Dan J.S. wrote:
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Worked just as well when the Christian Europeans slaughtered 30,000
Arabs within a quarter of a sqaure mile inside the city walls of
Jerusalem during the first crusade- if you want to go back that far
into history.

Are you blaming the Great Fire of London (1666) on "Arabs"? How
amusing- if you are.

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth.

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ps.com...

Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?

"Dan J.S." wrote
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?


I'm waiting to learn the details too. Enquiring minds want to know!

But I think the reason we are ignorant of this little true-history
nugget is that we must have missed the latest broadcast from Planet
Bozo-Moronia.

DSK

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:29:58 -0600, Skipper wrote:

wrote:

Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?

Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government.

One wonders what certain unscrupulous French used car salesmen think
while watching thousands of cars burn in the street.

I thought you'd stopped that!
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
"Dan J.S." wrote
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?

I'm waiting to learn the details too. Enquiring minds want to know!

But I think the reason we are ignorant of this little true-history nugget
is that we must have missed the latest broadcast from Planet Bozo-Moronia.

DSK


Either that, or Spain is equal to half of Europe. Can't wait to learn Moor.
:-)

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


Actually Chuck may be right. France is an economic disaster. Almost all
the public union strikes are over the government trying to add a couple of
years more working time before the people retire. In something like 10-15
years, there will be only 2 workers for every retired worker. Think that
will be sustainable? France just happens to be the worst, but lots of
European countries are in the same boat. Naples has a 37% unemployment.
Most likely the reason it is one of the most dangerous cities in Italy
(besides the taxi drivers).

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Dan J.S. wrote:
It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!


???

Could you explain when & where this happened, please?


His greatest success came on September 12, 1683 as victor at the Battle of
Vienna, with Polish, Austrian and German troops, once more against the Turks
under Kara Mustafa. The pope and other foreign dignitaries then hailed
Sobieski as the "Savior of Vienna and Western European civilization." In a
letter to his wife he wrote, ...All the common people kissed my hands, my
feet, my clothes; others only touched me, saying: Ach, let us kiss so
valiant a hand!".



Turning point of when the Turks backed off.

Doug Kanter wrote:
Either that, or Spain is equal to half of Europe. Can't wait to learn Moor.
:-)


Good point, 1/2 is the wrong fraction, but I was thinking of veinna it
happened, too.

Still, the wrong century by a couple. Surely the right-wingnut history
bund of rec.boats can tell time better than that??

DSK

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Dan J.S." wrote in message
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Sammy wrote:
Wow, I thought social unrest was impossible under democratic socialism?


Nah. It's just not moved to a designated "protest zone" where the high
rollin' elite and right wing political candidates don't have to see it.

Don't forget what that old communist, Thomas Jefferson, preached. Every
so often it is healthy for the people to rise up, take control of, and
reform the government. We may be seeing the beginnings of that process
in France, and that should make all the "We-hate-France-because-the
French-didn't-fall-for-the-WMD-propaganda-and-join-the-invasion-of-Iraq"
crowd extremely happy.


It worked really well when the Arabs burned down half of Europe in the
1600s... ****ing idiot!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


I'm ready for a history lesson. Half of Europe? Which half?


read about Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha

Are you blaming the Great Fire of London (1666) on "Arabs"? How
amusing- if you are.

I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth.


I apologize for swearing at you... I just get all up in arms when Islam
comes up.