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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:20 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
John H. wrote: On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:46:26 GMT, Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head. What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on their monetary value? I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his status to just another right-wing ass? I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet. Don. You might not want to mention the concept of proof to Harold. -- John H What's your favorite proof, Herring? 86? Oprah Winfrey for President! Used to be, if I couldn't find 150! -- John H MERRY CHRISTMAS! Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day. |
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JimC,
I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and you name came to mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list. Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin and Harry. "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... Hey Don, Harry, Kevin, jps, bb, Jim Carter and Chuck. opps, there is no room for me in the club. So sorry. ; ) Lord Smithers, why do you have me included with those other persons? I don't know any of them. I do not live on the East Coast. I am not an American. I do not live on the West Coast either! Please let me know why. Thanks Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield |
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JohnH,
In college we used to have Golden Grain parties, grape juice, oranges, lemons and limes and 190 proof grain alcohol. Tasted like a fruit drink. "John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:20 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:46:26 GMT, Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head. What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on their monetary value? I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his status to just another right-wing ass? I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet. Don. You might not want to mention the concept of proof to Harold. -- John H What's your favorite proof, Herring? 86? Oprah Winfrey for President! Used to be, if I couldn't find 150! -- John H MERRY CHRISTMAS! Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day. |
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Grain alcohol always made for a cheap party.
We used to make "rocket fuel" a similar concoction, adding lime sherbert (to give it a creamier feel, and dry ice to make it bubble and fog :-) And it was appropriate for all those damn engineering majors. "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message . .. JohnH, In college we used to have Golden Grain parties, grape juice, oranges, lemons and limes and 190 proof grain alcohol. Tasted like a fruit drink. "John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:20 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:46:26 GMT, Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head. What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on their monetary value? I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his status to just another right-wing ass? I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet. Don. You might not want to mention the concept of proof to Harold. -- John H What's your favorite proof, Herring? 86? Oprah Winfrey for President! Used to be, if I couldn't find 150! -- John H MERRY CHRISTMAS! Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day. |
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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. I wasn't aware you had a boat, Fritz. Do you have a bathtub, too? If he does have a bathtub...I wish he'd use it before coming here! That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND" button, but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic and sad. |
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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head. What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on their monetary value? I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his status to just another right-wing ass? I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet. "Proved"? Wasn't on the GED test I guess... Better ask mommy for 30 grand, get a nice Mustang and go back to "skool". |
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P Fritz wrote:
It is simply amazing how donny will go to such great lengths to keep his nose wedged up harry's ass.....I guess he is afraid kevin might slip in there and take his place. And once again we see the hypocricy of the typical liebral My my. I'm suprised JohnH doesn't jump in here and advise you're ** insert bad word ** me with that language. How about JimH...surely this rates as *vulgar*. |
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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came to mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list. Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Thanks] Jim C. |
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Dan Krueger wrote:
That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND" button, but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic and sad. So ...since you only find it "lame"...am I to believe you haven't graduated from High School? That does answer some questions. |
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Jim Carter wrote:
"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came to mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list. Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Thanks] Jim C. Jim...think Harper will get anywhere in Ontario? Wonder if you guys should have elected Peter MacKay as your leader. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Jim...think Harper will get anywhere in Ontario? Wonder if you guys should have elected Peter MacKay as your leader. Hi Don. The best person we had switched parties. It was Belinda Stronach. A terrific Lady! In Ontario, I think the Liberals will win most of the seats in parliament. In my opinion Harper is an idiot. Peter is not far behind. If things in the party get any worse, I may change sides! ;-) The NDP is full of despots and they don't have a chance. Jim C. |
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John H. wrote:
MERRY CHRISTMAS! Wishing you peace, fellowship, and good humor as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day. "our" lord? Who are you to force YOUR lord on any and all individuals? "Our" is an inclusionary term, meaning, first "Our group, not your group." Or an exclusionary term. It delineates groups. Neutrally. Second "All of us, wether you know it or not, are bounded by the logic of the universe, wether you understand it or not." Force? What force? Bugger off, if you want to. Or, try to understand Christ. Press "N" for next. He ain't easy. If you get as far as "OH, Lord, why have you foresaken me?" You will have come far, indeed. MERRY CHRISTMAS! Wishing you peace, fellowship, and good humor as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day. One feast day of many? Yet, will you argue that a man needs no sabbath? Even from sabbaths? For the sabbath was "ordained for the good of men." Whatever day you celebrate, thankfully. Variety is good. Free will is good. Rest is good. Spending wages earned is good, and requires a day off in which to do it. Commerce is good. Communications is good. You are good, maybe just a little off target. Give peace a chance, if you hope for peace. Merry Festivus. Terry K |
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JimC,
