So where is......................
 

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:26:45 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.



Bert thought 'Uncle Sam' was a long lost relative.


That must be it. A soldier is just another government worker.

Seems to apply, doesn't it, Harry?

Narcissists are generally contemptuous of others. This seems to spring, at base, from
their general lack of empathy, and it comes out as (at best) a dismissive attitude
towards other people's feelings, wishes, needs, concerns, standards, property, work,
etc. It is also connected to their overall negative outlook on life
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Self-obsessed Hypocrite

So where is......................
 

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:28:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part time, 20
hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and it was the
best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job wherer you could
advance on your own merits you had to wait until you did the time just
like the other guys, who were sitting around just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was bringing
home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"

Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one for
another. Soldiering is a government job.



Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?



Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell people what you do for a living.

Ring any bells, Harry?

"Narcissists don't volunteer the usual personal information about themselves, so they
may seem secretive or perhaps unusually reserved or very jealous of their privacy.
All these things are true, but with the special narcissistic twist that, first, their
real life isn't interesting to them so it doesn't occur to them that it would be
interesting to anyone else and, second, since they have not yet been transfigured
into the Star of the Universe, they're ashamed of their real life."
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Self-obsessed Hypocrite

So where is......................
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
My part time job was converted to full time the day I graduated from HS.
Working as a civilian in government is a job. Serving in the US military
is an honor and privilege.

Not only that, but it is an adventure. ; )

Bert, Harry has spent all of his life looking for acceptance. He hates it
when someone finds acceptance and happiness.

His only retort when he talks to someone who seems to enjoy his life or
finds self gratification in his life and job is to try to demean that
persons success.

Harry is jealous because he is still desperately looking for something he
will never find. He knows his life is over, is upset that he is forced to
spend his waking hours in rec.boats belittling others. We really should
feel sorry for him, but he makes it so difficult. He reminds me of a
psychotic I saw at the supermarket the other day. She was walking around
screaming and cussing at people, scratching people's car with her keys etc.
When the cops finally arrived, her response/excuse was that the meds made
her sleepy, and that is why she is so obnoxious. Even if the meds make
Harry sleepy, he needs to take them.

So where is......................
 

Worth a double reading, Harry!


On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:28:09 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my
knighthood. wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
My part time job was converted to full time the day I graduated from HS.
Working as a civilian in government is a job. Serving in the US military
is an honor and privilege.

Not only that, but it is an adventure. ; )

Bert, Harry has spent all of his life looking for acceptance. He hates it
when someone finds acceptance and happiness.

His only retort when he talks to someone who seems to enjoy his life or
finds self gratification in his life and job is to try to demean that
persons success.

Harry is jealous because he is still desperately looking for something he
will never find. He knows his life is over, is upset that he is forced to
spend his waking hours in rec.boats belittling others. We really should
feel sorry for him, but he makes it so difficult. He reminds me of a
psychotic I saw at the supermarket the other day. She was walking around
screaming and cussing at people, scratching people's car with her keys etc.
When the cops finally arrived, her response/excuse was that the meds made
her sleepy, and that is why she is so obnoxious. Even if the meds make
Harry sleepy, he needs to take them.





--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

A Famous Self-obsessed Hypocrite

So where is......................
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part time,
20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and it was
the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job wherer you
could advance on your own merits you had to wait until you did the time
just like the other guys, who were sitting around just collecting a
paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"

Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.



Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?

Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even tell
people what you do for a living.


And why do you need to know that information?

So where is......................
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and
it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job
wherer you could advance on your own merits you had to wait until you
did the time just like the other guys, who were sitting around just
collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"
Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.


Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?
Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell people what you do for a living.


And why do you need to know that information?


Why does Bert or anyone else here need to know my annual earnings?

I was curious at one point at what you did for a living. Not where you
worked, but whether you were an Indian chief, a rug salesman, or whatever.
It was just curiosity. Why, do you think if you told me you were sales
manager for company that made processing products, that would be too
revealing? You, Smithers, Robbins, and the rest of the righties are very,
very close about yourselves, but you sure don't mind talking in depth
about the lives of others...right?



Nope.

So where is......................
 

Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.

I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and
it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job
wherer you could advance on your own merits you had to wait until
you did the time just like the other guys, who were sitting around
just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"


Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join
the marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply
traded one for another. Soldiering is a government job.



Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?


Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell people what you do for a living.



That's easy...he preaches to the gullible.

The "secretive" righties here.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Well, well, well, a bit of honesty at last. You and your gang enjoy
talking up the lives of others, but you sure want to keep your lives a
secret.

Harry,
What do you mean, "You and your gang"?

I for one have no problems telling anyone what I do for fun, besides
boating, where I went to school, or any aspect of my life. I just know it
bugs the heck out of you that you don't know anything personal about me, so
I don't tell you. Your favorite past time is to know someone's address, so
you can make fun of their city, to find a picture of someone's home, so you
can make fun of the style of home, it's estimated value etc., their marital
status, so you can use that to insult people. I am proud of my life, my
wife, my kids. I don't need to seek acceptance in rec.boats.

So where is......................
 

Don,

You really should not make fun of Harry, he will start to attack you, your
city and your accent, your lifestyle etc..

I for one enjoy people with different perspectives and outlooks on the
world, so it is better if you poke some fun at me. I enjoy your humor.


"Don White" wrote in message
...

That's easy...he preaches to the gullible.

So where is......................
 

Bert Robbins wrote:


Actually, Don, it was two tall Sam's at dinner tonight.


I don't care about your sex life...I'm more concerned about your drinking!

So where is......................
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and
it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job
wherer you could advance on your own merits you had to wait until you
did the time just like the other guys, who were sitting around just
collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"

Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.


Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?

Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell people what you do for a living.



That's easy...he preaches to the gullible.


I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are willing
to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always probing
others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.



Up yours.

So where is......................
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part time,
20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and it was
the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job wherer you
could advance on your own merits you had to wait until you did the time
just like the other guys, who were sitting around just collecting a
paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"

Sure I can quantify it, but why?

I knew you wouldn't put a specific number out. It is not in your nature
to be honest.

You want to know the length of my penis, too?

You do have a fixation your you bowels and genitals.

Two things I think it inappropriate to discuss in a public forum: one's
particular religious beliefs and one's specific income.

Why? You have no problem discussing others religious beliefs and their
income. You must be ashamed of or insecure in your religious beliefs and
your income must be so low as to be embarrassing.


By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.

My part time job was converted to full time the day I graduated from HS.
Working as a civilian in government is a job. Serving in the US military
is an honor and privilege.

Whatever makes you feel good about it, eh, Bert? If you were in the
military, you were a federal employee. You received your pay and bennies
from the government, just like any other federal employee. There's nothing
wrong with that, though you seem to think there is.

No, I deem it a privilege to serve one's country in its military because it
is being done for a higher cause. The pay in the military sucks, most of the
duty stations suck, the working conditions suck and the time away from your
family sucks. For the first 10 years of my life my Dad was at sea or in
Vietnam for 7 of those years.

So where is......................
 

Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
Don,

You really should not make fun of Harry, he will start to attack you, your
city and your accent, your lifestyle etc..

I for one enjoy people with different perspectives and outlooks on the
world, so it is better if you poke some fun at me. I enjoy your humor.


The Rev won't like it if you dismiss him like that. He demands a heavy
penance.

The "secretive" righties here.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and
it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job
wherer you could advance on your own merits you had to wait until
you did the time just like the other guys, who were sitting around
just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"
Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join
the marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply
traded one for another. Soldiering is a government job.

Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?
Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell people what you do for a living.

And why do you need to know that information?

Why does Bert or anyone else here need to know my annual earnings?

I was curious at one point at what you did for a living. Not where you
worked, but whether you were an Indian chief, a rug salesman, or
whatever. It was just curiosity. Why, do you think if you told me you
were sales manager for company that made processing products, that would
be too revealing? You, Smithers, Robbins, and the rest of the righties
are very, very close about yourselves, but you sure don't mind talking
in depth about the lives of others...right?



Nope.


Well, well, well, a bit of honesty at last. You and your gang enjoy
talking up the lives of others, but you sure want to keep your lives a
secret.

