Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed alive)
I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so much
time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life". How
dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom and
family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.




"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
JimH,

I am sorry your mom had to suffer 8 yrs in a nursing home. I sometimes
wonder why as a society, we spend so much time money and effort to extend
someone's life with so little concern for their quality of life. I am not
making any judgment on you or your mom's situation, but I know when it is
my time to go, I have a living will limiting what anyone can do to extend
my life.

The ideal way to go is to go to sleep and not wake up.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...


Not about Harry this time. First post I saw from JimH this morning
after his self-imposed exile, was what I took as a jab at Chuck.



Yep. And what did it have to do with you Don?



(I'm guessing that likeness on the Tinyurl is supposed to be Chuck)



If that is who you think it is based on the characteristics I listed
then that's your option.



Not quite like that. I'm getting to understand your 'MO'!



Good. We are getting to know each other better and better each day,
and that is a good thing.

How is your Mom doing Don? (an honest question). As others have said
I also applaud you for taking care of her.


She's doing fine, thanks. She hits 91 next month.

My Mom passed away earlier this year. She suffered a stroke some 14 or
so years ago and went downhill from there, eventually ending up in a
nursing home for the past 8 or 9 years. Even being at a nursing home
took quite a toll on me and my sisters with weekly visitations and making
sure she was being cared for properly.

Glad to hear your Mom is doing well Don. 91 years
young............very impressive.

JimH,
Take a long deep breath, and calm down. I have no idea of your mom's
situation, and said that right up front. I also said I was not judging or
commenting on you or your mom's situation. I also do not endorse
euthanasia.

My comment was a comment on society in general, and yes our medical ability
can prolong someone's life beyond their normal life span. I wish more
doctors would say, "it is a good day to die", instead of "what can I do to
keep this person alive a little longer".

My father was on a DNR in the hospital, and I stayed with him for his last
week. I saw the people in his ward who were kept alive way belong their
time. The people who were in a coma, wheeling into dialysis, even though
they were 80 and in a coma.
I stayed with my father to make sure he was allowed to die, and a the
doctors followed his wishes.

You should not be insulted about my comments in anyway, since it was not
directed towards you or anyone in particular. It is my opinion, and one
endorsed by many in the medical profession.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed
alive) I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so
much time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life".
How dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in
general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom
and family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.




"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
JimH,

I am sorry your mom had to suffer 8 yrs in a nursing home. I sometimes
wonder why as a society, we spend so much time money and effort to extend
someone's life with so little concern for their quality of life. I am
not making any judgment on you or your mom's situation, but I know when
it is my time to go, I have a living will limiting what anyone can do to
extend my life.

The ideal way to go is to go to sleep and not wake up.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...


Not about Harry this time. First post I saw from JimH this morning
after his self-imposed exile, was what I took as a jab at Chuck.



Yep. And what did it have to do with you Don?



(I'm guessing that likeness on the Tinyurl is supposed to be Chuck)



If that is who you think it is based on the characteristics I listed
then that's your option.



Not quite like that. I'm getting to understand your 'MO'!



Good. We are getting to know each other better and better each day,
and that is a good thing.

How is your Mom doing Don? (an honest question). As others have
said I also applaud you for taking care of her.


She's doing fine, thanks. She hits 91 next month.

My Mom passed away earlier this year. She suffered a stroke some 14 or
so years ago and went downhill from there, eventually ending up in a
nursing home for the past 8 or 9 years. Even being at a nursing home
took quite a toll on me and my sisters with weekly visitations and
making sure she was being cared for properly.

Glad to hear your Mom is doing well Don. 91 years
young............very impressive.

No need for me to calm down. Anyone recently losing a loved one,
especially with that person suffering for an extended period (with dementia
and arthritis) in a nursing home would take offense to your general remarks
about throwing money away (to a nursing home) and not caring about their
loved ones quality of life.

Sorry but that is how I took it. I said what I had to say.

Peace.






"Starbucker" wrote in message
...
JimH,
Take a long deep breath, and calm down.

snip

*JimH* wrote:
Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed alive)
I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so much
time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life". How
dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom and
family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.


Gee, that's odd, Jim. You don't seem to mind fabricating stories about
my dead mother. You also don't seem to mind saying nasty little remarks
about my dead mother. Because of your lying, nasty, mean spirited
bull**** you deserve everything you get here. Now be a man.

On 11 Oct 2005 13:42:37 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed alive)
I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so much
time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life". How
dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom and
family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.


Gee, that's odd, Jim. You don't seem to mind fabricating stories about
my dead mother. You also don't seem to mind saying nasty little remarks
about my dead mother. Because of your lying, nasty, mean spirited
bull**** you deserve everything you get here. Now be a man.

