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John H. December 6th 05 10:47 PM

If you fish at all...
 
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:20 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:46:26 GMT, Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.


Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head.
What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which is
bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on
their monetary value?


I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just
figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his
status to just another right-wing ass?


I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet.


Don. You might not want to mention the concept of proof to Harold.

--
John H


What's your favorite proof, Herring? 86?




Oprah Winfrey for President!


Used to be, if I couldn't find 150!

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Lord Reginald Smithers December 6th 05 10:58 PM

If you fish at all...
 
JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and you name came to
mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list.
Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin
and Harry.


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
Hey Don, Harry, Kevin, jps, bb, Jim Carter and Chuck.

opps, there is no room for me in the club. So sorry. ; )

Lord Smithers, why do you have me included with those other persons? I
don't know any of them. I do not live on the East Coast. I am not an
American. I do not live on the West Coast either! Please let me know
why.
Thanks
Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield





Lord Reginald Smithers December 6th 05 11:00 PM

If you fish at all...
 
JohnH,
In college we used to have Golden Grain parties, grape juice, oranges,
lemons and limes and 190 proof grain alcohol. Tasted like a fruit drink.


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:20 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:46:26 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.


Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head.
What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which
is
bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on
their monetary value?


I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just
figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his
status to just another right-wing ass?


I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet.

Don. You might not want to mention the concept of proof to Harold.

--
John H


What's your favorite proof, Herring? 86?




Oprah Winfrey for President!


Used to be, if I couldn't find 150!

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.




P Fritz December 6th 05 11:06 PM

If you fish at all...
 
Grain alcohol always made for a cheap party.

We used to make "rocket fuel" a similar concoction, adding lime sherbert
(to give it a creamier feel, and dry ice to make it bubble and fog :-)
And it was appropriate for all those damn engineering majors.


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
JohnH,
In college we used to have Golden Grain parties, grape juice, oranges,
lemons and limes and 190 proof grain alcohol. Tasted like a fruit drink.


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:20 -0500, Harry Krause


wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:46:26 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.


Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head.
What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which
is
bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on
their monetary value?


I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just
figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his
status to just another right-wing ass?


I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet.

Don. You might not want to mention the concept of proof to Harold.

--
John H

What's your favorite proof, Herring? 86?




Oprah Winfrey for President!


Used to be, if I couldn't find 150!

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth

of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.






Dan Krueger December 7th 05 12:50 AM

If you fish at all...
 
wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:22:27 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me
about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote:



Anytime you have Harry cut and pasting 10 - 20 OT political articles a
day, you will not see any change in rec.boats. Harry doesn't want to see
it change, he has said his purpose for coming to rec.boats is to harass
the conservatrash.


===============================

I've come around to the point of view that Harry is incorrigible and
will never change. On the other hand, if everyone else ignored his OT
and refused to spar with him, the fun would be out of his game and the
news group might, with a little peer pressure, resume a state of
normalacy.

Lead by example.


The Gang of Seven constantly complains about Harry...but who's forever
poking & provoking him?
The very same group.
If Harry left here they wouldn't know what to do...since half of them
don't boat.



Thanks for the sermon on the pulpit Pastor Don.



Jim, are you going to explain why when YOU preach to others, it's okay,
but if Don makes ONE comment, you're all over him?
Are you going to explain why when you demean and denigrate others, it's
okay, but when someone not in your circle jerk club do it, it's bad?
Are you going to explain why when someone uses profanity, you chastise
them, but when someone in your right wing circle jerk does it, it's
okay?


Don's posts are almost exclusively replies to Jim. Demeaning and
denigrating is your lame claim to fame. Good thing you can't get to a
computer outside of 9-5, M-F, excluding holidays.

Dan Krueger December 7th 05 12:55 AM

If you fish at all...
 
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.



I wasn't aware you had a boat, Fritz. Do you have a bathtub, too?



If he does have a bathtub...I wish he'd use it before coming here!


That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND" button,
but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic and sad.

Dan Krueger December 7th 05 12:58 AM

If you fish at all...
 
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.



Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head.
What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which
is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on
their monetary value?





I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just
figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his
status to just another right-wing ass?


I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet.


"Proved"? Wasn't on the GED test I guess...

Better ask mommy for 30 grand, get a nice Mustang and go back to "skool".

Don White December 7th 05 01:27 AM

If you fish at all...
 
P Fritz wrote:



It is simply amazing how donny will go to such great lengths to keep his
nose wedged up harry's ass.....I guess he is afraid kevin might slip in
there and take his place.

