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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
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Kevin,

Most handhelds will transmit power is between the ranges of 1 to 5 watts,
the 1 wattage for short distances and 5 watts longer distances. Most
Fixed mount VHF will transmit using at 25 watts of power, with a setting
for low wattage 1 - 5 watts for short distance broadcasting.

My understand is the Coast Guard will actually broadcast at a much
stronger wattage than 25 watts and will have a tall antenna placed on the
tallest land mass or building available. I have always heard that the low
wattage handhelds will be able to receive the Coast Guard broadcast
without any problems, but the Coast Guard will not be able to receive the
low wattage units for anywhere near the distance of the higher wattage
units.

Kevin, if your theory is correct, why do the fixed mounted units use 25
watts, if the 5 watts are adequate to insure an adequate broadcast than
can be received from the maximum distance of the LOS based upon the
broadcasting and receiving antennas? If the 5 watts will travel just as
far as the 25 watt broadcast? Why doesn't the 1 watt broadcast travel
just as far as the 5 watt broadcast?

I am always willing to learn, so help me understand the theory of low
wattage transmission verses higher wattage transmissions.




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Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
With the low wattage output of a handheld you will not be able to come
close
to 30 nm.
even with an external antenna.


See Bill's reply, he's right.




The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?


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Lord Reginald Smithers
 
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Bill,
The signal strength still needs to be strong enough for the CG to receive
the signal. Is it your theory that the CG can receive the 1 watt
transmission just as strong as the 25 watt transmission because they have
larger antennas and better receivers?




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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
...
Kevin,

Most handhelds will transmit power is between the ranges of 1 to 5 watts,
the 1 wattage for short distances and 5 watts longer distances. Most
Fixed mount VHF will transmit using at 25 watts of power, with a setting
for low wattage 1 - 5 watts for short distance broadcasting.

My understand is the Coast Guard will actually broadcast at a much
stronger wattage than 25 watts and will have a tall antenna placed on the
tallest land mass or building available. I have always heard that the
low wattage handhelds will be able to receive the Coast Guard broadcast
without any problems, but the Coast Guard will not be able to receive the
low wattage units for anywhere near the distance of the higher wattage
units.

Kevin, if your theory is correct, why do the fixed mounted units use 25
watts, if the 5 watts are adequate to insure an adequate broadcast than
can be received from the maximum distance of the LOS based upon the
broadcasting and receiving antennas? If the 5 watts will travel just as
far as the 25 watt broadcast? Why doesn't the 1 watt broadcast travel
just as far as the 5 watt broadcast?

I am always willing to learn, so help me understand the theory of low
wattage transmission verses higher wattage transmissions.




wrote in message
oups.com...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
With the low wattage output of a handheld you will not be able to come
close
to 30 nm.
even with an external antenna.


See Bill's reply, he's right.




The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?




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I was told by my friend, an electrical engineer with NASA, that the CG could
pick up the transmission on my 5w handheld most everywhere on Lake Erie.


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Bill,
The signal strength still needs to be strong enough for the CG to receive
the signal. Is it your theory that the CG can receive the 1 watt
transmission just as strong as the 25 watt transmission because they have
larger antennas and better receivers?




"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
...
Kevin,

Most handhelds will transmit power is between the ranges of 1 to 5
watts,
the 1 wattage for short distances and 5 watts longer distances. Most
Fixed mount VHF will transmit using at 25 watts of power, with a setting
for low wattage 1 - 5 watts for short distance broadcasting.

My understand is the Coast Guard will actually broadcast at a much
stronger wattage than 25 watts and will have a tall antenna placed on
the
tallest land mass or building available. I have always heard that the
low wattage handhelds will be able to receive the Coast Guard broadcast
without any problems, but the Coast Guard will not be able to receive
the
low wattage units for anywhere near the distance of the higher wattage
units.

Kevin, if your theory is correct, why do the fixed mounted units use 25
watts, if the 5 watts are adequate to insure an adequate broadcast than
can be received from the maximum distance of the LOS based upon the
broadcasting and receiving antennas? If the 5 watts will travel just as
far as the 25 watt broadcast? Why doesn't the 1 watt broadcast travel
just as far as the 5 watt broadcast?

I am always willing to learn, so help me understand the theory of low
wattage transmission verses higher wattage transmissions.




wrote in message
oups.com...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
With the low wattage output of a handheld you will not be able to come
close
to 30 nm.
even with an external antenna.


See Bill's reply, he's right.




The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?






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No, but bigger, better antennas help. How much power does a satellite
downlink use?

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Bill,
The signal strength still needs to be strong enough for the CG to receive
the signal. Is it your theory that the CG can receive the 1 watt
transmission just as strong as the 25 watt transmission because they have
larger antennas and better receivers?




"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor. wrote in message
...
Kevin,

Most handhelds will transmit power is between the ranges of 1 to 5
watts,
the 1 wattage for short distances and 5 watts longer distances. Most
Fixed mount VHF will transmit using at 25 watts of power, with a setting
for low wattage 1 - 5 watts for short distance broadcasting.

My understand is the Coast Guard will actually broadcast at a much
stronger wattage than 25 watts and will have a tall antenna placed on
the
tallest land mass or building available. I have always heard that the
low wattage handhelds will be able to receive the Coast Guard broadcast
without any problems, but the Coast Guard will not be able to receive
the
low wattage units for anywhere near the distance of the higher wattage
units.

Kevin, if your theory is correct, why do the fixed mounted units use 25
watts, if the 5 watts are adequate to insure an adequate broadcast than
can be received from the maximum distance of the LOS based upon the
broadcasting and receiving antennas? If the 5 watts will travel just as
far as the 25 watt broadcast? Why doesn't the 1 watt broadcast travel
just as far as the 5 watt broadcast?

I am always willing to learn, so help me understand the theory of low
wattage transmission verses higher wattage transmissions.




wrote in message
oups.com...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
With the low wattage output of a handheld you will not be able to come
close
to 30 nm.
even with an external antenna.


See Bill's reply, he's right.




The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?






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Bill McKee wrote:

The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?


A friend of my brother's who lives close to the PA-NY border built a
Beverage Antenna on his hill, and can receive CG transmissions from Key
West, FL!!



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Kevin,
The question is can he talk to the Key West CG?


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Bill McKee wrote:

The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?


A friend of my brother's who lives close to the PA-NY border built a
Beverage Antenna on his hill, and can receive CG transmissions from Key
West, FL!!



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Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
The question is can he talk to the Key West CG?

I'm not Kevin, idiot.

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Kevin,
Since the frequency coverage of VHF is line of sight, was it a very very
tall hill?


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Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
The question is can he talk to the Key West CG?

I'm not Kevin, idiot.



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Bill McKee wrote:

The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?


A friend of my brother's who lives close to the PA-NY border built a
Beverage Antenna on his hill, and can receive CG transmissions from Key
West, FL!!


Is that one of those Southern things. Where they stack the beer cans into a
tower? Then hook up the antenna leads to it? Cool.


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Bill McKee wrote:
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Bill McKee wrote:

The CG has a higher antenna and better receivers?


A friend of my brother's who lives close to the PA-NY border built a
Beverage Antenna on his hill, and can receive CG transmissions from Key
West, FL!!


Is that one of those Southern things. Where they stack the beer cans into a
tower? Then hook up the antenna leads to it? Cool.


Ah, an ALLEGED electrical engineer (handyman?) and he doesn't know what
a Beverage antenna is.



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