10 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Holiday "Bizarity"
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:53:10 -0500
Message-ID:

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:14 +0000, Bill McKee wrote:

And this says immense things about you. Post with no comment, and
therefore you support the person. Even if you hate the Christmas /
Holiday / shopping you have to be sick person to put up a display like
this. Maybe you ought to ask Dr. Dr. wife why you are sick.

thunder wrote:
In this situation, I'd be sympathetic to the children's eyes, but I
definitely see the humor in it. While high suicide rates at Christmas are
a myth, many adults find the season quite stressful.
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/suicide.asp


Apparently Old McKee "missed" the subject line I gave to the article
about the "well-hung" Santa. I think I called the piece "Bizzarity" or
somesuch. Seemed sufficient commentary to me.

Gotta love the way righties jump to conclusions, though. Simple little
minds, no capabilities of abstract thinking. D'oh. A trait shared by so
many of his extremist buddies here.

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Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Santa Claus in Miami Beach! - bound and blindfolded,
hanging from a noose
Message-ID:
References:
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:46:44 -0800

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From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: OT: Holiday "Bizarity"
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:24:20 -0500
Message-ID:

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From: Hoodoo
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Santa Claus in Miami Beach! - bound and blindfolded, hanging
from a noose
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:23:01 -0600
Message-ID:

Blindfolded Santa Hanging From Noose At Home Upsets Neighborhood

December 8, 2005
http://www.local6.com/news/5491296/detail.html

A large blindfolded Santa hanging from a noose from a high tree in a
man's yard has angered homeowners in a Florida neighborhood, according
to a Local 6 News report.

The Santa doll, which neighborhood children can easily see, was put up
by homeowner Ron Stroia at his home located on 555 West 50th Street in
Miami Beach, the report said.

"It's just wrong, I mean who would want their children to see this,
and it reminds adults of lynching," neighbor Estelle Farnsworth said.
"It's just nasty, there is no spirit of Christmas in this."

The Santa also has his hands and legs bound by some type of wire.

"Now the kids are sad with that, you know, because they say it's not
fair with Santa," neighbor Tanira Giacian said. "Santa should be
around bringing their gifts, looking for the gifts, and not hanging on
a tree. They're just kind of scared of that."

Since the display was put in the tree, neighbors have called police to
get it removed, but officers said there is nothing they can do because
the homeowner is protected under the First Amendment, Local 6 News
reported.

Stroia would not talk with reporters, but did say by telephone that
it's his right to display the Santa whether neighbors like it or not.

"This has really caused a big stir in the neighborhood, this is just
cruel," Farnsworth said.


On the webpage:

SLIDESHOW: More Images From Story
VIDEO: Video Of Santa Hanging From Noose



'Zat you, MadCow?

Nope. It is someone who has seen enough, and been the target, of
KKKrause's lying, deceitful and malicious bull**** posted to
newsgroups and is doing something to address the problem. He
apparently can't be shamed into changing his wayward ways for the
better, but, I can at least inform his audience about the extent to
which he is despicable and devoid of character.

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:23:37 -0500, Netsock wrote:

Krause is a proven liar...and everybody knows this.

Precisely! And I wanted to be sure that other folks knew of his latest
outright lie that I caught him at.

He has been offered cash for his favorite charity in exchange for mere
proof of some of his claims. He has refused to do thus far...because
its plain to see, that he cant.

Just kill fill the lifeless boatless twit, and move on. That moron
cant see the woods because of the trees, and that's truly how stupid
he is.

I'd like to killfile him but I will not allow him to continue
spreading false and malicious information about me. I also cannot in
good conscience allow him to continue belittling numerous other people
without fighting back for those who will not do so themselves.

When KKKrause ceases his malicious and denigrating internet activity I
will no longer have a reason to retaliate against him and his ongoing
abuse.

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:34:40 +1100, K Smith wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:52:29 +1100, K Smith wrote:



John H. wrote:


On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:46:13 -0600, Hoodoo wrote:




I'm top-posting here to leave the evidential data below in reverse
chronological order.

In response to KKKrause's denigrating commentary of,
-------
"Gotta love the way righties jump to conclusions, though. Simple
little minds, no capabilities of abstract thinking. D'oh. A trait
shared by so many of his extremist buddies here.",
-------
I find exquisite pleasure in revealing verifiable evidence that
herr e. KKKrause HAS BEEN CAUGHT LYING... AGAIN!



Although what you say may be true, some of us are trying to change the tone of the rec.boats group.
We are trying to be more understanding of the traits of others and not 'pile on' when something
untoward happens. So, don't be surprised if you don't get a huge reaction from your announcement.


--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
...and your New Year even Better!

Give it up John; Krause is just a lying turd & that's an insult to turds.

He & his mates including the spam queen chuckles are just dishonest
liars & you trying to befriend them endlessly is demeaning to you &
mankind in general.


Bullies do it because in their view it works & you kowtowing just helps
them, come on be a man.

K


Karen, do you really think I'm kowtowing to him? Damn, he thinks I'm treating him like poop. I'm
trying hard to be other than smarmy, swarmy, snarky, unctuous, or pusilanimous. It's hard not being
at least *one* of them.

