Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

That's without even beginning to consider the posts.

"Liberals are Faggots" or "Bush is Retarded" threads often get over 100
posts, while most boating related items are over and out with 3-6
responses. When posts are considered, we could easily be 150-200 to
one, (off-topic to on).

Don't know what to do, or if anything should or could be done. Not
saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.

But in case nobody else has noticed, as a group I think we're the worst
we have ever been. And that's no small accomplishment, considering
history. :-(

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Does this thread of yours go into the "signal" or "noise" classification?


wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

That's without even beginning to consider the posts.

"Liberals are Faggots" or "Bush is Retarded" threads often get over 100
posts, while most boating related items are over and out with 3-6
responses. When posts are considered, we could easily be 150-200 to
one, (off-topic to on).

Don't know what to do, or if anything should or could be done. Not
saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.

But in case nobody else has noticed, as a group I think we're the worst
we have ever been. And that's no small accomplishment, considering
history. :-(

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

snip

Not saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.


Yep.

Lead by example Chuck.

Until then, stop the whining.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

You are one of the worst offenders.

--
Skipper

Have you started on on-topic thread since your return Psuedo?
(Other than reposting some Steinbeck excerpts...and personal attacks if
you want to consider those sort of on-topic?)

I started maybe two OT threads in the last week or so. You started how
many so far today?

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

NOYB wrote:
Does this thread of yours go into the "signal" or "noise" classification?


Noise NOYB.

This one of mine, some others of mine, and virtually all of yours.
Purely useless, OT noisemakers we are.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

snip

Not saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.


Yep.

Lead by example Chuck.

Until then, stop the whining.

It's not my job to lead.
It's a comment, not a whine.
There is almost *no* boating content in the NG, at all.
At least you and I have boats and therefore have some opportunity to
discuss same. As you know, some of the most prolific posters here are
not boaters and are simply here to troll.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Don't know what to do, or if anything should or could be done. Not
saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.

filter filter filter

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

And now I have a headache and need some caffeine.

Diet Pepsi style. :)

No, you're wrong...Vanilla Diet Coke is better.

--
Skipper

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

"NOYB" wrote:

Does this thread of yours go into the "signal" or "noise" classification?

I win. :)

I never discuss with Nigerians...thus, I win.

--
Skipper

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

No, you're wrong...Vanilla Diet Coke is better.

Vanilla Diet Coke tastes like pond scum.

Diet Pepsi Rules!!! :)

Damn!!! But I'm still Right.

--
Skipper

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

wrote in message
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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

You are one of the worst offenders.

--
Skipper

Have you started on on-topic thread since your return Psuedo?
(Other than reposting some Steinbeck excerpts...and personal attacks if
you want to consider those sort of on-topic?)

I started maybe two OT threads in the last week or so. You started how
many so far today?

Chuck, why don't you call Skipper by his name?

You really are a punk and a bully.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

snip

Not saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.


Yep.

Lead by example Chuck.

Until then, stop the whining.

Jim, what does this have to do with boats?

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Chuck,
How do you know the most prolific posters are not boaters? Who in rec.boats
is not a boater? The only person I know who sold his boat was JimH, and
even when he didn't own a boat, he was still a boater. Since JimH has
purchased a new runabout, he not only is a boater, but he is a boat owner.
I know many CGAUX members who don't own boats, but they are definitely
boaters.

Harry is definitely one of the most prolific posters, but I for one believe
he owns a nice Parker. He may not use it much, but I really think he owns
one.

Just because he fabricated a story about a Zimmerman style Lobster Boat does
not mean he is not a boater.

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

snip

Not saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.


Yep.

Lead by example Chuck.

Until then, stop the whining.

It's not my job to lead.
It's a comment, not a whine.
There is almost *no* boating content in the NG, at all.
At least you and I have boats and therefore have some opportunity to
discuss same. As you know, some of the most prolific posters here are
not boaters and are simply here to troll.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

You are one of the worst offenders.

--
Skipper

Have you started on on-topic thread since your return Psuedo?
(Other than reposting some Steinbeck excerpts...and personal attacks if
you want to consider those sort of on-topic?)