And you have the gumption to ask me why I won't tell Bert what I earn?

Thanks. I needed a smile.

Interesting new subject to this thread.

I have put it out in front of everybody and I am a "rightie", no secrets
from me. On the other hand you are so secretive that you will not tell
anyone anything about yourself that has occured within the last 35 years.

So where is......................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


Actually, Don, it was two tall Sam's at dinner tonight.
I don't care about your sex life...I'm more concerned about your drinking!

Why do you have to turn everything into a discussion about sex? Are you
insecure about your sexuality?

So where is......................
 

Harry Krause wrote:


I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are
willing to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always
probing others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.

Hertvik is a perfect case in point. And, of course, the classics are
Skipper and Smithers, the conjoined bottom-feeders.



All part of their little control game.

So where is......................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:


I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are willing
to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always probing
others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.

Hertvik is a perfect case in point. And, of course, the classics are
Skipper and Smithers, the conjoined bottom-feeders.



All part of their little control game.

Ok, Don, why don't you tell us how much money you earn each year, what your
job is and what your religious beliefs are and what your political beliefs
are?

Get the whole thing started and prove the "righties" to have a double
standard.

So where is......................
 

JimH,
It is funny that Harry always wants to know personal info about others, but
his response when asked any personal info about his life it is "Up Yours".
; )


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and
it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job
wherer you could advance on your own merits you had to wait until
you did the time just like the other guys, who were sitting around
just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"

Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join
the marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply
traded one for another. Soldiering is a government job.


Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?

Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell people what you do for a living.



That's easy...he preaches to the gullible.


I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are willing
to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always probing
others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.



Up yours.

So where is......................
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:


I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are willing
to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always probing
others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.

Hertvik is a perfect case in point. And, of course, the classics are
Skipper and Smithers, the conjoined bottom-feeders.



All part of their little control game.


Ok, Don, why don't you tell us how much money you earn each year, what your
job is and what your religious beliefs are and what your political beliefs
are?

Get the whole thing started and prove the "righties" to have a double
standard.


Why do you have to turn everything into a discussion about earnings? Are
you insecure about your earnings?

So where is......................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:


I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are
willing to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always
probing others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.

Hertvik is a perfect case in point. And, of course, the classics are
Skipper and Smithers, the conjoined bottom-feeders.



All part of their little control game.


Ok, Don, why don't you tell us how much money you earn each year, what
your job is and what your religious beliefs are and what your political
beliefs are?

Get the whole thing started and prove the "righties" to have a double
standard.


Why do you have to turn everything into a discussion about earnings? Are
you insecure about your earnings?

Obviously not, I have told you what I earned last year. Are you intimidated
by what I earned last year? Does it make you feel insecure that I earned
more money than you? It makes Harry insecure about what I earned last year.
Now Harry knows that when I say I earned more than him it is the truth.

Come Don, if you are going to castigate the "righties" about being secretive
the least you can do is to prove that you are not being secretive.

So where is......................
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:29:37 GMT, DownTime
wrote:


A little marina resort on Captiva island.

===================================

Tween Waters?

Good guess and very close. Jensen's is the place.


==========================

Yes, the one to the north with cottages I believe?

Yes, the cottages are on the bay side, along with a small marina.

The "secretive" righties here.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine
and it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a
government job wherer you could advance on your own merits you
had to wait until you did the time just like the other guys, who
were sitting around just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"
Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join
the marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply
traded one for another. Soldiering is a government job.

Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?
Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t
even tell people what you do for a living.
And why do you need to know that information?
Why does Bert or anyone else here need to know my annual earnings?

I was curious at one point at what you did for a living. Not where you
worked, but whether you were an Indian chief, a rug salesman, or
whatever. It was just curiosity. Why, do you think if you told me you
were sales manager for company that made processing products, that
would be too revealing? You, Smithers, Robbins, and the rest of the
righties are very, very close about yourselves, but you sure don't
mind talking in depth about the lives of others...right?


Nope.

Well, well, well, a bit of honesty at last. You and your gang enjoy
talking up the lives of others, but you sure want to keep your lives a
secret.

