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My old assertion that Bush hid intel...TRUE
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:12:01 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: There have been more revelations about the intel the Bush Administration did not share with Democratic members of Congress. This is another news story that is going to dog Bush, who is now in the People's Republic of China to see how many more American jobs he can give away. Or whatever he is doing over there. Your use of the term 'news story' says it all. Yes, John, that's what they are called. -- Real Christians are liberal. To True, I prefer to teach a man how to fish rather than to just give him a fish that I magically create (government accounting practices). Somewhere someone pays and we don't all have direct connections to anti-entropy (God). I guess that makes me a enlightened liberal = Republican-libertarian-fiscally conservative-humanist Real people can't be labeled. |
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My old assertion that Bush hid intel...TRUE
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:28:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Jeff Rigby wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:12:01 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: There have been more revelations about the intel the Bush Administration did not share with Democratic members of Congress. This is another news story that is going to dog Bush, who is now in the People's Republic of China to see how many more American jobs he can give away. Or whatever he is doing over there. Your use of the term 'news story' says it all. Yes, John, that's what they are called. -- Real Christians are liberal. To True, I prefer to teach a man how to fish rather than to just give him a fish that I magically create (government accounting practices). Somewhere someone pays and we don't all have direct connections to anti-entropy (God). I guess that makes me a enlightened liberal = Republican-libertarian-fiscally conservative-humanist Real people can't be labeled. If you are going after government accounting practices, don't forget corporate accounting practices. There are no bigger crooks than publicly traded corporations. Where's JimH with some more union stories? -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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My old assertion that Bush hid intel...TRUE
"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:28:02 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Jeff Rigby wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:12:01 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: There have been more revelations about the intel the Bush Administration did not share with Democratic members of Congress. This is another news story that is going to dog Bush, who is now in the People's Republic of China to see how many more American jobs he can give away. Or whatever he is doing over there. Your use of the term 'news story' says it all. Yes, John, that's what they are called. -- Real Christians are liberal. To True, I prefer to teach a man how to fish rather than to just give him a fish that I magically create (government accounting practices). Somewhere someone pays and we don't all have direct connections to anti-entropy (God). I guess that makes me a enlightened liberal = Republican-libertarian-fiscally conservative-humanist Real people can't be labeled. If you are going after government accounting practices, don't forget corporate accounting practices. There are no bigger crooks than publicly traded corporations. Where's JimH with some more union stories? Here are a few...................... TEAMSTERS (IBT) Virginia Beach Ex-Bookkeeper Pleads Guilty to Embezzlement For nearly a half decade Marcia Huizenga thought nobody would figure out how all those extra paychecks managed to get cashed. But in the end somebody did figure it out. Huizenga, 48, formerly bookkeeper for Teamsters Local 822, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on November 4 to embezzling more than $47,000 in union funds. A routine audit by the local discovered that from January 1999 to August 2003 she had prepared and cashed 77 extra paychecks for her own personal use. Huizenga did not dispute the charge when confronted with the evidence. Local 822 represents about 2,000 meat cutters, barbers, warehouse workers and other tradesmen in the Virginia Tidewater area. (Associated Press, 11/5). LABORERS (LIUNA) Niagara Falls Menace Sentenced; He's in Good Company The halls of justice have claimed another member of LIUNA Local 91's criminal old guard that for a good half-dozen years terrorized nonunion workers at Niagara Falls-area constructions sites. This November 2, Salvatore Spatorico, 58, received a 27-month sentence in U.S. District Court. He'd assaulted a truck driver at the behest of local leaders back in April 1998. Spatarico joins five local members already convicted of racketeering conspiracy, including its president, Robert Malvestuto, Jr., and executive board member Patrick McKeown. (Associated Press, 11/2). BAKERY & TOBACCO WORKERS (BC&T) Pittsburgh-Area Benefit Fund Administrator Arraigned Marilyn Constable must be an incurable optimist. The suburban Pittsburgh woman in late September was indicted by a federal grand jury on 15 counts of embezzlement. Ms. Constable, 45, allegedly wrote out a dozen illegal checks totaling more than $7,500 from a death-benefits fund for members of Local 12 of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers union. She has pleaded not guilty. The union, which represented employees at a now-closed Nabisco plant and elsewhere, since has merged into BC&T Local 19 in Cleveland. The indictment charged that Constable, as the fund administrator, diverted local funds for rent, cable TV, and other personal expenses. Additionally, she was named last year in an ongoing Labor Department civil complaint seeking restitution. The suit also named as