I am sorry, once you have been labeled a liberal, you have to live with that albatross the rest of your life. "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came to mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list. Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Thanks] Jim C. |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:49:33 -0500, Jim Carter wrote:
In Ontario, I think the Liberals will win most of the seats in parliament. In my opinion Harper is an idiot. Peter is not far behind. If things in the party get any worse, I may change sides! ;-) The NDP is full of despots and they don't have a chance. Down here, it's being reported that it is expected to be close, with the Liberals slightly ahead. Is that not true? |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message k.net... Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. I wasn't aware you had a boat, Fritz. Do you have a bathtub, too? If he does have a bathtub...I wish he'd use it before coming here! That's lame. I'm sure YOU got a chuckle when you hit the "SEND" button, but anyone who graduated high school would find it pathetic and sad. Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their little circle jerk fest. |
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Mr Harry Lobsta Boat Krause demanding proof of anything is comical,
along with his permanent rectal suppository donny. "Dan Krueger" wrote in message k.net... Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: P Fritz wrote: Poor donny, the jealousy is raging. Pretty funny for someone that has nothing bigger than a bath tub toy for a boat. Ah ha! Another 'boat snob' rears his ugly head. What's next Frizzle...are we going to line up our boats...see which is bigger and create some kind of hierachy in the newsgroup based on their monetary value? I guess I missed it, but I was unaware that Fritz had a boat. I just figured him for another boatless right-wing ass. Should I change his status to just another right-wing ass? I wouldn't . He hasn't proved anything yet. "Proved"? Wasn't on the GED test I guess... Better ask mommy for 30 grand, get a nice Mustang and go back to "skool". |
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"Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came to mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list. Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, I included you on the list because I needed 7 liberals and your name came to mind. I really didn't spend more than 10 secs coming up with the list. Trust me, I am not putting you or anyone else in the same category as Kevin Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Well, that's a lot better than being a born-again, backwards-looking, self-centered, selfish, anti-science, retarded "Bush" conservative who switched from the Democratic Party in the late 1960s because "the blacks were getting too uppity by wanting the vote" Republican, eh? Just like your Democrat brethren you are a racist! Been to Byrd's place lately? |
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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:49:33 -0500, Jim Carter wrote: In Ontario, I think the Liberals will win most of the seats in parliament. In my opinion Harper is an idiot. Peter is not far behind. If things in the party get any worse, I may change sides! ;-) The NDP is full of despots and they don't have a chance. Down here, it's being reported that it is expected to be close, with the Liberals slightly ahead. Is that not true? Yes...most likely a 'minority' government again. |
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P. Fritz wrote:
Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their little circle jerk fest. There you go with the circles & jerks again. You do have to find another hobby. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... P. Fritz wrote: Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their little circle jerk fest. There you go with the circles & jerks again. You do have to find another hobby. Are you speaking from a position of experience? |
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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message . .. JimC, I am sorry, once you have been labeled a liberal, you have to live with that albatross the rest of your life. Good Morning Lord Smithers: You are wrong! Totally wrong! Where is it written that I have to have the label "Liberal" given to me for the rest of my life? Oh....the humanity! My Conservative family will be devastated! ;-) Anyway, who is it that makes the decision to place these labels on others? Is it you? Jim C. |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. Jim C. |
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"Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously. What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand? I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally. |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Good Morning Bert: You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously. What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand? I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally. Bert, you mean to tell me that you don't take politics seriously? If that is the case, why are you discussing it here? I know that you don't understand how a Parliament works. A parliamentary system works well because it is the will of the people which makes it work. If the leader of our government makes some wrong choices, then we will have no confidence in the government and can vote it out of power and bring in a government to do the will of the people. You are stuck with Bush and can't get rid of him, easily, in your form of government. If the government of Canada is a strong one, it will have the confidence of the people and it will stay in power. In our system, the government follows the will of the people. ' Jim C. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously. What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand? I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally. Pssst. Bert. A large number of "western" democratic nations have the same system. If we did, we could have had a vote of no confidence on Bush and been rid of the idiot. You guys, the Liberal/Progressives, tried to do that a couple of weeks ago and the Conservatives turned it into a near unanimous, which included nearly all of the Liberal/Progressives, vot of confidence in the President's policy in Iraq. |
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JimC,
Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking in the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we cannot continue to spend more than we bring in. I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms when they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for their very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a mandatory private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current system is not working. "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. Jim C. |
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:35:39 -0500, Bert Robbins wrote:
I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally. In some ways, our two party system is quite limiting. We have two voices, the Democrats and the Republicans, that is all. In a Parliamentary system, many parties can have an active voice. In many ways, we have fallen victim to the party system George Washington warned us about. |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. "Don White" wrote in message ... P. Fritz wrote: Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their little circle jerk fest. There you go with the circles & jerks again. You do have to find another hobby. Are you speaking from a position of experience? And he proves my point LOL |
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I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place.
Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles, people think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is the unnecessary test done to cover ones ass. The number of uninsured is far overblown as well "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking in the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we cannot continue to spend more than we bring in. I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms when they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for their very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a mandatory private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current system is not working. "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. Jim C. |
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Harry,
I have noticed over the years you have been reduced to using repetitive, juvenile high school humor instead of even trying to use "creative puns or jokes". Is this the result of old age or did you realize you were not successful in your "creative puns and jokes"? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... P Fritz wrote: "Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. "Don White" wrote in message ... P. Fritz wrote: Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their little circle jerk fest. There you go with the circles & jerks again. You do have to find another hobby. Are you speaking from a position of experience? And he proves my point LOL Ooohhhh...Fritz and Robbins, circling and jerking each other, right here in rec.boats. -- If you voted for Bush, you are to blame. |
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Harry is just practicing his "I know you are but what am I" routine.
Individuals with this Cluster B Personality Disorder have an excessive sense of how important they are. They demand and expect to be admired and praised by others and are limited in their capacity to appreciate others' perspectives. Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (cautionary statement) A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: (1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) (2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) (4) requires excessive admiration (5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations (6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends (7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others (8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her (9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... Harry, I have noticed over the years you have been reduced to using repetitive, juvenile high school humor instead of even trying to use "creative puns or jokes". Is this the result of old age or did you realize you were not successful in your "creative puns and jokes"? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... P Fritz wrote: "Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. "Don White" wrote in message ... P. Fritz wrote: Donny and harry think the "I know you are but what am I" response is some sort of intellectual response. It is pretty funny to watch them have their little circle jerk fest. There you go with the circles & jerks again. You do have to find another hobby. Are you speaking from a position of experience? And he proves my point LOL Ooohhhh...Fritz and Robbins, circling and jerking each other, right here in rec.boats. -- If you voted for Bush, you are to blame. |
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Paul,
I agree that most cities have a hospital whose emergency rooms do not turn away patients. The problem is this is the most expensive way of dispensing healthcare. People are using emergency rooms when a less expensive doctors visit would suffice. Since you agree that you and I are already paying for those w/o insurance, it is in yours and mine best interest to make sure we have the least expensive program in place to provide universal healthcare. "P Fritz" wrote in message ... I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place. Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles, people think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is the unnecessary test done to cover ones ass. The number of uninsured is far overblown as well "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking in the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we cannot continue to spend more than we bring in. I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms when they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for their very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a mandatory private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current system is not working. "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. Jim C. |
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First of all, it would be universal health insurance, not healthcare,
since anyone requiring care gets it regardless of the ability to pay. The problem with unviersal guvmint insurance is that it make everyone suffer the same. Which is one of the goals of liebrals. If I can afford better care because I work my ass off, then I should be allowed to do that. "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message . .. Paul, I agree that most cities have a hospital whose emergency rooms do not turn away patients. The problem is this is the most expensive way of dispensing healthcare. People are using emergency rooms when a less expensive doctors visit would suffice. Since you agree that you and I are already paying for those w/o insurance, it is in yours and mine best interest to make sure we have the least expensive program in place to provide universal healthcare. "P Fritz" wrote in message ... I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place. Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles, people think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is the unnecessary test done to cover ones ass. The number of uninsured is far overblown as well "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking in the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we cannot continue to spend more than we bring in. I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms when they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for their very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a mandatory private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current system is not working. "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. Jim C. |