And you have the gumption to ask me why I won't tell Bert what I earn?

Thanks. I needed a smile.

Interesting new subject to this thread.

I have put it out in front of everybody and I am a "rightie", no secrets
from me. On the other hand you are so secretive that you will not tell
anyone anything about yourself that has occured within the last 35 years.

That's a rather bizarre posit on your part. Are you unaware of my
political leanings, or the fact that I've been married twice, or that I
live in southern Maryland adjacent to the Bay, or that I work as a
communications consultant for clients in the DC-Baltimore area?

Since you are being so forth coming with you information why don't you tell
us:

1) How much money you earned last year?
2) What your current religous beliefs are?

So where is......................
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


Obviously not, I have told you what I earned last year. Are you
intimidated by what I earned last year? Does it make you feel insecure
that I earned more money than you? It makes Harry insecure about what I
earned last year. Now Harry knows that when I say I earned more than him
it is the truth.


Uh, Bertie, I don't want to burst your balloon, but the last time I earned
as little as you claimed you earned last year was in 1976. That was the
last year I worked for an ad agency in the District of Columbia, and I
earned about $90k the senior account executive. Just as that year was
ending, I opened my own marketing communications company with the help of
business commitments from prospective clients, and completed the following
year, 1977, earning more personally than you claimed you earned last year.

That was what, 28 years ago?

Your claimed earnings of $115,000? Nice, but no big deal in the DC metro
area. There are thousands of GS-15 government employees who earn that
here.

Ok, so what did you earn last year?

So where is......................
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


Obviously not, I have told you what I earned last year. Are you
intimidated by what I earned last year? Does it make you feel insecure
that I earned more money than you? It makes Harry insecure about what
I
earned last year. Now Harry knows that when I say I earned more than
him
it is the truth.


Uh, Bertie, I don't want to burst your balloon, but the last time I
earned
as little as you claimed you earned last year was in 1976. That was the
last year I worked for an ad agency in the District of Columbia, and I
earned about $90k the senior account executive. Just as that year was
ending, I opened my own marketing communications company with the help
of
business commitments from prospective clients, and completed the
following
year, 1977, earning more personally than you claimed you earned last
year.

That was what, 28 years ago?

Your claimed earnings of $115,000? Nice, but no big deal in the DC
metro
area. There are thousands of GS-15 government employees who earn that
here.

Ok, so what did you earn last year?



"Narcissists are grandiose. They live in an artificial self invented from
fantasies of absolute or perfect power, genius, beauty, etc. Normal
people's
fantasies of themselves, their wishful thinking, take the form of
stories --
these stories often come from movies or TV, or from things they've read or
that were read to them as children. They involve a plot, heroic activity
or
great accomplishments or adventu normal people see themselves in
action,
however preposterous or even impossible that action may be -- they see
themselves doing things that earn them honor, glory, love, riches, fame,
and
they see these fantasy selves as personal potentials, however tenuous"

"Narcissistic men can be infatuated with their own looks, too,
............. but are more likely than women to get hung up on their
intelligence or the importance of their work -- doesn't matter what the
work
is, if he's doing it, by definition it's more important than anything you
could possibly do"

"Narcissists don't volunteer the usual personal information about
themselves, so they may seem secretive or perhaps unusually reserved or
very
jealous of their privacy. All these things are true, but with the special
narcissistic twist that, first, their real life isn't interesting to them
so
it doesn't occur to them that it would be interesting to anyone else and,
second, since they have not yet been transfigured into the Star of the
Universe, they're ashamed of their real life. They feel that their jobs,
their friends and families, their homes and possessions aren't good enough
for them, they deserve better. "

The "secretive" righties here.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam
part time, 20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US
Marine and it was the best thing I ever did by getting out of a
government job wherer you could advance on your own merits you
had to wait until you did the time just like the other guys,
who were sitting around just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I
was bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid
'80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"
Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to
join the marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You
simply traded one for another. Soldiering is a government job.

Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?
Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t
even tell people what you do for a living.
And why do you need to know that information?
Why does Bert or anyone else here need to know my annual earnings?