defendants Local 19, two banks and several union and bakery industry officials who acted as trustees. (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/26). MACHINISTS (IAM) Former Secretary-Treasurer in California Pleads Guilty On October 21, William Good Jr., ex-financial secretary-treasurer of Local Lodge 821 of the International Association of Machinists, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California to two counts of embezzling union funds totaling $192,469. The guilty plea follows an investigation by the Labor Department's Office of Labor-Management Standards and Office of Inspector General. (OLMS, 11/10). POSTAL WORKERS Ex-Treasurer in Maryland Sentenced, Ordered to Pay Restitution On October 18, Steven R. Fairfax, formerly secretary-treasurer of Branch 3939 of the National Association of Letter Carriers, was sentenced in U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland to five years of probation and 10 months of home confinement for embezzlement of union funds. He also will have to make restitution to the union in the amount of $53,990.04. He had been indicted this March. The sentencing follows an investigation by the Department of Labor (OLMS, 11/10). GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (AFGE) Oklahoma Man Indicted for Embezzlement and Check Fraud On November 7, Jerry T. LeBlanc, a Tulsa resident and former president of Local 2250 of the American Federation of Government Employees, was indicted in federal court in Muskogee for union fund embezzlement and check fraud totaling about $46,000. (Muskogee Phoenix, 11/9; other sources). INDEPENDENT GUARDS Ex-Local Boss in Tennessee Indicted for False Record-Keeping On October 19, Edward Dupree, formerly president of Local 138 of the Independent Guards Union of North America, was indicted on one count of making false entries in union records. The indictment follows an investigation by the Labor Department's OLMS Nashville District Office. (OLMS, 11/10). -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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My old assertion that Bush hid intel...TRUE
Thanks. Harry needed that!
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:39:10 -0500, "P Fritz" wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:28:02 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Jeff Rigby wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:12:01 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: There have been more revelations about the intel the Bush Administration did not share with Democratic members of Congress. This is another news story that is going to dog Bush, who is now in the People's Republic of China to see how many more American jobs he can give away. Or whatever he is doing over there. Your use of the term 'news story' says it all. Yes, John, that's what they are called. -- Real Christians are liberal. To True, I prefer to teach a man how to fish rather than to just give him a fish that I magically create (government accounting practices). Somewhere someone pays and we don't all have direct connections to anti-entropy (God). I guess that makes me a enlightened liberal = Republican-libertarian-fiscally conservative-humanist Real people can't be labeled. If you are going after government accounting practices, don't forget corporate accounting practices. There are no bigger crooks than publicly traded corporations. Where's JimH with some more union stories? Here are a few...................... TEAMSTERS (IBT) Virginia Beach Ex-Bookkeeper Pleads Guilty to Embezzlement For nearly a half decade Marcia Huizenga thought nobody would figure out how all those extra paychecks managed to get cashed. But in the end somebody did figure it out. Huizenga, 48, formerly bookkeeper for Teamsters Local 822, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on November 4 to embezzling more than $47,000 in union funds. A routine audit by the local discovered that from January 1999 to August 2003 she had prepared and cashed 77 extra paychecks for her own personal use. Huizenga did not dispute the charge when confronted with the evidence. Local 822 represents about 2,000 meat cutters, barbers, warehouse workers and other tradesmen in the Virginia Tidewater area. (Associated Press, 11/5). LABORERS (LIUNA) Niagara Falls Menace Sentenced; He's in Good Company The halls of justice have claimed another member of LIUNA Local 91's criminal old guard that for a good half-dozen years terrorized nonunion workers at Niagara Falls-area constructions sites. This November 2, Salvatore Spatorico, 58, received a 27-month sentence in U.S. District Court. He'd assaulted a truck driver at the behest of local leaders back in April 1998. Spatarico joins five local members already convicted of racketeering conspiracy, including its president, Robert Malvestuto, Jr., and executive board member Patrick McKeown. (Associated Press, 11/2). BAKERY & TOBACCO WORKERS (BC&T) Pittsburgh-Area Benefit Fund Administrator Arraigned Marilyn Constable must be an incurable optimist. The suburban Pittsburgh woman in late September was indicted by a federal grand jury on 15 counts of embezzlement. Ms. Constable, 45, allegedly wrote out a dozen illegal checks totaling more than $7,500 from a death-benefits fund for members of Local 12 of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers union. She has pleaded not guilty. The union, which represented employees at a now-closed Nabisco plant and elsewhere, since has merged into BC&T Local 19 in Cleveland. The indictment charged that Constable, as the fund administrator, diverted local funds for rent, cable TV, and other personal expenses. Additionally, she was named last year in an ongoing Labor Department civil complaint seeking restitution. The suit also named as defendants Local 19, two banks and several union and bakery industry officials who acted as trustees. (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/26). MACHINISTS (IAM) Former Secretary-Treasurer in California Pleads Guilty On October 