On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:01:59 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.

Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

Strong return argument Len.

There is nothing to return arguments on Jim

"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:01:59 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.

Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

Strong return argument Len.

There is nothing to return arguments on Jim

I agree. What you presented are not fact.

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:21:07 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:01:59 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.

Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

Strong return argument Len.

There is nothing to return arguments on Jim

I agree. What you presented are not fact.

Sigh.
Fact: Reagan was accidentally in office when a true leader like
Gorbatsjow entered the circustent.
Fact: It was Gorbatsjow bringing Glasnost and Perestrojka
Fact: It was Gorbatsjow who caused things to happen. Reagan-fans tend
to place the emphasis on Reagan but please, gimme a break Gorbatsjow
was the only one capable of setting things in motion.
Fact: Reagan started serious overspending to please the campaign
supporting industries (Star Wars).
Fact: simultaneously: large tax reduction that would (in his advisors
dreams) would deminish the deficit. "Supply side economics", remember?
AKA Voodoo economics.
Fact: the remaining large deficit still exists and the rich became
richer.
Fact: The rep's won't raise taxes
Fact/deduction: therefore the democrats wil have to raise taxes to
lessen the risk of a totally bankrupted american economy.
Fact: By devaluation of the dollar the whole world pays for the
expensive evangelical risk-game of mr Bush.
(excuse me for adding a biased term in the end of the last sentence)

Regards, Len.

"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:21:07 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:01:59 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.

Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

Strong return argument Len.

There is nothing to return arguments on Jim

I agree. What you presented are not fact.

Sigh.
Fact: Reagan was accidentally in office when a true leader like
Gorbatsjow entered the circustent.
Fact: It was Gorbatsjow bringing Glasnost and Perestrojka
Fact: It was Gorbatsjow who caused things to happen. Reagan-fans tend
to place the emphasis on Reagan but please, gimme a break Gorbatsjow
was the only one capable of setting things in motion.
Fact: Reagan started serious overspending to please the campaign
supporting industries (Star Wars).
Fact: simultaneously: large tax reduction that would (in his advisors
dreams) would deminish the deficit. "Supply side economics", remember?
AKA Voodoo economics.
Fact: the remaining large deficit still exists and the rich became
richer.
Fact: The rep's won't raise taxes
Fact/deduction: therefore the democrats wil have to raise taxes to
lessen the risk of a totally bankrupted american economy.
Fact: By devaluation of the dollar the whole world pays for the
expensive evangelical risk-game of mr Bush.
(excuse me for adding a biased term in the end of the last sentence)

Regards, Len.

Care to support your claims with some proof?

Just because you say so does not make it fact.

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:31:44 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


Care to support your claims with some proof?
Just because you say so does not make it fact.

(Yawn)
Jim, you act like a boring child repeating a senseless question.
But the fact you're accompanied by so many alikes makes it necessary
to go on....
These aren't just claims or statements, they are facts.
You can look 'm up....

I'll try to enlighten you (mission impossible iii)
What is a fact?
Gorbatsjov was the person who had the right intentions up front and
grabbed his chance to stop a dynasty of dictators and reform with all
respect due to human values. He luckily had the chance during the last
days of a "week" man like tsjernenkov.
Whatever president of he us, Eastern Europe would have changed like it
did.

I'll also tell you what a (dumb and manipulative) statement is.
The statement that "it was Reagan who had scared the russian crooks so
bad that Gornatsjov had no choice but to abandon the reign of evil and
become friends with the great world leader".
My goodness, this is funny.... And to know that there are people who
actually believe that.... Alzheimer kicks in hard and early I
guess.... ....

Gorby was definitely a unique leader with outstanding vision, especially
when you consider Russian history.


"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:31:44 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


Care to support your claims with some proof?
Just because you say so does not make it fact.

(Yawn)
Jim, you act like a boring child repeating a senseless question.
But the fact you're accompanied by so many alikes makes it necessary
to go on....
These aren't just claims or statements, they are facts.
You can look 'm up....

I'll try to enlighten you (mission impossible iii)
What is a fact?
Gorbatsjov was the person who had the right intentions up front and
grabbed his chance to stop a dynasty of dictators and reform with all
respect due to human values. He luckily had the chance during the last
days of a "week" man like tsjernenkov.
Whatever president of he us, Eastern Europe would have changed like it
did.