I was curious at one point at what you did for a living. Not where
you worked, but whether you were an Indian chief, a rug salesman, or
whatever. It was just curiosity. Why, do you think if you told me
you were sales manager for company that made processing products,
that would be too revealing? You, Smithers, Robbins, and the rest of
the righties are very, very close about yourselves, but you sure
don't mind talking in depth about the lives of others...right?

Nope.
Well, well, well, a bit of honesty at last. You and your gang enjoy
talking up the lives of others, but you sure want to keep your lives a
secret.

And you have the gumption to ask me why I won't tell Bert what I earn?

Thanks. I needed a smile.
Interesting new subject to this thread.

I have put it out in front of everybody and I am a "rightie", no
secrets from me. On the other hand you are so secretive that you will
not tell anyone anything about yourself that has occured within the
last 35 years.
That's a rather bizarre posit on your part. Are you unaware of my
political leanings, or the fact that I've been married twice, or that I
live in southern Maryland adjacent to the Bay, or that I work as a
communications consultant for clients in the DC-Baltimore area?

Since you are being so forth coming with you information why don't you
tell us:

1) How much money you earned last year?
2) What your current religous beliefs are?

I don't discuss my personal religious beliefs or current earnings in
usenet. I'm a great admirer of His Holiness The Dalai Lama, though. Is
that helpful?

You are a lousey example of what the Dali Lama preaches.

So where is......................
 

Harry Krause wrote:


Ohhhh. You're so slick.


Yes..that Bert is such a con man...he almost had me spilling the beans
on all my private business. (smirk)

He'll have to get up a little earlier in the morning and lay off the
booze if he wants to trick me into telling all.

So where is......................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:


Ohhhh. You're so slick.


Yes..that Bert is such a con man...he almost had me spilling the beans on
all my private business. (smirk)

He'll have to get up a little earlier in the morning and lay off the booze
if he wants to trick me into telling all.


Hey Donny, it looks like you are obsessed with Bert also. Is obsessing on
people your new calling in life Mr. Milquetoast?

So where is......................
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:07:59 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part time, 20
hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and it was the
best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job wherer you could
advance on your own merits you had to wait until you did the time just
like the other guys, who were sitting around just collecting a paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was bringing
home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"

Sure I can quantify it, but why?

I knew you wouldn't put a specific number out. It is not in your nature to
be honest.

You want to know the length of my penis, too?

Two things I think it inappropriate to discuss in a public forum: one's
particular religious beliefs and one's specific income.


By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one for
another. Soldiering is a government job.

My part time job was converted to full time the day I graduated from HS.
Working as a civilian in government is a job. Serving in the US military is
an honor and privilege.

Whatever makes you feel good about it, eh, Bert? If you were in the
military, you were a federal employee. You received your pay and bennies
from the government, just like any other federal employee. There's
nothing wrong with that, though you seem to think there is.

Harry, Harry. There *is* a difference between a civilian government worker and a
soldier, airman, sailor, or marine. Of course you wouldn't know the difference.
But, that's OK.

Oh, and...

All these things are true, but with the special narcissistic twist that, first,
their real life isn't interesting to them so it doesn't occur to them that it
would be interesting to anyone else and, second, since they have not yet been
transfigured into the Star of the Universe, they're ashamed of their real life.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

So where is......................
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:21:11 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part time,
20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and it was
the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job wherer you
could advance on your own merits you had to wait until you did the time
just like the other guys, who were sitting around just collecting a
paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"
Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.


Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?
Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even tell
people what you do for a living.


And why do you need to know that information?


Why does Bert or anyone else here need to know my annual earnings?

I was curious at one point at what you did for a living. Not where you
worked, but whether you were an Indian chief, a rug salesman, or
whatever. It was just curiosity. Why, do you think if you told me you
were sales manager for company that made processing products, that would
be too revealing? You, Smithers, Robbins, and the rest of the righties
are very, very close about yourselves, but you sure don't mind talking
in depth about the lives of others...right?

Harry, you are renowned for taking a sliver of personal information and using it
for the most nefarious purposes.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

So where is......................
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:16:25 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

I find it intriguing that virtually none of the righties here are
willing to reveal much of anything about themselves, but they are always
probing others for information they can use later.

