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Lord Reginald Smithers November 30th 05 01:51 PM

Dee-licious!
 
Harry,
If you want to know what I do for a living ask. My life is an open book.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

I don't believe that Harry ever made any money off of Global Crossing
it is just another in the long line of stories to puff up his self
impression.


Bertbrain is soooo confused...a few minutes earlier, he asked:

Bert Robbins wrote:
\

So, did you make your Global Crossing money on the backs of the union
brotherhood?


Idiot.


I may be an idiot but I earn more money than you do!


I'm sure earn more money than Hertvik or Smithers. They're both too
embarrassed by what they do to say what they do. :}



--
I'm proud of my country, but appalled by my government.




P Fritz November 30th 05 01:56 PM

Dee-licious!
 

"Narcissistic men can be infatuated with their own looks, too,
.............. but are more likely than women to get hung up on their
intelligence or the importance of their work -- doesn't matter what the work
is, if he's doing it, by definition it's more important than anything you
could possibly do"

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message . ..
Harry,
If you want to know what I do for a living ask. My life is an open book.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

I don't believe that Harry ever made any money off of Global Crossing
it is just another in the long line of stories to puff up his self
impression.


Bertbrain is soooo confused...a few minutes earlier, he asked:

Bert Robbins wrote:
\

So, did you make your Global Crossing money on the backs of the union
brotherhood?


Idiot.

I may be an idiot but I earn more money than you do!


I'm sure earn more money than Hertvik or Smithers. They're both too
embarrassed by what they do to say what they do. :}



--
I'm proud of my country, but appalled by my government.









NOYB November 30th 05 02:20 PM

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"jps" wrote in message
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In article . net,
says...
Sorry, but the timeline just doesn't work.

According to Leopold "Rove instructed her (Ralston) not to log a
phone call Rove had with Cooper about Plame in July 2003."

Woodward already testified that he spoke with a government official ("not
Rove") in mid-June. Why would Rove cover-up a conversation about Plame
that
he had with Cooper, if it was already common knowledge among the press
corp
(as Andrea Mitchell admitted to in Oct. 2003...and later recanted) in
mid-June? It simply makes no sense.

Do you have any reason to doubt Woodward when he says that Plame's name
was
mentioned very casually as an off-hand comment from someone other than
Rove
or Libby?


Covering his own ass, just like Karl and Scooter?


Why? He isn't being accused of revealing the name, nor of lying to the
grand jury. So why would he lie about the casualness of his conversation
with a gov't official in June 2003?




NOYB November 30th 05 02:25 PM

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"thunder" wrote in message
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doesn't change anything. Not the charges against
Libby


Horsepoop. The charges of Libby stem from the fact that Fitzgerald believed
that Libby was lying when he said that "all the press already knew about
Plame" and that he may have found out about Plame from them. Since
Woodward's testimony corroborates Libby's testimony, it's impossible for the
perjury charges to stick. Fitzgerald's entire timeline blew up in his face
with the Woodward testimony.




Maybe, maybe not, but Fitzgerald is still investigating and the fat lady
still hasn't sung.


What does Barney Frank have to do with it?



NOYB November 30th 05 02:26 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Sorry, but the timeline just doesn't work.



Sorry, but you're a dentist in the boondocks, not a prosecutor in the
nation's capitol.


And you should thank your lucky stars for that. Or I'd be investigating
that Global Crossing profit you made.



NOYB November 30th 05 02:32 PM

Dee-licious!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Sorry, but the timeline just doesn't work.

Sorry, but you're a dentist in the boondocks, not a prosecutor in the
nation's capitol.


And you should thank your lucky stars for that. Or I'd be investigating
that Global Crossing profit you made.

Really? Why? I had no "insider" information.


It wouldn't matter if there was a crime. Maybe I could stretch it out for 2
years and catch you in a misstatement...which I could turn into a perjury
charge.




Lord Reginald Smithers November 30th 05 02:32 PM

Dee-licious!
 
NYOB,
Harry would have to actually purchased Global Crossing stock. Harry has a
long track record of saying he purchased stock after the prices go sky-high
and are reported in the news.


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Sorry, but the timeline just doesn't work.



Sorry, but you're a dentist in the boondocks, not a prosecutor in the
nation's capitol.


And you should thank your lucky stars for that. Or I'd be investigating
that Global Crossing profit you made.




thunder November 30th 05 02:35 PM

Dee-licious!
 
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:36:58 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


Horsefeathers. What she did may have been classified - viewing documents
and analyzing data, but she wasn't classified in any sense of the word.
"She works for the CIA" isn't a crime. I've got two neighbors who worked
for the CIA - I know it, they told me. Are they criminals? No.


Not all CIA employees status is classified, but Plame's was. The Libby
indictment clearly states that. As does the memo on Air Force One.


It changes everything. One of the issues surrounding Libby was he
couldn't remember who told him - he thought it was Russert. Turns out it
was probably Woodward. No lie - no foul.


Ah, if he couldn't remember, he wouldn't have been charged. He was
charged because he clearly remembered Russert telling him. This after
Fitzgerald has him discussing Plame half dozen times.

Not to mention that you can't lie about a non-crime - no crime, no lie.
You have to have a crime - there isn't a crime - no crime.


Not true. Perjury is a crime and, as a lawyer, Libby was well aware it
was a crime.


And I've been right so far. Big to do about nothing.


Maybe, maybe not. The CIA has not done a damage assessment as yet.
Clearly, Plame was safely in this country and her outing did not put her
at risk. Her high profile marriage to Wilson made her an unlikely
candidate for any future covert work. So, it is probably safe to say
little or no damage was done to her or her career. But what about others?
She was at one time a NOC. It is quite likely that the bad guys are
checking there databases for any of her contacts. Are they at risk? Along
with outing Plame, Brewster Jennings was also outed as a CIA front. Were
there any other covert agents associated with Brewster Jennings? Could
they be at risk? It might be a big to do about nothing, but can you be
sure?

thunder November 30th 05 02:52 PM

Dee-licious!
 
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:25:09 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Horsepoop. The charges of Libby stem from the fact that Fitzgerald
believed that Libby was lying when he said that "all the press already
knew about Plame" and that he may have found out about Plame from them.
Since Woodward's testimony corroborates Libby's testimony, it's impossible
for the perjury charges to stick. Fitzgerald's entire timeline blew up in
his face with the Woodward testimony.


Come on, NOYB, we have both read the indictment. That is not the
reasoning behind the charges. And, the timeline *hasn't changed.
Fitzgerald has Libby learning of Plame's status as early as June 11 or 12.
Woodward learned about her status mid-June. Seems to fit quite nicely.

jps November 30th 05 10:52 PM

Dee-licious!
 
In article ,
says...

Not to mention that you can't lie about a non-crime - no crime, no
lie. You have to have a crime - there isn't a crime - no crime.


Is that a Seinfeld reference?

Can to and he did. So there (My Elaine response).

Did I mistake you for someone above the fray? I'm feeling a lot of
partisanship in your responses to Thunder.

jps


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