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![]() "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe he is telling the truth? He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to what the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news media lying? Two separate questions for you. Sit down. 1) Is it possible that a new school could be successfully completed, opened and populated in one part of Iraq, while in another location, things are a total ****ing mess and have only gotten worse? Yes. The first school is in the Shiite regions. The second is in the Sunni regions. It's no different than red counties vs. blue counties right in here in the good ol' U.S of A. The blue counties are analogous to the Sunni regions. Good! So, we've agreed that there are places which are not so happy and shiny and peaceful. 2) Is it possible that a senator might not be willing or able to tour the second location, where even our own servicemen enter at extreme risk to themselves, in armored vehicles which are not immune to roadside bombs? Just like most politicians avoid visiting inner-city project housing for fear of their own safety. Good! That means Lieberman didn't see everything, or speak to people who had stories which contradict the rosy picture. For instance, people whose male family members had been taken away and killed in the middle of the night, by the Iraqi police. On NBC news last night, a general (in a uniform, in front of a microphone, in Iraq) commented that out of 8 or 10 divisions of Iraqi soldiers, only 1 (as in ONE) division was ready to be self-sufficient. The rest were useful only as backup for our own troops. One of your president's measures of success (per his own blather last spring) was how well the Iraqi army was doing in its training. Perhaps someone else here can answer this question: Here in America, if you enter Army boot camp on January 1, what is the shortest period of time that must pass before the Army would consider you ready to be sent into battle? |
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