I started maybe two OT threads in the last week or so. You started how
many so far today?

Chuck, why don't you call Skipper by his name?

You really are a punk and a bully.

Your petty and childish name calling does nothing for your credibility.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Chuck,
For years, whenever someone mentioned the signal to noise ratio in
rec.boats, you chided them to start on topic posts. You would always
comment that the OT posts concerning OT posts just added to the signal to
noise ratio. You also chided these people not to expect the regulars in
rec.boats to entertain them, that is was their responsibility to make on
topic posts.

Harry is positively the worst offender for starting OT threads. Harry's
only purpose in coming to rec.boats is to troll for OT political threads and
he prides himself in being very effective in his OT trolls. As long as he
is regular to rec.boats, I can promise you there will not be any change in
the tone of rec.boats.


wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

That's without even beginning to consider the posts.

"Liberals are Faggots" or "Bush is Retarded" threads often get over 100
posts, while most boating related items are over and out with 3-6
responses. When posts are considered, we could easily be 150-200 to
one, (off-topic to on).

Don't know what to do, or if anything should or could be done. Not
saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.

But in case nobody else has noticed, as a group I think we're the worst
we have ever been. And that's no small accomplishment, considering
history. :-(

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Tom,
All I have to say is you are wrong, and I am right.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 27 Oct 2005 19:57:12 -0700, wrote:

Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

It's ridiculous - and pretty damn stupid if you ask me.

By the way, I haven't looked at any of the other responses to this
post yet, but I'm willing to bet that at least one will ask you if
this is considered signal or noise.

Bet money on it. :)

It's the way this newsgroup runs.

That's without even beginning to consider the posts.

"Liberals are Faggots" or "Bush is Retarded" threads often get over 100
posts, while most boating related items are over and out with 3-6
responses. When posts are considered, we could easily be 150-200 to
one, (off-topic to on).

What's even more interesting is this. I've posted at least four
liberal aimed posts over the past couple of weeks, but I "disguised"
their headers just to see what would happen and whether they would
draw any comment. One was rather anti-Walmart/pro-union and not a
single comment.

What does that say?

Don't know what to do, or if anything should or could be done. Not
saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.

As have most of us on occasion. I'm probably about to get myself into
trouble here, but at this point I really don't care.

But in case nobody else has noticed, as a group I think we're the worst
we have ever been. And that's no small accomplishment, considering
history. :-(

1 - As a relative newbie here, I'm startled by the complete and total
lack of humor. There are very few here who are willing to participate
in a little off-topic goofiness or some virtual hi-jinks and when it
does occur, it's over with in a flash.

2 - Most of the OT participants, with a couple of exceptions, don't
know what they are talking about. Even more to the point, if they do
indeed know what they are talking about, that is put aside in order to
call their virtual antagonists festering pustules or leprous lunatics.
Civil discourse is non-existent. Probing and discussing in order to
learn what areas of agreement exist isn't a technique.

This newsgroup reminds me of Frank Herbet's "Whipping Star" and "The
Dosadi Experiment" alien race, the Gowachin. The following is a
quote:

"In a Gowachin trial, everything is on trial: every participant,
including the judges; every law; even the foundational precept of
Gowachin law. Legal ideas from other systems are turned on their head:
someone pronounced "innocent" (guilty in other terms) by the court is
torn to pieces by angry spectators; judges may have bias ("if I can
decide for my side, I will"), though not prejudice ("I will decide for
my side, regardless"); defendant and plaintiff are chosen at trial by
the side bringing the complaint choosing one role or the other;
torture is permitted; all procedural rules may be violated, but only
by finding conflict within procedural rules."

Substitute trial and laws for newsgroup procedure and you have an
exact description.

3 - There is no, zero/zip/nada discipline in this newsgroup. None.
It doesn't exist. Add to that folks who are constantly on the verge
of a depressive cycle and you get what you got.

Can you do anything about it?

Nope. It's a free speech country, although I suspect that if the UN
got it's grimy clutches on the Internet, we wouldn't be having this
discussion in any shape, way or form.

