On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:32:52 -0600, Skipper wrote:

wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......

And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

Interesting that my observations so inflamed you and you were unable to
address directly the questions posed. Could it be yet another case of NG
NPD? Do you really feel holier than thou, Commodore?

Your "questions" were based on the lie you created when you snipped my
post to claim I was stating that outboard or sterndrive boaters are
somehow "inferior". What's to address, besides your long list of
ridiculous personal responses to a lie that you had to go out of your
way to create?

I still find it very telling that you're still not able to address
directly the very simple questions posed.

Skipper, you're following a bad example pulling Harry's tricks.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

John H. wrote:
On 2 Dec 2005 12:29:24 -0800, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......

And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

So, Commodore Chucky, perhaps it's time you wake up and realize you are
more of a hypocritical problem than a wise solution for this NG. Can you
stop the denigration of fellow boaters? Having met you and experienced
your personal and business ethics, I rather doubt it. And while we're on
this subject, can you imagine Peggy or Bill Granis labeling fellow
contributors as "non-boaters" and engaging them in long political
banter? Can you visualize the Commodore doing so?

--
Skipper


Back to snipping posts to completely distort their meanings, and then
picking a fight based on the distortion? You never cease to amaze me,
Dave. You lie so blatantly (by distorting what others have said) and so
openly that you must have no personal regard for truth at all. (Or you
feel that you're surrounded by such idiots that nobody is likely to
notice). I keep hoping for the recovery of your
mental/physical/emotional health. I don't know that you were ever truly
a "nice guy", but you might ask yourself why so many different people
have commented on the new, not-at-all- improved- but- defintiely-
changed "Skipper" since your return. Hint: It isn't a conspiracy,
really, it isn't.

Why does it bother you when Skipper does it, but causes no reaction
when Harry does the same thing?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

I try, (not always with 100% success) to stay out of other peoples'
fights. Harry has never doctored one of my posts or cut off a
significant portion in order to claim I said something that was never
said. If Harry did that to me, I would protest just as I have done when
Slipper the snipper pulls this trick. What people do to one another in
this group that isn't directed at or doesn't concern me is none of my
business.

wrote:

... What people do to one another in this group that isn't directed at
or doesn't concern me is none of my business.

Stated like the true liberal you are, Commodore. In truth, what happens
to or at fellow NG contributors is the business of all who wish a clean
free and open exchange of on-topic information.

--
Skipper

Harry Krause wrote:

Please have someone let us know when you suffer your final stroke. We'd
like a free and open exchange of that information so we can schedule the
proper celebration.

Will you be ripping your outer garments, Krause?

--
Skipper

On 2 Dec 2005 13:57:25 -0800, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 2 Dec 2005 12:29:24 -0800, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......

And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

So, Commodore Chucky, perhaps it's time you wake up and realize you are
more of a hypocritical problem than a wise solution for this NG. Can you
stop the denigration of fellow boaters? Having met you and experienced
your personal and business ethics, I rather doubt it. And while we're on
this subject, can you imagine Peggy or Bill Granis labeling fellow
contributors as "non-boaters" and engaging them in long political
banter? Can you visualize the Commodore doing so?

--
Skipper


Back to snipping posts to completely distort their meanings, and then
picking a fight based on the distortion? You never cease to amaze me,
Dave. You lie so blatantly (by distorting what others have said) and so
openly that you must have no personal regard for truth at all. (Or you
feel that you're surrounded by such idiots that nobody is likely to
notice). I keep hoping for the recovery of your
mental/physical/emotional health. I don't know that you were ever truly
a "nice guy", but you might ask yourself why so many different people
have commented on the new, not-at-all- improved- but- defintiely-
changed "Skipper" since your return. Hint: It isn't a conspiracy,
really, it isn't.

Why does it bother you when Skipper does it, but causes no reaction
when Harry does the same thing?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

I try, (not always with 100% success) to stay out of other peoples'
fights. Harry has never doctored one of my posts or cut off a
significant portion in order to claim I said something that was never
said. If Harry did that to me, I would protest just as I have done when
Slipper the snipper pulls this trick. What people do to one another in
this group that isn't directed at or doesn't concern me is none of my
business.

I see.

It does seem, however, that you have made many posts regarding the
behavior of individuals in the group even though the behavior was not
directed towards you.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Harry Krause wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Please have someone let us know when you suffer your final stroke. We'd
like a free and open exchange of that information so we can schedule the
proper celebration.

Will you be ripping your outer garments, Krause?

Why would I do that?
You're really one strange dude.

Filipino proverb: It is harder to wake a person pretending to sleep,
than a person truly sleeping.

--
Skipper

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:01:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 2 Dec 2005 12:29:24 -0800, wrote:

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......
And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

So, Commodore Chucky, perhaps it's time you wake up and realize you are
more of a hypocritical problem than a wise solution for this NG. Can you
stop the denigration of fellow boaters? Having met you and experienced
your personal and business ethics, I rather doubt it. And while we're on
this subject, can you imagine Peggy or Bill Granis labeling fellow
contributors as "non-boaters" and engaging them in long political
banter? Can you visualize the Commodore doing so?

--
Skipper

Back to snipping posts to completely distort their meanings, and then
picking a fight based on the distortion? You never cease to amaze me,
Dave. You lie so blatantly (by distorting what others have said) and so
openly that you must have no personal regard for truth at all. (Or you
feel that you're surrounded by such idiots that nobody is likely to
notice). I keep hoping for the recovery of your
mental/physical/emotional health. I don't know that you were ever truly
a "nice guy", but you might ask yourself why so many different people
have commented on the new, not-at-all- improved- but- defintiely-
changed "Skipper" since your return. Hint: It isn't a conspiracy,
really, it isn't.
Why does it bother you when Skipper does it, but causes no reaction
when Harry does the same thing?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

I try, (not always with 100% success) to stay out of other peoples'
fights. Harry has never doctored one of my posts or cut off a
significant portion in order to claim I said something that was never
said. If Harry did that to me, I would protest just as I have done when
Slipper the snipper pulls this trick. What people do to one another in
this group that isn't directed at or doesn't concern me is none of my
business.


Herring is just upset because I pointed out some of his posts implied he
made some remarks here that could be considered racist against blacks
and Hispanics.

Harry, you don't have the power to upset me. You do have the power to
make me laugh, which you often exercise.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

... What people do to one another in this group that isn't directed at
or doesn't concern me is none of my business.

Stated like the true liberal you are, Commodore. In truth, what happens
to or at fellow NG contributors is the business of all who wish a clean
free and open exchange of on-topic information.

--
Skipper

If you had any concern for people seeking a clean, free exchange of
on-topic information you'd take a sledge to your computer.

wrote:

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

... What people do to one another in this group that isn't directed at
or doesn't concern me is none of my business.

Stated like the true liberal you are, Commodore. In truth, what happens
to or at fellow NG contributors is the business of all who wish a clean
free and open exchange of on-topic information.

If you had any concern for people seeking a clean, free exchange of
on-topic information you'd take a sledge to your computer.

Believe we can assume from your continued irrational rants that you're
*still* not prepared to issue those overdue apologies.

--
Skipper

Don White wrote:

*JimH* wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.


Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.




We know you have a boat Don. How is it you know that Kevin has one?

Sorry...I don't know this Kevin you keep referring to.
Sure you do. He's in your "circle".