The best response to any of the secretive righties who want information?
Up yours.

Hertvik is a perfect case in point. And, of course, the classics are
Skipper and Smithers, the conjoined bottom-feeders.


Wow. To a 'T'!

The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal of her/his
divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months (i.e., the next
time the narcissist needs to use you for something) -- the narcissist will
expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to return to the fold. If
you have learned your lesson, you won't answer that call. They can't see that
they have a problem; it's always somebody else who has the problem and needs to
change. Therapies work at all only when the individual wants to change and,
though narcissists hate their real selves, they don't want to change -- they
want the world to change. * And they criticize, gripe, and complain about almost
everything and almost everyone almost all the time.*
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

So where is......................
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:21:11 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, we both worked jobs when we were teens. Big deal.
I was still in high school when I was working for Uncle Sam part
time,
20 hours per week. I gave it all up to become a US Marine and it was
the best thing I ever did by getting out of a government job wherer
you
could advance on your own merits you had to wait until you did the
time
just like the other guys, who were sitting around just collecting a
paycheck.

I was the manager of a QA team when I was 25 years old and I was
bringing home $40K per year. Pretty good mone for the mid '80's.

So, can you quantify "considerably more?"
Sure I can quantify it, but why?

By the way, when you gave up your part-time government job to join
the
marines, you didn't get out of a government job. You simply traded
one
for another. Soldiering is a government job.


Why not answer his question instead of attacking him Harry?
Why should I reveal what my annual earnings are? Hell, you won;t even
tell
people what you do for a living.


And why do you need to know that information?


Why does Bert or anyone else here need to know my annual earnings?

I was curious at one point at what you did for a living. Not where you
worked, but whether you were an Indian chief, a rug salesman, or
whatever. It was just curiosity. Why, do you think if you told me you
were sales manager for company that made processing products, that would
be too revealing? You, Smithers, Robbins, and the rest of the righties
are very, very close about yourselves, but you sure don't mind talking
in depth about the lives of others...right?

Harry, you are renowned for taking a sliver of personal information and
using it
for the most nefarious purposes.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Yep.

So where is......................
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:27:13 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

--
Religious fundamentalism: a threat abroad, a threat at home.

Especially those Christian liberals, right?


--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

So where is......................
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:10:22 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:

Actually, Don, it was two tall Sam's at dinner tonight.
I don't care about your sex life...I'm more concerned about your drinking!

Why do you have to turn everything into a discussion about sex? Are you
insecure about your sexuality?




We talk about sex from time to time because sex talk drives righties up
a wall.

Do you *really* believe your sexual proclivities, expressed in any manner,
'drive righties up the wall'?

It may cause some to wonder about you, but I strongly doubt you are 'bothering'
anyone. Here's an interesting tale that may be pertinent:

Appearances are all there is with narcissists -- and their self-hatred knows no
bounds. The most dramatic example I can think of is from John Cheever's
journals. Throughout his life he had pursued surreptitious homosexual
activities, being transiently infatuated with young men who reminded him of
himself in his youth, while also living in a superficially settled way as a
married family man, a respected writer with an enviable suburban life, breeding
pedigreed dogs and serving on the vestry of the Episcopal church. When his
secret life (going to New York City for a few days every now and then to pick up
sailors and other beautiful boys for brief flings) came to scandalous light, his
family sought to reassure him by telling him that they'd known about his
homosexual activities for years. Now, a normal person would be ashamed and
embarrassed but also relieved and grateful that scandal, not to mention chronic
emotional and marital infidelity, had not caused his wife and children to reject
and abandon him -- but not the narcissist! Oh, no, Cheever was enraged that they
would ever have thought such a thing of him -- if they really loved him, they'd
have bought his artificial "country squire" persona: they would have seen him as
he wished to be seen: they would have believed his lies without question or
doubt.

--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

So where is......................
 

*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:


Ohhhh. You're so slick.


Yes..that Bert is such a con man...he almost had me spilling the beans on
all my private business. (smirk)

He'll have to get up a little earlier in the morning and lay off the booze
if he wants to trick me into telling all.