What would affect the group is if everyone, including me I must
confess, refrained from republishing entire articles, or editing
articles to suit their own viewpoint (which I don't do), or, and this
would be the hardest, treat your virtual enemy as your friend instead.

In closing, I try very hard to get along with everybody. I did it in
my professional career and I try to do it in setting like this and
social settings at home. It's not that I don't have my own likes and
dislikes. There are businessmen and engineering department heads who
despise me and I them, but they still call me to help when they are
stuck because they know that I'll keep it professional and get it
done.

Out of the regular membership who contribute here, there are probably
two in total who I would have some trouble dealing with in real life,
but that doesn't mean I can't discuss issues in a calm and equitable
way. There are too many hard heads here who take a position and stick
with it through thick and thin without even giving it any rational
thought.

In conclusion - it's all about ****ing on each other's shoes here -
just the way it is.

And now I have a headache and need some caffeine.

Diet Pepsi style. :)

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
snip

1 - As a relative newbie here, I'm startled by the complete and total
lack of humor. There are very few here who are willing to participate
in a little off-topic goofiness or some virtual hi-jinks and when it
does occur, it's over with in a flash.

2 - Most of the OT participants, with a couple of exceptions, don't
know what they are talking about. Even more to the point, if they do
indeed know what they are talking about, that is put aside in order to
call their virtual antagonists festering pustules or leprous lunatics.
Civil discourse is non-existent. Probing and discussing in order to
learn what areas of agreement exist isn't a technique.

This newsgroup reminds me of Frank Herbet's "Whipping Star" and "The
Dosadi Experiment" alien race, the Gowachin. The following is a
quote:

"In a Gowachin trial, everything is on trial: every participant,
including the judges; every law; even the foundational precept of
Gowachin law. Legal ideas from other systems are turned on their head:
someone pronounced "innocent" (guilty in other terms) by the court is
torn to pieces by angry spectators; judges may have bias ("if I can
decide for my side, I will"), though not prejudice ("I will decide for
my side, regardless"); defendant and plaintiff are chosen at trial by
the side bringing the complaint choosing one role or the other;
torture is permitted; all procedural rules may be violated, but only
by finding conflict within procedural rules."

Substitute trial and laws for newsgroup procedure and you have an
exact description.

3 - There is no, zero/zip/nada discipline in this newsgroup. None.
It doesn't exist. Add to that folks who are constantly on the verge
of a depressive cycle and you get what you got.

Can you do anything about it?

Nope. It's a free speech country, although I suspect that if the UN
got it's grimy clutches on the Internet, we wouldn't be having this
discussion in any shape, way or form.

What would affect the group is if everyone, including me I must
confess, refrained from republishing entire articles, or editing
articles to suit their own viewpoint (which I don't do), or, and this
would be the hardest, treat your virtual enemy as your friend instead.

In closing, I try very hard to get along with everybody. I did it in
my professional career and I try to do it in setting like this and
social settings at home. It's not that I don't have my own likes and
dislikes. There are businessmen and engineering department heads who
despise me and I them, but they still call me to help when they are
stuck because they know that I'll keep it professional and get it
done.

Out of the regular membership who contribute here, there are probably
two in total who I would have some trouble dealing with in real life,
but that doesn't mean I can't discuss issues in a calm and equitable
way. There are too many hard heads here who take a position and stick
with it through thick and thin without even giving it any rational
thought.

In conclusion - it's all about ****ing on each other's shoes here -
just the way it is.

And now I have a headache and need some caffeine.

Diet Pepsi style. :)

I think you deserve 'the real thing' after that!
Treat yourself to a 'Coke'.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Chuck,

I have to agree. I've no idea what to do either. However, if we can only
stay out of these OT political and social discussions they could well go
away. Not to say some OT threads are not entertaining. There is a lot of
good OT humor on the board. I just wish the ugliness would go away. Some
of the language seen here is deplorable. Why are folks willing to type
language that they'd never use in public? Pretty gross, IMO.

Another gripe of mine is when a thread subject changes into something
completely OT and the writer fails to make changes to the subject line. A
little more snipping would also be nice.

Butch
wrote in message
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Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?
Snip

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
Does this thread of yours go into the "signal" or "noise" classification?

Noise NOYB.