I'll also tell you what a (dumb and manipulative) statement is.
The statement that "it was Reagan who had scared the russian crooks so
bad that Gornatsjov had no choice but to abandon the reign of evil and
become friends with the great world leader".
My goodness, this is funny.... And to know that there are people who
actually believe that.... Alzheimer kicks in hard and early I
guess.... ....

"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:31:44 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


Care to support your claims with some proof?
Just because you say so does not make it fact.

(Yawn)
Jim, you act like a boring child repeating a senseless question.
But the fact you're accompanied by so many alikes makes it necessary
to go on....
These aren't just claims or statements, they are facts.
You can look 'm up....


I did. They are not *facts* but how you want to interpret the events during
those years.

Not once did I flame you during our brief exchange. You did, yet had the
gall to previously call us on the carpet for our behavior.

Not nice Lenny.

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:30:04 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:

Not once did I flame you during our brief exchange. You did, yet had the
gall to previously call us on the carpet for our behavior.
Not nice Lenny.

Well, i don't think saying one act's like a boring child when the same
statement is repeatedly posed is much different from saying looney
lefts or bull**** when one has made a serious remark.
You can't blame me for seeing that as the normal level of "intensity"
in this group.
What you can say is I don't keep books with what everybody
individually has been saying but I think that is a bit too much to
ask.
But as you're hurt that easily, please accept my apologies...

"Len" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:31:44 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


Care to support your claims with some proof?
Just because you say so does not make it fact.

(Yawn)
Jim, you act like a boring child repeating a senseless question.
But the fact you're accompanied by so many alikes makes it necessary
to go on....
These aren't just claims or statements, they are facts.
You can look 'm up....

I'll try to enlighten you (mission impossible iii)
What is a fact?
Gorbatsjov was the person who had the right intentions up front and
grabbed his chance to stop a dynasty of dictators and reform with all
respect due to human values. He luckily had the chance during the last
days of a "week" man like tsjernenkov.
Whatever president of he us, Eastern Europe would have changed like it
did.

I'll also tell you what a (dumb and manipulative) statement is.
The statement that "it was Reagan who had scared the russian crooks so
bad that Gornatsjov had no choice but to abandon the reign of evil and
become friends with the great world leader".
My goodness, this is funny.... And to know that there are people who
actually believe that.... Alzheimer kicks in hard and early I
guess.... ....



You want facts?

Fact: Reagan inherited an economy from Carter with double digit inflation,
double digit interest rates and gas shortages.



Fact: Ronald Reagan's tax cuts resulted in a financial boom with government
revenue substantially increasing during his 2 terms.


Fact: Reagan cut federal spending as a share of the GDP almost 1% during
his 2 terms.



Fact: Reagan is the only president in the last forty years to cut
inflation-adjusted non-defense outlays, which fell by 9.7 percent during his
first term.



Fact: Reagan cut the budget of 8 agencies out of 15 during his first term
and the budget of 10 out of 15 during his second term.



Fact: Reagan brought the USSR to its feet (financially) with them trying to
compete with our Strategic Defense Initiative and a continued space program.
This was one factor in bringing out the collapse of the USSR.



Fact: Reagan was one of the most popular US Presidents in history, getting
525 of 538 electoral votes and 59% of the popular votes in the 1984
election.



How about 'dem apples Len?



And all done without an attack on you or an insult to you.



Now come back once you learn to play nice.

*JimH* wrote:
You want facts?

Fact: Reagan inherited an economy from Carter with double digit inflation,
double digit interest rates and gas shortages.

Fact: Ronald Reagan's tax cuts resulted in a financial boom with government
revenue substantially increasing during his 2 terms.

Fact: Reagan cut federal spending as a share of the GDP almost 1% during
his 2 terms.

Fact: Reagan is the only president in the last forty years to cut
inflation-adjusted non-defense outlays, which fell by 9.7 percent during his
first term.

Fact: Reagan cut the budget of 8 agencies out of 15 during his first term
and the budget of 10 out of 15 during his second term.

Fact: Reagan brought the USSR to its feet (financially) with them trying to
compete with our Strategic Defense Initiative and a continued space program.
This was one factor in bringing out the collapse of the USSR.

Fact: Reagan was one of the most popular US Presidents in history, getting
525 of 538 electoral votes and 59% of the popular votes in the 1984
election.

How about 'dem apples Len?

Job well done!

--
Skipper