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"Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Good Morning Bert: You are as bad a Doug at taking everything too seriously. What if I said, that you would be considered a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Would that have been easier for you to understand? I understand how the US system works. But, what I don't understand is why in the parlimentarian system, of which your country operates at the federal level, is why you subject yourselfs to these votes of no confidence in the prime minister which can result in dissolving the current government. It seems that that can and would produce instability interanlly and be viewed as wishy washy externally. Bert, you mean to tell me that you don't take politics seriously? If that is the case, why are you discussing it here? I know that you don't understand how a Parliament works. A parliamentary system works well because it is the will of the people which makes it work. If the leader of our government makes some wrong choices, then we will have no confidence in the government and can vote it out of power and bring in a government to do the will of the people. You are stuck with Bush and can't get rid of him, easily, in your form of government. If the government of Canada is a strong one, it will have the confidence of the people and it will stay in power. In our system, the government follows the will of the people. ' Jim C. The down side is that policy (economic, forgeign etc) can change at the drop of the hat. Here in the states, things remain stable (as in direction) for 4 years. |
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"P Fritz" wrote in message ... The down side is that policy (economic, forgeign etc) can change at the drop of the hat. Here in the states, things remain stable (as in direction) for 4 years. In Canada, under Parliamentary rule, if the government screws up, we change the government. Under your system, if the government screws up, your stuck with it! If you are a clear thinker, which is best? Jim C. |
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Harry,
I have to say your macro seems to demonstrate a lot of deep seating anger and resentment. Especially since I have always been polite in all of my posts. This might explain why you had the outburst at Best Buy. By the way, were you able to find the product you wanted at another store? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Lord Reginald Smithers wrote: Harry, Here's a new macro for you, buttbrain: I'm not interested in your directing towards me your opinions, your suggestions, your commentary, your questions or, in fact, any of the crap you eject into this newsgroup. I've told you this many times. Anyone else with a working brain would have taken the hint by now. You are not now nor anytime in the future going to be able to engage me in any sort of discussion on any topic. All you are going to get from me is a canned macro. Now, be a good little dicquehead and run off and play with your retarded right-wing buddies here. -- Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot. |
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Paul,
See my response below. "P Fritz" wrote in message ... First of all, it would be universal health insurance, not healthcare, since anyone requiring care gets it regardless of the ability to pay. Absolutely it is universal health insurance. The problem with unviersal guvmint insurance is that it make everyone suffer the same. Which is one of the goals of liebrals. This would not neccessarily be true about one insurance policty fits everyone, remember, my suggestion is to help keep yours and my costs as low as possible. Today, you and I are paying for all those without insurance already. I would rather pay for cheap preventative care, than expensive treatment due to lack of preventative care. Just as people can buy different health insurance today, different auto insurance today, there is nothing to say we all have to have the same health insurance. If I can afford better care because I work my ass off, then I should be allowed to do that. And you would not be required to us a national health care program if it was offered. In most countries with universal health insurance, there are private health insurance providers for those who don't want to use the limited govt. resources. The idea is to find a way to lower yours and my health insurance costs. "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message . .. Paul, I agree that most cities have a hospital whose emergency rooms do not turn away patients. The problem is this is the most expensive way of dispensing healthcare. People are using emergency rooms when a less expensive doctors visit would suffice. Since you agree that you and I are already paying for those w/o insurance, it is in yours and mine best interest to make sure we have the least expensive program in place to provide universal healthcare. "P Fritz" wrote in message ... I disagree. The source of the problem is guvmint in the first place. Emergency rooms don't turn away the non critical care for fear of being sued, and when you have health care coverage with tiny deductibles, people think nothing of squandering the health care resources, and the third is the unnecessary test done to cover ones ass. The number of uninsured is far overblown as well "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote in message ... JimC, Bert's theory is a conservatives in Canada are as liberal as an American Liberal. He was not talking about any US party or group. I did like the Canadian's Conservative's strong fiscal responsibility, which is lacking in the US's Conservative Party. This is something we need to understand, we cannot continue to spend more than we bring in. I looked at the web site and most of the principles are ones that conservatives from America would endorse. The only one I noticed that is being hotly debated in the US today is universal health care. I for one believe this will become a fact in the US. I am concerned about the inefficiency of all Governmental programs, but the current system is not working. Those without healthcare insurance are not being treated when an illness can be treated inexpensively, they are going to emergency rooms when they have severe health problems. Today, all Americans are paying for their very expensive healthcare anyway. It would be cheaper for all American's if preventative healthcare was available for all, either through a mandatory private insurance companies, subsidized for the poor, or a Medicare type program. This is a 180 degree change for me, but I know our current system is not working. "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . Lord Smithers, I am definitely not a Liberal so please take me off your list as I am a card carrying member of the Federal Conservative Party of Canada. Makes you a Liberal/Progressive in the USA. Good Morning Bert: How could my being a member of a Political Party in Canada make me a member of a Political Group in the USA. Are you that dense that you think a Canadian Citizen can be a member of your voting group? You need to go back to school to learn how your own system works. Jim C. |
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"Jim Carter" wrote in message .. . "P Fritz" wrote in message ... The down side is that policy (economic, forgeign etc) can change at the drop of the hat. Here in the states, things remain stable (as in direction) for 4 years. In Canada, under Parliamentary rule, if the government screws up, we change the government. Under your system, if the government screws up, your stuck with it! If you are a clear thinker, which is best? I still feel the US system is better, we are not "stuck", there is a removal process, the bar is just set higher than a change in the wind Jim C. |
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