This one of mine, some others of mine, and virtually all of yours.
Purely useless, OT noisemakers we are.

Calling a spade a spade, this NG is history due to OT abuse by Harry
Krause and his Looney Left buds. They turned this once great NG into the
political and personal attack slime pit it has become. I count YOU as
one of the worst offenders, Chuck Gould. You could have done better.

It ain't going back to what it once was. Stop your pompous bitchin' and
get with the program.


That's a rather insightful (maybe even inciteful) comment Psuedo. At
least you have abandoned any pretense of meaningful discussion about
boats or boating and
declare that the new "program" is a "slime pit" of politics and
personal attack. One question; who named you Program Chairman?

--
Skipper

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Smith Smithers wrote:
Chuck,
How do you know the most prolific posters are not boaters? Who in rec.boats
is not a boater? The only person I know who sold his boat was JimH, and
even when he didn't own a boat, he was still a boater. Since JimH has
purchased a new runabout, he not only is a boater, but he is a boat owner.
I know many CGAUX members who don't own boats, but they are definitely
boaters.

Harry is definitely one of the most prolific posters, but I for one believe
he owns a nice Parker. He may not use it much, but I really think he owns
one.

Just because he fabricated a story about a Zimmerman style Lobster Boat does
not mean he is not a boater.


You use your boat as a "floating condo", an indication that it seldom
if ever leaves the dock. You can be a boat owner, without being a
boater.
Some of these guys may have some little aluminum row boat slowly being
engulfed by the berry vines out behind the woodshed- sorry, but they're
not boaters either.

Here's a good clue to sleuth out the non-boaters: Look for a group of
people who virtually never participate in a boating thread regardless
of content, or, when they do participate, do so by waiting for somebody
of the "incorrect" political spectrum to make a comment and then change
the header and respond with personal attack and political opinion. If
you can't spot that behavior here, you'd need Lasik to compete with Mr.
Magoo.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Chuck, why don't you call Skipper by his name?

You really are a punk and a bully.

Hate to break this to you, Bert, but his name isn't "Skipper."
If he doesn't choose to use his name in the NG, why should I?

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Smith Smithers wrote:
Chuck,
For years, whenever someone mentioned the signal to noise ratio in
rec.boats, you chided them to start on topic posts. You would always
comment that the OT posts concerning OT posts just added to the signal to
noise ratio. You also chided these people not to expect the regulars in
rec.boats to entertain them, that is was their responsibility to make on
topic posts.

Harry is positively the worst offender for starting OT threads. Harry's
only purpose in coming to rec.boats is to troll for OT political threads and
he prides himself in being very effective in his OT trolls. As long as he
is regular to rec.boats, I can promise you there will not be any change in
the tone of rec.boats.




I continue to believe that starting on-topic threads is the answer. I
start as many on-topic threads as anybody, far more than some. The
responses you're refering to are typically offered to some previously
unheard of screen name who
jumps in with, "What the hell is wrong with you guys? I've been
watching this NG for two weeks, trying to figure out how to rebuild the
pump on my manual marine toilet and all I see are personal feuds,
political arguments, and OT crap."

Harry sets the tone in the Newsgroup only because he has attracted a
group of
emotionally needy folks who *must* engage Harry every day and *must*
respond to each and every one of his trolls with venom and spite. I'm
sure Harry gets quite the kick out of manipulating people as skillfully
as he does, and probably laughs his butt off as he realizes that his
detractors are doing exactly what he needs and expects them to do in
response to his calculated
stimuli. If the anti-Krause crowd hates Harry so badly, why do they
allow themselves to be completely controlled by him?

Responding to Harry with malice and disdain is like trying to douse a
fire with a bucket of gasoline. But you know that- surely you must- as
do the people who are co-dependent on his trolling.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

My approach to filtering is, when I see a "New" OT post, I usually block
that sender. But I don't think I've done that, in months!

In the last week, I have received only 7 "New" OT posts. 2 from Chuck, and,
(regrettably) 1 from Lloyd. Shame on you, Lloyd! However there have been
plenty of "OT:" responses to all the OT morons, most from boaters who
should know better than to take the bait. If only there were a way to
filter out all threads that were _initiated_ by a person...