And once again we see the hypocricy of the typical liebral



My my. I'm suprised JohnH doesn't jump in here and advise you're
** insert bad word ** me with that language.
How about JimH...surely this rates as *vulgar*.

Jim Carter December 7th 05 01:34 AM

If you fish at all...
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came

to
mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list.
Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as

Kevin

Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada.

Thanks]
Jim C.



Don White December 7th 05 01:41 AM

If you fish at all...
 
Dan Krueger wrote:

That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND" button,
but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic and sad.



So ...since you only find it "lame"...am I to believe you haven't
graduated from High School?
That does answer some questions.

Don White December 7th 05 01:46 AM

If you fish at all...
 
Jim Carter wrote:
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...

JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came


to

mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list.
Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as


Kevin

Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada.

Thanks]
Jim C.


Jim...think Harper will get anywhere in Ontario?
Wonder if you guys should have elected Peter MacKay as your leader.

Jim Carter December 7th 05 01:49 AM

If you fish at all...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim...think Harper will get anywhere in Ontario?
Wonder if you guys should have elected Peter MacKay as your leader.


Hi Don.

The best person we had switched parties. It was Belinda Stronach. A
terrific Lady!

In Ontario, I think the Liberals will win most of the seats in parliament.
In my opinion Harper is an idiot. Peter is not far behind. If things in
the party get any worse, I may change sides! ;-) The NDP is full of
despots and they don't have a chance.

Jim C.



Terry Spragg December 7th 05 02:06 AM

If you fish at all...
 
John H. wrote:


MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you peace, fellowship, and good humor as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.


"our" lord? Who are you to force YOUR lord on any and all individuals?



"Our" is an inclusionary term, meaning, first "Our group, not your
group." Or an exclusionary term. It delineates groups. Neutrally.

Second "All of us, wether you know it or not, are bounded by the
logic of the universe, wether you understand it or not."

Force? What force? Bugger off, if you want to. Or, try to
understand Christ. Press "N" for next.

He ain't easy. If you get as far as "OH, Lord, why have you
foresaken me?" You will have come far, indeed.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you peace, fellowship, and good humor as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.


One feast day of many? Yet, will you argue that a man needs no
sabbath? Even from sabbaths? For the sabbath was "ordained for the
good of men."

Whatever day you celebrate, thankfully. Variety is good. Free will
is good. Rest is good. Spending wages earned is good, and requires
a day off in which to do it. Commerce is good. Communications is
good. You are good, maybe just a little off target. Give peace a
chance, if you hope for peace.

Merry Festivus.

Terry K


Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 02:16 AM

If you fish at all...
 
JimC,
I am sorry, once you have been labeled a liberal, you have to live with that
albatross the rest of your life.


"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came

to
mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list.
Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as

Kevin

Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.

Thanks]
Jim C.





thunder December 7th 05 02:40 AM

If you fish at all...
 
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:49:33 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:


In Ontario, I think the Liberals will win most of the seats in parliament.
In my opinion Harper is an idiot. Peter is not far behind. If things
in the party get any worse, I may change sides! ;-) The NDP is full
of despots and they don't have a chance.


Down here, it's being reported that it is expected to be close, with the
Liberals slightly ahead. Is that not true?

P. Fritz December 7th 05 02:40 AM

If you fish at all...
 

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
k.net...
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.



I wasn't aware you had a boat, Fritz. Do you have a bathtub, too?



If he does have a bathtub...I wish he'd use it before coming here!


That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND" button,
but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic and sad.


Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some
sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their
little circle jerk fest.





P. Fritz December 7th 05 02:42 AM

If you fish at all...
 
Mr Harry Lobsta Boat Krause demanding proof of anything is comical,
along with his permanent rectal suppository donny.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
k.net...
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:

P Fritz wrote:

Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone
that has
nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat.



Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head.
What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which
is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on
their monetary value?




I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just
figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his
status to just another right-wing ass?


I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet.


"Proved"? Wasn't on the GED test I guess...

Better ask mommy for 30 grand, get a nice Mustang and go back to

"skool".



Bert Robbins December 7th 05 03:04 AM

If you fish at all...
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came

to
mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list.
Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as

Kevin

Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.


Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.



Bert Robbins December 7th 05 03:23 AM

If you fish at all...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name
came
to
mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list.
Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as
Kevin

Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.


Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.