21, William Good Jr., ex-financial secretary-treasurer of Local Lodge 821 of the International Association of Machinists, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California to two counts of embezzling union funds totaling $192,469. The guilty plea follows an investigation by the Labor Department's Office of Labor-Management Standards and Office of Inspector General. (OLMS, 11/10). POSTAL WORKERS Ex-Treasurer in Maryland Sentenced, Ordered to Pay Restitution On October 18, Steven R. Fairfax, formerly secretary-treasurer of Branch 3939 of the National Association of Letter Carriers, was sentenced in U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland to five years of probation and 10 months of home confinement for embezzlement of union funds. He also will have to make restitution to the union in the amount of $53,990.04. He had been indicted this March. The sentencing follows an investigation by the Department of Labor (OLMS, 11/10). GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (AFGE) Oklahoma Man Indicted for Embezzlement and Check Fraud On November 7, Jerry T. LeBlanc, a Tulsa resident and former president of Local 2250 of the American Federation of Government Employees, was indicted in federal court in Muskogee for union fund embezzlement and check fraud totaling about $46,000. (Muskogee Phoenix, 11/9; other sources). INDEPENDENT GUARDS Ex-Local Boss in Tennessee Indicted for False Record-Keeping On October 19, Edward Dupree, formerly president of Local 138 of the Independent Guards Union of North America, was indicted on one count of making false entries in union records. The indictment follows an investigation by the Labor Department's OLMS Nashville District Office. (OLMS, 11/10). -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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My old assertion that Bush hid intel...TRUE
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:50:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: P Fritz wrote: TEAMSTERS (IBT) Virginia Beach Ex-Bookkeeper Pleads Guilty to Embezzlement For nearly a half decade Marcia Huizenga thought nobody would figure out how all those extra paychecks managed to get cashed. But in the end somebody did figure it out. Huizenga, 48, formerly bookkeeper for Teamsters Local 822, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on November 4 to embezzling more than $47,000 in union funds. A routine audit by the local discovered that from January 1999 to August 2003 she had prepared and cashed 77 extra paychecks for her own personal use. Huizenga did not dispute the charge when confronted with the evidence. Local 822 represents about 2,000 meat cutters, barbers, warehouse workers and other tradesmen in the Virginia Tidewater area. (Associated Press, 11/5). Most of these people get caught, indicted, and then convicted not because of "the law," but because union officials who handle money or who can direct expenditures are required by union bylaws to be "bonded." When I was a union officer many decades ago, I was "bonded" for $1 million, even though the budget under my direct control was only about 10 per cent of that amount. If there is even a suspicion of wrongdoing, the bonding company steps in. It has to make good the losses (that's the real purpose of the bond), AND it makes damned sure the local prosecutors go after the perpetrators AND go for the throat. Thus, union officials who engage in financial crookedness go to jail usually, and the money that was lost is either recovered or the losses are made good by the bonding company. Because of the aggressiveness of bonding companies, you hear more about the occasional union thief than you do the far more common corporate thief. But, of course, if you are a simple-minded rightie, as most who post here are, you believe corporations are honest and unions are not. All the union official "theft" in history doesn't not add up to one week's thievery committed by publicly held corporations. Most of them were corrupt as hell. Actually, there are no bigger crooks than the corrupt union officials in this country. -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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Harry,
Why does the FBI and the Justice Dept. disagree with your assessment of the Union's and the Mob? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:50:33 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: P Fritz wrote: TEAMSTERS (IBT) Virginia Beach Ex-Bookkeeper Pleads Guilty to Embezzlement For nearly a half decade Marcia Huizenga thought nobody would figure out how all those extra paychecks managed to get cashed. But in the end somebody did figure it out. Huizenga, 48, formerly bookkeeper for Teamsters Local 822, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on November 4 to embezzling more than $47,000 in union funds. A routine audit by the local discovered that from January 1999 to August 2003 she had prepared and cashed 77 extra paychecks for her own personal use. Huizenga did not dispute the charge when confronted with the evidence. Local 822 represents about 2,000 meat cutters, barbers, warehouse workers and other tradesmen in the Virginia Tidewater area. (Associated Press, 11/5). Most of these people get caught, indicted, and then convicted not because of "the law," but because union officials who handle money or who can direct expenditures are required by union bylaws to be "bonded." When I was a union officer many decades ago, I was "bonded" for $1 million, even though the budget under my direct control was only about 10 per cent of that amount. If there is even a suspicion of wrongdoing, the bonding company steps in. It has to make good the losses (that's the real purpose of the bond), AND it makes damned sure the local prosecutors go after the perpetrators AND go for the throat. Thus, union officials who engage in financial crookedness go to jail usually, and the money that was lost is either recovered or the losses are made good by the bonding company. Because of the aggressiveness of bonding companies, you hear more about the occasional union thief than you do the far more common corporate thief. But, of course, if you are a simple-minded rightie, as most who post here are, you believe corporations are honest and unions are not. All the union official "theft" in history doesn't not add up to one week's thievery committed by publicly held corporations. Most of them were corrupt as hell. Actually, there are no bigger crooks than the corrupt union officials in this country. What an absurd posit, but I would expect nothing less from the co-chair of the "Obsessed with Harry Club." Bet you were more fun before you gave up booze, eh? -- Bush deserves a fair trial! |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:56:49 -0500, "Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my