Hey Donny, it looks like you are obsessed with Bert also. Is obsessing on
people your new calling in life Mr. Milquetoast?



Hey Jimmy, it looks like you are obsessed with me also. Is obsessing on
people your new calling in life Mr. Milquetoast?

So where is......................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:


Ohhhh. You're so slick.


Yes..that Bert is such a con man...he almost had me spilling the beans on
all my private business. (smirk)

He'll have to get up a little earlier in the morning and lay off the
booze if he wants to trick me into telling all.



Hey Donny, it looks like you are obsessed with Bert also. Is obsessing
on people your new calling in life Mr. Milquetoast?

Hey Jimmy, it looks like you are obsessed with me also.


Not at all. I do not reply to you unless you hurl an insult my way. You
have not offered much else to this NG other than insults, name calling and
telling Harry he is right.

So where is......................
 

*JimH* wrote:

Not at all. I do not reply to you unless you hurl an insult my way. You
have not offered much else to this NG other than insults, name calling and
telling Harry he is right.


Are you for real?
You stuck your nose in after I make a comment to Bert. That's what
started this latest round of foolishness.

So where is......................
 

Harry,
You already discussed how much you made in 1974. You discuss any story you
think will boost your weak ego. Have you made many trips to NYC looking for
sailors?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Obviously not, I have told you what I earned last year. Are you
intimidated by what I earned last year? Does it make you feel insecure
that I earned more money than you? It makes Harry insecure about what I
earned last year. Now Harry knows that when I say I earned more than
him it is the truth.

Uh, Bertie, I don't want to burst your balloon, but the last time I
earned as little as you claimed you earned last year was in 1976. That
was the last year I worked for an ad agency in the District of Columbia,
and I earned about $90k the senior account executive. Just as that year
was ending, I opened my own marketing communications company with the
help of business commitments from prospective clients, and completed the
following year, 1977, earning more personally than you claimed you
earned last year.

That was what, 28 years ago?

Your claimed earnings of $115,000? Nice, but no big deal in the DC metro
area. There are thousands of GS-15 government employees who earn that
here.

Ok, so what did you earn last year?




Do you have trouble understanding simple, declarative sentences in
English?

Let's try again:

1. I do not discuss my personal religious beliefs on usenet.
2. I do not discuss my personal income on usenet.

Got it?


--
Bush Healthcare Plan: Just don't get sick.

So where is......................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Not at all. I do not reply to you unless you hurl an insult my way. You
have not offered much else to this NG other than insults, name calling
and telling Harry he is right.

Are you for real?
You stuck your nose in after I make a comment to Bert. That's what started
this latest round of foolishness.

Actually my response should have said "unless you hurl and insult my way or
towards others".

Take a look at any thread Don. I generally don't respond to you (other than
the conditions I posted) unless I offer a compliment to you or ask you about
your mother. I have really tried to be nice to you.......and you know it.
But at this point I give up.

Keep up the nasties Don. It suits you.

So where is......................
 

*JimH* wrote:

Actually my response should have said "unless you hurl and insult my way or
towards others".

Take a look at any thread Don. I generally don't respond to you (other than
the conditions I posted) unless I offer a compliment to you or ask you about
your mother. I have really tried to be nice to you.......and you know it.
But at this point I give up.

Keep up the nasties Don. It suits you.



Thank you.

So where is......................
 

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
. ..
Harry,
You already discussed how much you made in 1974. You discuss any story
you think will boost your weak ego. Have you made many trips to NYC
looking for sailors?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Obviously not, I have told you what I earned last year. Are you
intimidated by what I earned last year? Does it make you feel insecure
that I earned more money than you? It makes Harry insecure about what
I earned last year. Now Harry knows that when I say I earned more than
him it is the truth.

Uh, Bertie, I don't want to burst your balloon, but the last time I
earned as little as you claimed you earned last year was in 1976. That
was the last year I worked for an ad agency in the District of
Columbia, and I earned about $90k the senior account executive.

Harry has made more money than anyone in this NG, even dating back to 1976
when (he claimed) he was earning $205,830 /year (2005 dollars). Not bad
for a recent college grad.

LOL!