Len wrote:

The point here is can you take 5 seconds in which you stop pointing
back at me with all kinds of mirrorred critiques and have a good look
at how things are becoming in the us.

That mirror works both ways, Len. I'm afraid you misunderstand what's
going on over here. It's not about compassion, or lack of it, it's about
the thieving forced redistribution of wealth and real freedoms. We have
had our share of incompetent leadership; Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, etc.,
but we also have had true world leaders like Reagan. Our once great
Democrat party is no more, having been hijacked by radical socialists
and assorted special interests. Suspect you have your share of wackos
too (judging from the Aruba fiasco).

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Skipper

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:49:12 -0500, Skipper wrote:

Len wrote:

The point here is can you take 5 seconds in which you stop pointing
back at me with all kinds of mirrorred critiques and have a good look
at how things are becoming in the us.

That mirror works both ways, Len. I'm afraid you misunderstand what's
going on over here. It's not about compassion, or lack of it, it's about
the thieving forced redistribution of wealth and real freedoms. We have
had our share of incompetent leadership; Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, etc.,
but we also have had true world leaders like Reagan. Our once great
Democrat party is no more, having been hijacked by radical socialists
and assorted special interests. Suspect you have your share of wackos
too (judging from the Aruba fiasco).

Lets try to lift the discussion from the simple pointing at situations
or anecdotes. Cause if we don't there only will be a series of it.
In my post I admmitted up front there are things to be seriously
improved in Europe. Why can't you? Are you serious in calling Reagan a
competent leader? In my view he was accidentally in office when a true
leader like Gorbatsjow entered the circustent. What would or better
could Reagan have achieved without Gorbatsjow bringing Glasnost and
Perestrojka? Furthermore he is the one that started serious
overspending to please the industry (Star Wars). He spent that much
that democrats wil have to raise taxes (cause the reps won't) so
their and you children will have a lesser debt.
What is actually wrong with this series of facts? Please stick to this
series....

Regards, Len.

Len wrote:


Lets try to lift the discussion from the simple pointing at situations
or anecdotes. Cause if we don't there only will be a series of it.
In my post I admmitted up front there are things to be seriously
improved in Europe. Why can't you? Are you serious in calling Reagan a
competent leader? In my view he was accidentally in office when a true
leader like Gorbatsjow entered the circustent. What would or better
could Reagan have achieved without Gorbatsjow bringing Glasnost and
Perestrojka? Furthermore he is the one that started serious
overspending to please the industry (Star Wars). He spent that much
that democrats wil have to raise taxes (cause the reps won't) so
their and you children will have a lesser debt.
What is actually wrong with this series of facts? Please stick to this
series....

Mikhail is in town today. Perhaps I'll ask him about HIS views of
Reagan. Believe his views of Reagan will be a bit more accurate than
yours.

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Skipper

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:10:58 -0500, Skipper wrote:
Mikhail is in town today. Perhaps I'll ask him about HIS views of
Reagan. Believe his views of Reagan will be a bit more accurate than
yours.

Oh I agree totally, of course. But I am convinced mr Gorbatsjow is an
extraordinary erudite and civilised man and therefore would never
give negative comments in public about a deceased collegue. No one
with a good upbringing would (yes you're right indeed: except me). But
I think when you ask him unexpectedly he will feel embarassed cause it
forces him to think fast and come up with something that makes the
ridiculity vanish of a man with no credits, -other than being a B-film
actor with a mediocre IQ-, becoming president of the us.

But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

"Len" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:10:58 -0500, Skipper wrote:
Mikhail is in town today. Perhaps I'll ask him about HIS views of
Reagan. Believe his views of Reagan will be a bit more accurate than
yours.

Oh I agree totally, of course. But I am convinced mr Gorbatsjow is an
extraordinary erudite and civilised man and therefore would never
give negative comments in public about a deceased collegue. No one
with a good upbringing would (yes you're right indeed: except me). But
I think when you ask him unexpectedly he will feel embarassed cause it
forces him to think fast and come up with something that makes the
ridiculity vanish of a man with no credits, -other than being a B-film
actor with a mediocre IQ-, becoming president of the us.

But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?


The fact that they are not facts.

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:27:31 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.


Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

"Len" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:27:31 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.


Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

Strong return argument Len.

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:10:58 -0500, Skipper wrote:
Mikhail is in town today. Perhaps I'll ask him about HIS views of
Reagan. Believe his views of Reagan will be a bit more accurate than
yours.

Oh I agree totally, of course. But I am convinced mr Gorbatsjow is an
extraordinary erudite and civilised man and therefore would never
give negative comments in public about a deceased collegue. No one
with a good upbringing would (yes you're right indeed: except me). But
I think when you ask him unexpectedly he will feel embarassed cause it
forces him to think fast and come up with something that makes the
ridiculity vanish of a man with no credits, -other than being a B-film
actor with a mediocre IQ-, becoming president of the us.

But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

Well said Len. I think you may have sent Snippy in search of his
bottle.

jps

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:37:37 -0700, jps wrote:

Well said Len. I think you may have sent Snippy in search of his
bottle.

Hi jps,
Thanks. I want the US of my youth back....
Tell me, what did become of the nice americans like BJ Hunnicut,
Hawkeye and Sherman Potter in Mash 4077? It looks like the Frank
Burns-character and the paranoid intelligence-officer whose name
slipped my mind is being cloned every few minutes.

But then again I also want the Holland of my youth back.
Guess it's me.... I can't keep up with time.... I guess that's why my
wife and I are tossing off and go cruising in 1,5 years....
But we are going to have FUN....
And... I sure hope to make a LOT of new american friends on the
way....
And cuban, and german, and arabic, and ...

Regards, Len.

jps wrote:

Well said Len. I think you may have sent Snippy in search of his
bottle.

If you had to chose between visiting with Gorby or Len today, which
would you chose?

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Skipper