By the way, what ever happened to that Harry blowhard?

Happy boating
Sal's Dad

-- "Falky foo" wrote
filter filter filter

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Gene Kearns wrote:

Calling a spade a spade, this NG is history due to OT abuse by Harry
Krause and his Looney Left buds. They turned this once great NG into the
political and personal attack slime pit it has become. I count YOU as
one of the worst offenders, Chuck Gould. You could have done better.

It ain't going back to what it once was. Stop your pompous bitchin' and
get with the program.

So..... you have the opportunity to be part of the problem or part of
the solution. Are you going to continue complaining about the "loony
left" or ignore the politics and talk boats.

There ain't no solution. This NG as a source for boaters to share info
and engage in 'docktalk' is history. Too many participants here for the
sole purpose of participating in the competitive game playing. Post a
cruising story or proudly of your boat and it will be torn apart...or,
at best, you'll be called a liar. Why even go there? This NG is what it
is.

Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time you addressed a
poster concerning a boating topic.

That is because too many poseurs will be waiting to **** on those good
words. Do you REALLY believe I can issue an on-topic post without it
being flamed.

Do you still have the Bayliner? Or what did you replace it with? Do
you have *any* recent boating stories to share?

Have many great boating adventures to share. Unfortunately, this is no
longer a proper forum for such sharing. Thought about posting to
rec.boats.cruising...but the usual suspects would only pollute that fine
NG with their bile.

--
Skipper

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck, why don't you call Skipper by his name?

You really are a punk and a bully.

I'd just simply tag him a charlatan with a used car salesman's heart. We
all saw his real boating knowledge in that West Coast cruising
discussion...or should we say, lack of knowledge.

--
Skipper

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck, why don't you call Skipper by his name?

You really are a punk and a bully.

I'd just simply tag him a charlatan with a used car salesman's heart. We
all saw his real boating knowledge in that West Coast cruising
discussion...or should we say, lack of knowledge.

--
Skipper

Skipper, your game is getting old.

Drop it already or leave.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Believe it or not, I'm still around. I still cruise through rec.boats
now and then, but not on a daily or even weekly basis like I used to.
I'm saddened not only by what's happened to rec.boats, but USENET in
general, which used to be such a wonderful place where you could find
knowledgeable conversation on virtually any topic.

Of course, back then (mid-late-80s), USENET was populated by professors
and grad students, and hardly anybody else. Off-topic posts were
virtually non-existent, and "advertising on the internet" was unheard
of, except in a few scattered .forsale groups.

Now it's just overrun with loonies, like the famous Jerry Howe, who has
destroyed rec.pets.dogs.behavior, which is *supposed* to be a group on
dog training. Skipper's another one. While he has yet, after all
these years, to make one single post to rec.boats indicating that he
even knows what a boat *is*, he floods the group with his silly, trite
little verbal spitballs. I mean, this guy actually *hunts* for
boating-related threads to destroy with stupid, off-topic insults and
feeble attempts to sound cute. And he has succeeded.

Harry Krause does indeed post OT more than he should, but he's
basically going with a pre-existing flow in that respect. But the
difference between Harry and Skipper is that Harry is a seasoned,
boating veteran who DOES know boats, and is always jumps in to
participate in boat-related discussions in a focused, knowledgeable
manner.

Skipper, however, knows utterly NOTHING about boats, NEVER posts about
boats, and can't stand the embarrassment of everybody talking about
something he knows nothing about, so whenever we try to talk about
boats, he jumps in a sabotages the thread. Idiot.

Ron M.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

That's without even beginning to consider the posts.

"Liberals are Faggots" or "Bush is Retarded" threads often get over 100
posts, while most boating related items are over and out with 3-6
responses. When posts are considered, we could easily be 150-200 to
one, (off-topic to on).

Don't know what to do, or if anything should or could be done. Not
saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.

