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Ping: Chuck Gould - Riddle me this
You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the
Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? |
JimH,
If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? |
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:35:05 -0400, "Starbuck"
wrote: JimH, If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. I agree. Furthermore, unless Chuck can refute the evidence presented by JimH, I think an apology is in order. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
JohnH,
Consider the names we all have been called by the likes of Harry and Kevin i.e.: "**** for brains" "rectal fissure" "anal puss" etc. in which no apology was ever made, I think Chuck's statement, even if incorrect, is pretty inconsequential. Then again, I don't take anything said in rec.boats too seriously. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:35:05 -0400, "Starbuck" wrote: JimH, If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. I agree. Furthermore, unless Chuck can refute the evidence presented by JimH, I think an apology is in order. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:50:40 -0400, "Starbuck"
wrote: JohnH, Consider the names we all have been called by the likes of Harry and Kevin i.e.: "**** for brains" "rectal fissure" "anal puss" etc. in which no apology was ever made, I think Chuck's statement, even if incorrect, is pretty inconsequential. Then again, I don't take anything said in rec.boats too seriously. You and I have tough hides. I place Chuck on a higher plane than Harry or Kevin. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:32:17 -0400, *JimH* wrote:
You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. IPs are rather interesting, and easily spoofed. Someone who has interests in computers and telecommunications, say a broadcast engineer, would have the skills, but that doesn't sound like Chuck, does it? |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:28:23 -0400, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:32:17 -0400, *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. IPs are rather interesting, and easily spoofed. Someone who has interests in computers and telecommunications, say a broadcast engineer, would have the skills, but that doesn't sound like Chuck, does it? Chuck is the accuser. JimH is the accused. JimH is using an IP address as evidence that he wasn't acting as Skipper. I don't know if JimH is an engineer of any sort. Kevin claims to be an engineer with multiple degrees. Maybe it's Kevin doing the spoofing. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:28:23 -0400, thunder wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:32:17 -0400, *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. IPs are rather interesting, and easily spoofed. Someone who has interests in computers and telecommunications, say a broadcast engineer, would have the skills, but that doesn't sound like Chuck, does it? So teach me how to spoof an IP and show my ISP by one not offered in my area Thunder. |
I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia
may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? "Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? |
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"*JimH*" wrote in message ... I had a suspicion that a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? "Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:07:38 -0400, *JimH* wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:28:23 -0400, thunder wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:32:17 -0400, *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. IPs are rather interesting, and easily spoofed. Someone who has interests in computers and telecommunications, say a broadcast engineer, would have the skills, but that doesn't sound like Chuck, does it? So teach me how to spoof an IP and show my ISP by one not offered in my area Thunder. But Jim, you already know how to spoof an IP. You live in Avon Lake, Ohio, remember? Your IP consistently traces to a different state. |
Thunder,
I haven't checked it, but I would guess that JimH's ISP is based out of a different state, and the IP shows the origin of the ISP, not JimH. This is not spoofing. I am curious, since it is so easy to spoof an IP, how does one do it? Obviously what JimH does is not spoofing, but if you think it is, I think this question might be over your head. "thunder" wrote in message ... On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:07:38 -0400, *JimH* wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:28:23 -0400, thunder wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:32:17 -0400, *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. IPs are rather interesting, and easily spoofed. Someone who has interests in computers and telecommunications, say a broadcast engineer, would have the skills, but that doesn't sound like Chuck, does it? So teach me how to spoof an IP and show my ISP by one not offered in my area Thunder. But Jim, you already know how to spoof an IP. You live in Avon Lake, Ohio, remember? Your IP consistently traces to a different state. |
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:07:38 -0400, *JimH* wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:28:23 -0400, thunder wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:32:17 -0400, *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. IPs are rather interesting, and easily spoofed. Someone who has interests in computers and telecommunications, say a broadcast engineer, would have the skills, but that doesn't sound like Chuck, does it? So teach me how to spoof an IP and show my ISP by one not offered in my area Thunder. But Jim, you already know how to spoof an IP. You live in Avon Lake, Ohio, remember? Your IP consistently traces to a different state. And I am responsible for that. LOL! So for a second time I ask you.......tell me how to spoof an ISP and an IP address. |
Hello Mr. Starbuck............what do you think?
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... edit "*JimH*" wrote in message ... I had a suspicion that a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? "Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? |
Anything is possible, but I always thought the "On Lanier" handle was Kevin
Noble, before he became Basskisser and Jim Dandy. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? "Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you believe what you said is correct, it is not a lie, even if it is not correct. You must know the info is not correct for it to be a lie. I honestly believe Chuck believed it was you, if it wasn't for the IP, I would have thought it was you. While the tone of the post, and the attack on Gould did not sound like "Skipper" it is possible he had a stroke and this is "Skipper's" new personality. I disagree with Chuck on many issues, but the only time Chuck gets "nasty" is when he thinks his honor is questioned. Even when Chuck get's "nasty" he never comes close to the level of the real flamers in rec.boats. I would let this one go, but you will handle this they way you think best. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? |
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
JimH,
I don't know, why don't you ask him. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
Harry,
How is your vacation? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? Yes, I would posit that "Starbuck Smithers" knows exactly how old Gallow is doing. -- Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced priorities. |
I thought I was.