Well, that's a lot better than being a born-again, backwards-looking,
self-centered, selfish, anti-science, retarded "Bush" conservative who
switched from the Democratic Party in the late 1960s because "the blacks
were getting too uppity by wanting the vote" Republican, eh?


Just like your Democrat brethren you are a racist! Been to Byrd's place
lately?




Don White December 7th 05 03:33 AM

If you fish at all...
 
thunder wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:49:33 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:



In Ontario, I think the Liberals will win most of the seats in parliament.
In my opinion Harper is an idiot. Peter is not far behind. If things
in the party get any worse, I may change sides! ;-) The NDP is full
of despots and they don't have a chance.



Down here, it's being reported that it is expected to be close, with the
Liberals slightly ahead. Is that not true?


Yes...most likely a 'minority' government again.

Don White December 7th 05 03:35 AM

If you fish at all...
 
P. Fritz wrote:

Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some
sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their
little circle jerk fest.


There you go with the circles & jerks again.
You do have to find another hobby.

Bert Robbins December 7th 05 03:44 AM

If you fish at all...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
P. Fritz wrote:

Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is
some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them
have their little circle jerk fest.


There you go with the circles & jerks again.
You do have to find another hobby.


Are you speaking from a position of experience?



Jim Carter December 7th 05 12:02 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
JimC,
I am sorry, once you have been labeled a liberal, you have to live with

that
albatross the rest of your life.


Good Morning Lord Smithers: You are wrong! Totally wrong! Where is it
written that I have to have the label "Liberal" given to me for the rest of
my life? Oh....the humanity! My Conservative family will be devastated!
;-)

Anyway, who is it that makes the decision to place these labels on others?
Is it you?

Jim C.



Jim Carter December 7th 05 12:06 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.


Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.


Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back
to school to learn how your own system works.

Jim C.



Bert Robbins December 7th 05 12:35 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.


Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.


Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.


You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously.

What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the
USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand?

I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why in
the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal
level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the
prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It
seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed
as wishy washy externally.




Jim Carter December 7th 05 12:51 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
Good Morning Bert:

You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously.

What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the
USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand?

I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why

in
the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal
level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the
prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It
seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed
as wishy washy externally.

Bert, you mean to tell me that you don't take politics seriously? If that
is the case, why are you discussing it here?

I know that you don't understand how a Parliament works. A parliamentary
system works well because it is the will of the people which makes it work.
If the leader of our government makes some wrong choices, then we will have
no confidence in the government and can vote it out of power and bring in a
government to do the will of the people. You are stuck with Bush and
can't get rid of him, easily, in your form of government. If the government
of Canada is a strong one, it will have the confidence of the people and it
will stay in power. In our system, the government follows the will of the
people.
'
Jim C.



Bert Robbins December 7th 05 12:59 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off
your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.
Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.
Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.


You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously.

What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the
USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand?

I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why
in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the
federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no
confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the
current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability
interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally.




Pssst. Bert. A large number of "western" democratic nations have the same
system. If we did, we could have had a vote of no confidence on Bush and
been rid of the idiot.


You guys, the Liberal/Progressives, tried to do that a couple of weeks ago
and the Conservatives turned it into a near unanimous, which included nearly
all of the Liberal/Progressives, vot of confidence in the President's policy
in Iraq.




Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 01:02 PM

If you fish at all...
 
JimC,

Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American
Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the
Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking in
the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we
cannot continue to spend more than we bring in.

I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that
conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is
being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one
believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the
inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not
working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an
illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms when
they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for their
very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's
if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a mandatory
private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type
program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current system
is not working.




"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.


Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.


Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.

Jim C.





thunder December 7th 05 01:44 PM

If you fish at all...
 
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:35:39 -0500, Bert Robbins wrote:


I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why
in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the
federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no
confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the
current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability
interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally.


In some ways, our two party system is quite limiting. We have two voices,
the Democrats and the Republicans, that is all. In a Parliamentary
system, many parties can have an active voice. In many ways, we have
fallen victim to the party system George Washington warned us about.

P Fritz December 7th 05 02:19 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

"Don White" wrote in message
...
P. Fritz wrote:

Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is
some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them
have their little circle jerk fest.


There you go with the circles & jerks again.
You do have to find another hobby.


Are you speaking from a position of experience?



And he proves my point LOL



P Fritz December 7th 05 02:41 PM

If you fish at all...
 
I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place.
Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being
sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles, people
think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is the
unnecessary test done to cover ones ass.