Gee, Kevin, I can't remember *anyone* making nasty remarks about your dead
mother. Did you just make that up along with the other things you make up?

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 11 Oct 2005 13:42:37 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no
idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed
alive)
I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in
euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so
much
time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life". How
dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in
general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom
and
family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.


Gee, that's odd, Jim. You don't seem to mind fabricating stories about
my dead mother. You also don't seem to mind saying nasty little remarks
about my dead mother. Because of your lying, nasty, mean spirited
bull**** you deserve everything you get here. Now be a man.

Gee, Kevin, I can't remember *anyone* making nasty remarks about your dead
mother. Did you just make that up along with the other things you make up?

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

Another fabricated story. Another lie.

How many times do we have to see this tactic before we just dismiss it as
fiction? It seems like quite a common tactic by many on the left.....accuse
someone of a dastardly deed but never produce the proof of the claim when
asked. We even see that on a National scale. How convenient. How
pathetic.

Another case in point.......Gould claimed on 10-3 that I recently posted a
particularly nasty *attack* post about him. When asked to produce that post
has come up empty.

How typical. How pathetic.

Now Kevin is claiming I posted nasty remarks about his Mother.

So I ask once again.........care to produce that post Kevin?

More attacks. More lies.

yawn

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:55:20 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
.. .
On 11 Oct 2005 13:42:37 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no
idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed
alive)
I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in
euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so
much
time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life". How
dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in
general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom
and
family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.


Gee, that's odd, Jim. You don't seem to mind fabricating stories about
my dead mother. You also don't seem to mind saying nasty little remarks
about my dead mother. Because of your lying, nasty, mean spirited
bull**** you deserve everything you get here. Now be a man.

Gee, Kevin, I can't remember *anyone* making nasty remarks about your dead
mother. Did you just make that up along with the other things you make up?

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

Another fabricated story. Another lie.

How many times do we have to see this tactic before we just dismiss it as
fiction? It seems like quite a common tactic by many on the left.....accuse
someone of a dastardly deed but never produce the proof of the claim when
asked. We even see that on a National scale. How convenient. How
pathetic.

Another case in point.......Gould claimed on 10-3 that I recently posted a
particularly nasty *attack* post about him. When asked to produce that post
has come up empty.

How typical. How pathetic.

Now Kevin is claiming I posted nasty remarks about his Mother.

So I ask once again.........care to produce that post Kevin?

More attacks. More lies.

yawn


DSK has me calling him filthy names, Kevin has you making nasty remarks about
his dead mother. No telling what Harry's latest are. Life must be hell.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

*JimH* wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 11 Oct 2005 13:42:37 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
Although I do find your comments to be over the edge (as you have no
idea
what my Mom's situation was and have no right to judge how she stayed
alive)
I will address them anyway.

No one was extending her life. She was a fighter.

Yes, she had a living will but she survived without any artificial or
external apparatus keeping her alive. We are not believers in
euthanasia.

She lived her hell on earth and is now up in heaven with my Dad.

Frankly I was insulted by your reply, especially your comment about "so
much
time and effort with so little concern for their quality of life". How
dare you make such a statement, even when talking about society in
general.

I hope your parents and your family never have to go through what my Mom
and
family did. But we did so with total regard for her quality of life.


Gee, that's odd, Jim. You don't seem to mind fabricating stories about
my dead mother. You also don't seem to mind saying nasty little remarks
about my dead mother. Because of your lying, nasty, mean spirited
bull**** you deserve everything you get here. Now be a man.

Gee, Kevin, I can't remember *anyone* making nasty remarks about your dead
mother. Did you just make that up along with the other things you make up?

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

Another fabricated story. Another lie.

How many times do we have to see this tactic before we just dismiss it as
fiction? It seems like quite a common tactic by many on the left.....accuse
someone of a dastardly deed but never produce the proof of the claim when
asked. We even see that on a National scale. How convenient. How
pathetic.

Another case in point.......Gould claimed on 10-3 that I recently posted a
particularly nasty *attack* post about him. When asked to produce that post
has come up empty.

How typical. How pathetic.

Now Kevin is claiming I posted nasty remarks about his Mother.

No, Kevin is not, that I know of. I however, am. Don't remember, Jim?

Don't remember this:
I asked:
Where's binLaden?

You replied:
With your mother.

Or this:
I am sorry you mom used drugs when she was pregnant with you, but you
should
not have abused drugs, it was made it worse

You think you are beyond this ****, but only in your own mind. You've
proven what a non-person you are here.