John I accept your motives a good but it's all been tried too many times
now, you correctly try to lift the tone then the idiots just take
advantage of more on topic stuff to attack with their political or other
crap. Well of course Tom will still be here just "believing" Ficht E-Tec
works:-) (sorry I giggle just thinking about it)


I've been trying to get Harold to agree to a New Year's resolution which would put an end to the
name-calling, piling-on, and all those behaviors listed above (which are most despicable, I
understand) although I'm not sure what some of them are.

Again John I have to tell you you've been taken in by a trickster he
doesn't "own" a boat!!! never has done not one of his lies about boat
ownerships are true. He goes to extraordinary lengths to convince people
he is a boater when he just isn't. Yes Yes I know you "believe" because
he has access to a corp or charter boat he does indeed "own" it; he does
not. I suspect given his priors that the latest lie is a cover for more
defrauding of union funds so the staff of the people entrusted with hard
workers' money can squander it.


He refuses to partake. I don't know why, other than it would reduce the number of his posts by about
97%.
--

I know why!!! he's not a boater his actual paid job is to spruik for the
unions!!! have you not read his history?? Again; he actually works for a
union always has done, no boat, no education, no experience in any real
job, no "Dr Dr" wife, no brought up in a boat dealership, no nothing
he's just another piece of union grub, the same grubs that have all on
their own destroyed the US manufacturing base.

Anyway you hold your views & I hold mine, good luck with your attempt to
help the NG but ......................


K


My gosh. I thought my reputation was better than that. Honestly, Karen, you credit me with a
gullibility I don't own.

Unless he sold his Parker, he does own one boat that I'm sure of. I've met and talked to the man who
sold it to him, and talked to the marina where he stored it (same marina that I use). He was paying
for trailer storage, but was slipping the hands a few bucks to leave his boat 'stored' on a wash
rack. This, of course, inconvenienced those of us who *used* the wash rack for its intended purpose.
Apparently some complaints were made to management, and his boat got put back in the trailer park.
Shortly thereafter, he moved it to a much cheaper trailer park.


Absolutely none of which says he "owns" a boat. He is a lackey for the
the union fund & this is why I suggest it's another ripoff of real
workers' money.


It hurts my soul to see you say I've been taken in by a trickster.

I'm even asking him what information he wants about me!

Well be careful those before you who have allowed him even seemingly
innocent info have regretted it muchly, I hope you don't.

K


--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
...and your New Year even Better!

"Narcissists are (a) extremely sensitive to personal criticism and (b)
extremely critical of other people"

"Smithers" Yes, Smithers is not my real name. wrote in message
. ..
Harry,
Have you finished your Christmas Shopping?

Do you think you might get some nice presents for your Lobster Boat?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
K Smith wrote:
snip...
He & his mates including the spam queen chuckles are just dishonest
liars & you trying to befriend them endlessly is demeaning to you &
mankind in general.


Bullies do it because in their view it works & you kowtowing just
helps
them, come on be a man.

K

Take your own advice and try being a lady.


That would require extensive surgery for Karen of Oz.

--
Extraordinary rendition: Outsourcing torture.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:15:35 -0600, Hoodoo wrote:

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:01:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
He was paying
for trailer storage, but was slipping the hands a few bucks to leave his boat 'stored' on a wash
rack.

Absolute bullship. A complete, total fabrication on your part. I tipped
the lift guy $20 each time, but I've always done there for yard help.

I'd sooner believe "John H." than you

I would *hope* so!


ho was just caught in ANOTHER
LIE!

I also find great fault in your statement of offering anyone a $20 tip
when you don't even have the decency and courtesy to offer positive
input into free public discussion forums such as this one. The
majority of your posts consist of malicious comments and narrow-minded
biased opinion with a preeminent focus upon denigrating other
individuals. Your words are worthless and that fact imparts a similar
perception of your financial affairs as well.


--
John Herring
May your Christmas be Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:13:17 +1100, K Smith wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:34:40 +1100, K Smith wrote:
K


My gosh. I thought my reputation was better than that. Honestly, Karen, you credit me with a
gullibility I don't own.

Unless he sold his Parker, he does own one boat that I'm sure of. I've met and talked to the man who
sold it to him, and talked to the marina where he stored it (same marina that I use). He was paying
for trailer storage, but was slipping the hands a few bucks to leave his boat 'stored' on a wash
rack. This, of course, inconvenienced those of us who *used* the wash rack for its intended purpose.
Apparently some complaints were made to management, and his boat got put back in the trailer park.
Shortly thereafter, he moved it to a much cheaper trailer park.


Absolutely none of which says he "owns" a boat. He is a lackey for the
the union fund & this is why I suggest it's another ripoff of real
workers' money.


It hurts my soul to see you say I've been taken in by a trickster.

I'm even asking him what information he wants about me!

Well be careful those before you who have allowed him even seemingly
innocent info have regretted it muchly, I hope you don't.

K

Well, actually, that's kind of an 'in' thing, asking Harry what personal information he wants.
--
John Herring
May your Christmas be Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!

Dan Krueger wrote:
Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Don White wrote:


Take your own advice and try being a lady.




She is very much the lady, pal.

--
Skipper



"pal"?? Don't call me that!


Are you twelve? If you want to respond, try to post something relevant.
This is childish and moronic.

As is your name calling...moron!

Don,
You up to some sailing today?