The number of uninsured is far overblown as well

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,

Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American
Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the
Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking

in
the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we
cannot continue to spend more than we bring in.

I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that
conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is
being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one
believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the
inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not
working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an
illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms

when
they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for

their
very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's
if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a

mandatory
private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type
program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current

system
is not working.




"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off

your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.

Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.


Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.

Jim C.







Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 02:46 PM

If you fish at all...
 
Harry,
I have noticed over the years you have been reduced to using repetitive,
juvenile high school humor instead of even trying to use "creative puns or
jokes". Is this the result of old age or did you realize you were not
successful in your "creative puns and jokes"?




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
P Fritz wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
"Don White" wrote in message
...
P. Fritz wrote:

Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is
some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them
have their little circle jerk fest.

There you go with the circles & jerks again.
You do have to find another hobby.
Are you speaking from a position of experience?



And he proves my point LOL




Ooohhhh...Fritz and Robbins, circling and jerking each other, right here
in rec.boats.



--
If you voted for Bush, you are to blame.




P Fritz December 7th 05 02:50 PM

If you fish at all...
 
Harry is just practicing his "I know you are but what am I" routine.

Individuals with this Cluster B Personality Disorder have an excessive sense
of how important they
are. They demand and expect to be admired and praised by others and are
limited in their capacity to
appreciate others' perspectives.
Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
(cautionary statement)

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of
empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts,
as indicated by five (or
more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements
and talents, expects to
be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should
associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings
and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or
her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Harry,
I have noticed over the years you have been reduced to using repetitive,
juvenile high school humor instead of even trying to use "creative puns or
jokes". Is this the result of old age or did you realize you were not
successful in your "creative puns and jokes"?




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
P Fritz wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
"Don White" wrote in message
...
P. Fritz wrote:

Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response

is
some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch

them
have their little circle jerk fest.

There you go with the circles & jerks again.
You do have to find another hobby.
Are you speaking from a position of experience?



And he proves my point LOL




Ooohhhh...Fritz and Robbins, circling and jerking each other, right here
in rec.boats.



--
If you voted for Bush, you are to blame.






Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 02:51 PM

If you fish at all...
 
Paul,

I agree that most cities have a hospital whose emergency rooms do not turn
away patients. The problem is this is the most expensive way of dispensing
healthcare. People are using emergency rooms when a less expensive doctors
visit would suffice.

Since you agree that you and I are already paying for those w/o insurance,
it is in yours and mine best interest to make sure we have the least
expensive program in place to provide universal healthcare.

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place.
Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being
sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles,
people
think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is
the
unnecessary test done to cover ones ass.

The number of uninsured is far overblown as well

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,

Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American
Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the
Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking

in
the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we
cannot continue to spend more than we bring in.

I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that
conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is
being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one
believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the
inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not
working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when
an
illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms

when
they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for

their
very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all
American's
if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a

mandatory
private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type
program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current

system
is not working.




"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off

your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of
Canada.

Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.

Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.

Jim C.









P Fritz December 7th 05 02:54 PM

If you fish at all...
 
First of all, it would be universal health insurance, not healthcare,
since anyone requiring care gets it regardless of the ability to pay.

The problem with unviersal guvmint insurance is that it make everyone
suffer the same. Which is one of the goals of liebrals.

If I can afford better care because I work my ass off, then I should be
allowed to do that.

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Paul,

I agree that most cities have a hospital whose emergency rooms do not

turn
away patients. The problem is this is the most expensive way of

dispensing
healthcare. People are using emergency rooms when a less expensive

doctors
visit would suffice.

Since you agree that you and I are already paying for those w/o insurance,
it is in yours and mine best interest to make sure we have the least
expensive program in place to provide universal healthcare.

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place.
Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being
sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles,
people
think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is
the
unnecessary test done to cover ones ass.

The number of uninsured is far overblown as well

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,

Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an

American
Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like

the
Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is

lacking
in
the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand,

we
cannot continue to spend more than we bring in.

I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that
conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that

is
being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for

one
believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the
inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is

not
working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when
an
illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms

when
they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for

their
very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all
American's
if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a

mandatory
private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare

type
program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current

system
is not working.




"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off

your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party

of
Canada.

Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.

Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think

a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to

go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.

Jim C.











P Fritz December 7th 05 03:00 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
Good Morning Bert:

You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously.

What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in

the
USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand?

I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is

why
in
the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal
level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in

the
prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It
seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be

viewed
as wishy washy externally.

