Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Editorial: Bush creates illusion of progress in Iraq

December 1, 2005


What about your boy Lieberman and his latest editorial? Seems to support
Bush.

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Dan J.S. wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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startribune.com
Editorial: Bush creates illusion of progress in Iraq

December 1, 2005


What about your boy Lieberman and his latest editorial? Seems to support
Bush.

Joe Lieberman isn't "my" boy or anyone else's. He's a solid U.S. Senator
and someone I respect.

That does not mean I have to agree with him,

It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe he
is telling the truth?

He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to what
the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news media
lying?

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe he
is telling the truth?

He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to what
the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news media
lying?

Two separate questions for you. Sit down.

1) Is it possible that a new school could be successfully completed, opened
and populated in one part of Iraq, while in another location, things are a
total ****ing mess and have only gotten worse?

2) Is it possible that a senator might not be willing or able to tour the
second location, where even our own servicemen enter at extreme risk to
themselves, in armored vehicles which are not immune to roadside bombs?

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
startribune.com
Editorial: Bush creates illusion of progress in Iraq

December 1, 2005


What about your boy Lieberman and his latest editorial? Seems to support
Bush.


For how long will Lieberman's article be your bible? Is there an expiration
date, or does the article trump any subsequent information, regardless of
the source?

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe
he is telling the truth?

He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to what
the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news media
lying?

Two separate questions for you. Sit down.

1) Is it possible that a new school could be successfully completed,
opened and populated in one part of Iraq, while in another location,
things are a total ****ing mess and have only gotten worse?

Yes. The first school is in the Shiite regions. The second is in the Sunni
regions. It's no different than red counties vs. blue counties right in
here in the good ol' U.S of A. The blue counties are analogous to the Sunni
regions.


2) Is it possible that a senator might not be willing or able to tour the
second location, where even our own servicemen enter at extreme risk to
themselves, in armored vehicles which are not immune to roadside bombs?

Just like most politicians avoid visiting inner-city project housing for
fear of their own safety.

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:19:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe he
is telling the truth?

He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to what
the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news media
lying?

Two separate questions for you. Sit down.

1) Is it possible that a new school could be successfully completed, opened
and populated in one part of Iraq, while in another location, things are a
total ****ing mess and have only gotten worse?

2) Is it possible that a senator might not be willing or able to tour the
second location, where even our own servicemen enter at extreme risk to
themselves, in armored vehicles which are not immune to roadside bombs?


Regardless, Doug. Why is the major media keeping silent about it?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe
he is telling the truth?

He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to
what the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news
media lying?

Two separate questions for you. Sit down.

1) Is it possible that a new school could be successfully completed,
opened and populated in one part of Iraq, while in another location,
things are a total ****ing mess and have only gotten worse?

Yes. The first school is in the Shiite regions. The second is in the
Sunni regions. It's no different than red counties vs. blue counties
right in here in the good ol' U.S of A. The blue counties are analogous
to the Sunni regions.

Good! So, we've agreed that there are places which are not so happy and
shiny and peaceful.



2) Is it possible that a senator might not be willing or able to tour the
second location, where even our own servicemen enter at extreme risk to
themselves, in armored vehicles which are not immune to roadside bombs?

Just like most politicians avoid visiting inner-city project housing for
fear of their own safety.

Good! That means Lieberman didn't see everything, or speak to people who had
stories which contradict the rosy picture. For instance, people whose male
family members had been taken away and killed in the middle of the night, by
the Iraqi police.

On NBC news last night, a general (in a uniform, in front of a microphone,
in Iraq) commented that out of 8 or 10 divisions of Iraqi soldiers, only 1
(as in ONE) division was ready to be self-sufficient. The rest were useful
only as backup for our own troops. One of your president's measures of
success (per his own blather last spring) was how well the Iraqi army was
doing in its training.

Perhaps someone else here can answer this question: Here in America, if you
enter Army boot camp on January 1, what is the shortest period of time that
must pass before the Army would consider you ready to be sent into battle?

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:21:02 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
startribune.com
Editorial: Bush creates illusion of progress in Iraq

December 1, 2005


What about your boy Lieberman and his latest editorial? Seems to support
Bush.


For how long will Lieberman's article be your bible? Is there an expiration
date, or does the article trump any subsequent information, regardless of
the source?


Why does the major media have so much 'respect' for Murtha's words, but so
little for Lieberman's?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:19:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...

It's not a matter of agreeing with him. The question is: do you believe
he
is telling the truth?

He stated certain *facts* about Iraq, that are in direct contrast to
what
the news media would have us believe. Is he lying or is the news media
lying?

Two separate questions for you. Sit down.

1) Is it possible that a new school could be successfully completed,
opened
and populated in one part of Iraq, while in another location, things are a
total ****ing mess and have only gotten worse?

2) Is it possible that a senator might not be willing or able to tour the
second location, where even our own servicemen enter at extreme risk to
themselves, in armored vehicles which are not immune to roadside bombs?


Regardless, Doug. Why is the major media keeping silent about it?

Silent about what? Some of the nice things our soldiers have done over
there? They're not silent about these things. I've been hearing about them
from various mainstream sources, such as NPR and the NY Times, as well as
our local Gannett paper.

Bush's ability to fool people diminishes
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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You mean, of course, most Republican politicians. I've been on visits to
inner-city project housing with Democratic politicians.

Handing out cigarettes to bribe derelicts to vote, eh?