On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:22:07 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


You want to get them so bad that you are ignoring everything that points
to the simple fact that almost everybody knew who and what she was from
the beginning, not to mention that her status as a "covert" operative was
totally and completely debunked.

Rove, you betcha. He has a history of very dirty tricks. Trashing anyone
who doesn't walk the line. Damn straight, I'd love to see him in wide
stripes. Libby? I've nothing against him. I almost feel sorry for him.
He seems like he was being a good soldier, nothing more. But, and this is
important, I'm more than willing to let the law run it's course. If it
was broken, we have a justice system that is built just for this purpose.

As for Plame being "covert", you are probably right that she doesn't meet
the IIPA's definition, and, to my knowledge, Fitzgerald hasn't claimed she
did. However, her status was classified, and leaking classified
information is a crime.

This Grand Jury isn't going anywhere either - ham sandwich or not. They've
got nothing and Woodward just blew the Libby charges up and there's
nothing more to "get".

Woodward's testimony doesn't change anything. Not the charges against
Libby, not Rove's status, nothing. It's just more information that was
made public.


Oh, and the Abramhoff (sp?) thing you were so hip on? Turns out he was in
the Democrats pockets too. Wonder where that one is going?

And that makes a difference? If they're dirty, hang 'em. I don't get it.
We complain about corruption in government. Yet, when someone is caught
with their hand in the cookie jar, we should look the other way, because
we agree with their politics? Not me, if their dirty, hang 'em. And
personally, I'd hang 'em higher if I agreed with their politics. It's
a matter of trust and it brings shame on my side of the aisle.


Really - it ain't gonna happen. I know you want it to, I know you hope it
does - it ain't gonna happen.

Maybe, maybe not, but Fitzgerald is still investigating and the fat lady
still hasn't sung. I think there is more to come.

"thunder" wrote in message
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doesn't change anything. Not the charges against
Libby

Horsepoop. The charges of Libby stem from the fact that Fitzgerald believed
that Libby was lying when he said that "all the press already knew about
Plame" and that he may have found out about Plame from them. Since
Woodward's testimony corroborates Libby's testimony, it's impossible for the
perjury charges to stick. Fitzgerald's entire timeline blew up in his face
with the Woodward testimony.




Maybe, maybe not, but Fitzgerald is still investigating and the fat lady
still hasn't sung.

What does Barney Frank have to do with it?

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:25:09 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Horsepoop. The charges of Libby stem from the fact that Fitzgerald
believed that Libby was lying when he said that "all the press already
knew about Plame" and that he may have found out about Plame from them.
Since Woodward's testimony corroborates Libby's testimony, it's impossible
for the perjury charges to stick. Fitzgerald's entire timeline blew up in
his face with the Woodward testimony.

Come on, NOYB, we have both read the indictment. That is not the
reasoning behind the charges. And, the timeline *hasn't changed.
Fitzgerald has Libby learning of Plame's status as early as June 11 or 12.
Woodward learned about her status mid-June. Seems to fit quite nicely.