Bert, you mean to tell me that you don't take politics seriously? If

that
is the case, why are you discussing it here?

I know that you don't understand how a Parliament works. A parliamentary
system works well because it is the will of the people which makes it

work.
If the leader of our government makes some wrong choices, then we will

have
no confidence in the government and can vote it out of power and bring in

a
government to do the will of the people. You are stuck with Bush and
can't get rid of him, easily, in your form of government. If the

government
of Canada is a strong one, it will have the confidence of the people and

it
will stay in power. In our system, the government follows the will of

the
people.
'
Jim C.



The down side is that policy (economic, forgeign etc) can change at the drop
of the hat. Here in the states, things remain stable (as in direction)
for 4 years.




Jim Carter December 7th 05 03:14 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

The down side is that policy (economic, forgeign etc) can change at the

drop
of the hat. Here in the states, things remain stable (as in direction)
for 4 years.


In Canada, under Parliamentary rule, if the government screws up, we change
the government. Under your system, if the government screws up, your stuck
with it!

If you are a clear thinker, which is best?

Jim C.



Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 03:25 PM

If you fish at all...
 
Harry,
I have to say your macro seems to demonstrate a lot of deep seating anger
and resentment. Especially since I have always been polite in all of my
posts. This might explain why you had the outburst at Best Buy.

By the way, were you able to find the product you wanted at another store?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,


Here's a new macro for you, buttbrain:

I'm not interested in your directing towards me your opinions, your
suggestions, your commentary, your questions or, in fact, any of the crap
you eject into this newsgroup. I've told you this many times. Anyone else
with a working brain would have taken the hint by now.
You are not now nor anytime in the future going to be able to engage me
in any sort of discussion on any topic. All you are going to get from
me is a canned macro. Now, be a good little dicquehead and run off and
play with your retarded right-wing buddies here.


--
Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot.




Lord Reginald Smithers December 7th 05 03:32 PM

If you fish at all...
 
Paul,
See my response below.


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
First of all, it would be universal health insurance, not healthcare,
since anyone requiring care gets it regardless of the ability to pay.


Absolutely it is universal health insurance.

The problem with unviersal guvmint insurance is that it make everyone
suffer the same. Which is one of the goals of liebrals.


This would not neccessarily be true about one insurance policty fits
everyone, remember, my suggestion is to help keep yours and my costs as low
as possible. Today, you and I are paying for all those without insurance
already. I would rather pay for cheap preventative care, than expensive
treatment due to lack of preventative care.

Just as people can buy different health insurance today, different auto
insurance today, there is nothing to say we all have to have the same health
insurance.


If I can afford better care because I work my ass off, then I should be
allowed to do that.


And you would not be required to us a national health care program if it was
offered. In most countries with universal health insurance, there are
private health insurance providers for those who don't want to use the
limited govt. resources.

The idea is to find a way to lower yours and my health insurance costs.



"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message . ..
Paul,

I agree that most cities have a hospital whose emergency rooms do not

turn
away patients. The problem is this is the most expensive way of

dispensing
healthcare. People are using emergency rooms when a less expensive

doctors
visit would suffice.

Since you agree that you and I are already paying for those w/o
insurance,
it is in yours and mine best interest to make sure we have the least
expensive program in place to provide universal healthcare.

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...
I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place.
Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being
sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles,
people
think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third
is
the
unnecessary test done to cover ones ass.

The number of uninsured is far overblown as well

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my
manor.
wrote in message ...
JimC,

Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an

American
Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like

the
Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is

lacking
in
the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand,

we
cannot continue to spend more than we bring in.

I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that
conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that

is
being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for

one
believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the
inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is

not
working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated
when
an
illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency
rooms
when
they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for
their
very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all
American's
if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a
mandatory
private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare

type
program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current
system
is not working.




"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .
Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me
off
your
list
as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party

of
Canada.

Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA.

Good Morning Bert:
How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a
member
of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you
think

a
Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to

go
back
to school to learn how your own system works.

Jim C.













P Fritz December 7th 05 03:43 PM

If you fish at all...
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
.. .

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

The down side is that policy (economic, forgeign etc) can change at the

drop
of the hat. Here in the states, things remain stable (as in

direction)
for 4 years.


In Canada, under Parliamentary rule, if the government screws up, we

change
the government. Under your system, if the government screws up, your

stuck
with it!

If you are a clear thinker, which is best?


I still feel the US system is better, we are not "stuck", there is a
removal process, the bar is just set higher than a change in the wind

Jim C.






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