knighthood. wrote: Harry, Why does the FBI and the Justice Dept. disagree with your assessment of the Union's and the Mob? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:50:33 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: P Fritz wrote: TEAMSTERS (IBT) Virginia Beach Ex-Bookkeeper Pleads Guilty to Embezzlement For nearly a half decade Marcia Huizenga thought nobody would figure out how all those extra paychecks managed to get cashed. But in the end somebody did figure it out. Huizenga, 48, formerly bookkeeper for Teamsters Local 822, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on November 4 to embezzling more than $47,000 in union funds. A routine audit by the local discovered that from January 1999 to August 2003 she had prepared and cashed 77 extra paychecks for her own personal use. Huizenga did not dispute the charge when confronted with the evidence. Local 822 represents about 2,000 meat cutters, barbers, warehouse workers and other tradesmen in the Virginia Tidewater area. (Associated Press, 11/5). Most of these people get caught, indicted, and then convicted not because of "the law," but because union officials who handle money or who can direct expenditures are required by union bylaws to be "bonded." When I was a union officer many decades ago, I was "bonded" for $1 million, even though the budget under my direct control was only about 10 per cent of that amount. If there is even a suspicion of wrongdoing, the bonding company steps in. It has to make good the losses (that's the real purpose of the bond), AND it makes damned sure the local prosecutors go after the perpetrators AND go for the throat. Thus, union officials who engage in financial crookedness go to jail usually, and the money that was lost is either recovered or the losses are made good by the bonding company. Because of the aggressiveness of bonding companies, you hear more about the occasional union thief than you do the far more common corporate thief. But, of course, if you are a simple-minded rightie, as most who post here are, you believe corporations are honest and unions are not. All the union official "theft" in history doesn't not add up to one week's thievery committed by publicly held corporations. Most of them were corrupt as hell. Actually, there are no bigger crooks than the corrupt union officials in this country. What an absurd posit, but I would expect nothing less from the co-chair of the "Obsessed with Harry Club." Bet you were more fun before you gave up booze, eh? -- Bush deserves a fair trial! He'll answer in a minute. He has to pretend he didn't see your post, and then he has to leave the full length mirror next to his desk. -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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Harry is just a union corruption appologist.
LMAO "John H." wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:50:33 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: P Fritz wrote: TEAMSTERS (IBT) Virginia Beach Ex-Bookkeeper Pleads Guilty to Embezzlement For nearly a half decade Marcia Huizenga thought nobody would figure out how all those extra paychecks managed to get cashed. But in the end somebody did figure it out. Huizenga, 48, formerly bookkeeper for Teamsters Local 822, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on November 4 to embezzling more than $47,000 in union funds. A routine audit by the local discovered that from January 1999 to August 2003 she had prepared and cashed 77 extra paychecks for her own personal use. Huizenga did not dispute the charge when confronted with the evidence. Local 822 represents about 2,000 meat cutters, barbers, warehouse workers and other tradesmen in the Virginia Tidewater area. (Associated Press, 11/5). Most of these people get caught, indicted, and then convicted not because of "the law," but because union officials who handle money or who can direct expenditures are required by union bylaws to be "bonded." When I was a union officer many decades ago, I was "bonded" for $1 million, even though the budget under my direct control was only about 10 per cent of that amount. If there is even a suspicion of wrongdoing, the bonding company steps in. It has to make good the losses (that's the real purpose of the bond), AND it makes damned sure the local prosecutors go after the perpetrators AND go for the throat. Thus, union officials who engage in financial crookedness go to jail usually, and the money that was lost is either recovered or the losses are made good by the bonding company. Because of the aggressiveness of bonding companies, you hear more about the occasional union thief than you do the far more common corporate thief. But, of course, if you are a simple-minded rightie, as most who post here are, you believe corporations are honest and unions are not. All the union official "theft" in history doesn't not add up to one week's thievery committed by publicly held corporations. Most of them were corrupt as hell. Actually, there are no bigger crooks than the corrupt union officials in this country. -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" A Famous Hypocrite |
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