But in case nobody else has noticed, as a group I think we're the worst
we have ever been. And that's no small accomplishment, considering
history. :-(


I've noticed that 3 of my most useful and informative ng's share the same
problem: a very high noise to signal ratio.
I've also noticed that all 3 groups offer excellent responses to all on
topic posts.
If the ability to post OT is what keeps the folks around that can be most
helpful to on topic posters, I can't complain about that.
My only regret is that the noise component is so unfriendly; but I suspect
even that is attributable to very few ng members and not to the majority.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Chuck,
I do use my boat as a floating condo, but I never stay on the dock. I find
a secluded cove, to anchor or raft up with friends. I also find the boat to
be a great aphrodisiac. Something about moving up and down with the boat.


wrote in message
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Smith Smithers wrote:
Chuck,
How do you know the most prolific posters are not boaters? Who in
rec.boats
is not a boater? The only person I know who sold his boat was JimH, and
even when he didn't own a boat, he was still a boater. Since JimH has
purchased a new runabout, he not only is a boater, but he is a boat
owner.
I know many CGAUX members who don't own boats, but they are definitely
boaters.

Harry is definitely one of the most prolific posters, but I for one
believe
he owns a nice Parker. He may not use it much, but I really think he
owns
one.

Just because he fabricated a story about a Zimmerman style Lobster Boat
does
not mean he is not a boater.


You use your boat as a "floating condo", an indication that it seldom
if ever leaves the dock. You can be a boat owner, without being a
boater.
Some of these guys may have some little aluminum row boat slowly being
engulfed by the berry vines out behind the woodshed- sorry, but they're
not boaters either.

Here's a good clue to sleuth out the non-boaters: Look for a group of
people who virtually never participate in a boating thread regardless
of content, or, when they do participate, do so by waiting for somebody
of the "incorrect" political spectrum to make a comment and then change
the header and respond with personal attack and political opinion. If
you can't spot that behavior here, you'd need Lasik to compete with Mr.
Magoo.

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

Smith Smithers wrote:
Chuck,
snip...

I also find the boat to be a great aphrodisiac. Something about moving
up and
down with the boat.

Well, I guess when you need help, you take it anywhere you can.

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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Smith Smithers wrote:

Chuck,
snip...


I also find the boat to be a great aphrodisiac. Something about
moving up and
down with the boat.

Well, I guess when you need help, you take it anywhere you can.



Smithers has sex with his boat?

Wow.


I wouldn't want to say that......
When we were kids I think it was considered 'dry humping'.
(not so dry for your undies though...)

Our signal to noise ratio sucks.......
 

--
Skipper

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Gene Kearns wrote:

If you have no intention of posting boating information.... is there
*ANY* reason to come here at all...... unless you just enjoy posting
flames?

http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

Since when did this become a boating forum? I thought it was a shill
site for Lee Yeaton's bayguide.

--
Skipper

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?

I call things as they are, Gould. Not a bad habit for a real boater.
You, are a poseur and a charlatan.

--
Skipper

I think we agree. If you hold yourself up as an example of a "real
boater", I would be quick to agree that whatever it is you are, I am
indeed something else. Thank heavens.

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wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Anybody else notice that OT threads are running at a multiple of about
4 times the on-topic threads?

snip

Not saying I haven't contributed to the noise myself.


Yep.

Lead by example Chuck.

Until then, stop the whining.

It's not my job to lead.
It's a comment, not a whine.
There is almost *no* boating content in the NG, at all.
At least you and I have boats and therefore have some opportunity to
discuss same. As you know, some of the most prolific posters here are
not boaters and are simply here to troll.

I'm new but your observations are dead on. I'm subscribed to
rec.boats.cruising and there is virtually no OT or flame wars going on.

BTW Chuck, read your magazine last night. Very impressed. Meant to read it
before I went to sleep. Had the opposite effect. Enjoyed your narrative
and pictures of the cruise-to-the-wilderness trek.

-Greg

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:05:05 -0500, Skipper wrote:


That is because too many poseurs will be waiting to **** on those good
words. Do you REALLY believe I can issue an on-topic post without it
being flamed.


Uh... Live by the sword, Die by the sword?


Worse yet, skewer yourself on your own darn sword while attempting to
attack others. It's so pathetic one would be inclined to sympathetic
with such a loser, if he weren't so intent on making sure everybody in
sight hated his guts.