"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, I don't know, why don't you ask him. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
JimH,
If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... I thought I was. "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, I don't know, why don't you ask him. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
Ahh, but I said Gallow, not Gallows.
Interesting. So is it Jim Gallows? "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... I thought I was. "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, I don't know, why don't you ask him. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
JimH,
I have no problems with anything you want to call me, feel free to use Gallow, Gallows, Smithers, Starbuck or Skipper. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... Ahh, but I said Gallow, not Gallows. Interesting. So is it Jim Gallows? "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... I thought I was. "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, I don't know, why don't you ask him. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
PS - If you want, you can even call me Kevin Noble.
"Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, I have no problems with anything you want to call me, feel free to use Gallow, Gallows, Smithers, Starbuck or Skipper. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... Ahh, but I said Gallow, not Gallows. Interesting. So is it Jim Gallows? "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, If you would like to call me Mr. Gallows feel free. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... I thought I was. "Mr. Starbuck" wrote in message ... JimH, I don't know, why don't you ask him. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:15:42 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: I had a suspicion about a guy named Jim Gallow aka 'On Lanier' in Georgia may be the person perpetrating this nasty deed. I did some research on this guy and he has been around here quite a long time and would know the goings on between Skipper and Chuck. He also has cox.net available in his home town. What do you think Starbuck? If anybody wants to pursue this to the logical end, I have the *real* Skipper's name, address, and telephone number...... -- I have no idea if this is the real Skipper or a fake. I invite Chuck to call him to find out. I wonder how Jim Gallow is doing these days? What say you Starbuck? |
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days. Hah! Gene, many thanks for posting this. All these years watching "All in the Family" and I could never understand or figure out the words of this line when they sang it. One of life's great mysteries --- SOLVED! Eisboch |
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:22:48 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:15:58 GMT, Gene Kearns wrote: in pursuit of left-wing-commie-pinko-fags... Ahem - it's long haired hippy type pinko fags. I mean come on. For old farts...... Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade. Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days. Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight. Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days. And you know who you were then, girls were girls and men were men. Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again. People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent. Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days. Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win. Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin. Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song. I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days. Lets see...one of Smithers's aliases...Archie Bunker! |
Harry,
I notice you spend a lot of time obsessing about someone you say you ignore. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:22:48 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:15:58 GMT, Gene Kearns wrote: in pursuit of left-wing-commie-pinko-fags... Ahem - it's long haired hippy type pinko fags. I mean come on. For old farts...... Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade. Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days. Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight. Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days. And you know who you were then, girls were girls and men were men. Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again. People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent. Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days. Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win. Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin. Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song. I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days. Lets see...one of Smithers's aliases...Archie Bunker! There apparently are strong suspicions that the turd known as Smithers is in reality the turd who used to log on here with the real name of Jim Gallow or Gallows. Whatever...you know the old saying, "A turd by any other name still...stinks." -- Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced priorities. |
*JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost *exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster. Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did all the time constituted a lie). The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted "trait". On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be impossible to learn through Google. As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know, but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired. As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't indicate ditzy squat as "proof". As far as other instances where I could search the net and find evidence of you posting at or around the same time as psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-) |
wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost *exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster. Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did all the time constituted a lie). The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted "trait". On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be impossible to learn through Google. As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know, but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired. As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't indicate ditzy squat as "proof". As far as other instances where I could search the net and find evidence of you posting at or around the same time as psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-) You are a pathetic excuse of a man Chuck. You have lost any respect I once had for you. Either offer proof and explain how I can spoof and ISP and IP address or apologize already. I am tired of your allegations based only on suspicion. PS There is another thread today where I posted within minutes after Skipper did. I have offered my *proof*. |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost *exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster. Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did all the time constituted a lie). The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted "trait". On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be impossible to learn through Google. As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know, but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired. As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't indicate ditzy squat as "proof". As far as other instances where I could search the net and find evidence of you posting at or around the same time as psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-) You are a pathetic excuse of a man Chuck. You have lost any respect I once had for you. I wouldn't consider that much of a loss. |
wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost *exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster. Your main defense to this point has been that using that weird style is one of your "traits"......(you'll remember the exchange concerning whether charaterizing you statement to mean it was something you did all the time constituted a lie). The only "lie" would be for me to post that I no longer suspect you are running the sock puppet, when in fact I still do. If I become convinced that you are not the sock puppetmaster, I will post that in this forum at that time and apologize for suspecting you based upon the uncanny alignment of the oddball format in Skipper's post and your admitted "trait". On the occassions when Skipper ever mentioned his business dealings with me, he was always complimentary. Suddenly, five years later, he couldn't be meaner, nastier, or more inconsistent with his previous statements. Nothing that psuedo-Skipper has posted to the NG would be impossible to learn through Google. As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know, but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired. As far as "I posted immediately after Skipper in a political thread about Tom DeLay" So? I am the least computer savvy guy you would ever hope to meet, and even I could post multi-paragraph items minutes apart under several different names. Save to Word in advance, Cut N Paste as desired. Does that mean you did that, exactly? No, but it also doesn't indicate ditzy squat as "proof". As far as other instances where I could search the net and find evidence of you posting at or around the same time as psuedo-Skipper.....so what? All that would prove is that you were on-line when the psuedo-Skipper posts appeared. Some defense. :-) You are a pathetic excuse of a man Chuck. You have lost any respect I once had for you. Either offer proof and explain how I can spoof and ISP and IP address or apologize already. I am tired of your allegations based only on suspicion. PS There is another thread today where I posted within minutes after Skipper did. I have offered my *proof*. I wouldn't consider that much of a loss. So why the hard on for me Chuckster? Why the sudden attack agenda? Has the facade of the calm and cool Chuck Gould finally been lifted? This is more than a misunderstanding on your part at this time. It is a whopper of a lie that you continue with. I await your apology. |
*JimH* wrote:
You are a pathetic excuse of a man, Chuck. You have lost any respect... Ask him how it is the Skipper knows about the black restaurant and that Chucky does not like the food there. Ask him why he showed the Skipper a gas powered Silverton (the boat in question where someone stepped back and reboarded). Ask him if he remembers when the Skipper's knee went out while inspecting a boat...botton line, he *KNOWS* you didn't spoof my posts. -- Skipper |
"Skipper" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: You are a pathetic excuse of a man, Chuck. You have lost any respect... Ask him how it is the Skipper knows about the black restaurant and that Chucky does not like the food there. Ask him why he showed the Skipper a gas powered Silverton (the boat in question where someone stepped back and reboarded). Ask him if he remembers when the Skipper's knee went out while inspecting a boat...botton line, he *KNOWS* you didn't spoof my posts. -- Skipper JimH |
"Skipper" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: You are a pathetic excuse of a man, Chuck. You have lost any respect... Ask him how it is the Skipper knows about the black restaurant and that Chucky does not like the food there. Ask him why he showed the Skipper a gas powered Silverton (the boat in question where someone stepped back and reboarded). Ask him if he remembers when the Skipper's knee went out while inspecting a boat...botton line, he *KNOWS* you didn't spoof my posts. -- Skipper Thank you. I await an apology from Chuck Gould for his whopper lie about me. I wonder if he will be man enough. |
Oh yes, ask him how the real skipper knows a certain trawler was moved
to the junkyard. -- Skipper |
"*JimH*" wrote in message . .. "Skipper" wrote in message ... *JimH* wrote: You are a pathetic excuse of a man, Chuck. You have lost any respect... Ask him how it is the Skipper knows about the black restaurant and that Chucky does not like the food there. Ask him why he showed the Skipper a gas powered Silverton (the boat in question where someone stepped back and reboarded). Ask him if he remembers when the Skipper's knee went out while inspecting a boat...botton line, he *KNOWS* you didn't spoof my posts. -- Skipper JimH I posted this quick post to show a date/time stamp between Skippers post and mine. |
"Skipper" wrote in message ... Oh yes, ask him how the real skipper knows a certain trawler was moved to the junkyard. -- Skipper JimH |
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... "Skipper" wrote in message ... Oh yes, ask him how the real skipper knows a certain trawler was moved to the junkyard. -- Skipper JimH Another quick date/time stamp. We are now about a minute apart on posts. Call me Superman.......or give me the apology I deserve for your whopper lie Chuck. |
Gene Kearns wrote: On 2 Oct 2005 17:01:50 -0700, wrote: *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost *exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster. Chuck, I think you are, most likely, wrong. An analysis of headers between the "real" Skipper of old and the new one leads me to believe that this new one *is* likely a sock puppet, but is probably in the Atlanta area. The IPs and the fact that it was to a cox.net address gave me pause to accept that it *might* be the real Skipper..... As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know, but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired. This recent poster has not, as yet, been able to post in a manner geographically appropriate to the *real* Skipper. Additionally, he has not recognized appropriate "hot buttons" that the real Skipper should have reflexively responded to...... My take? It is a fake. It is a sock puppet. It is a smithers. It is not Jim. Again... if you want to know for sure, I can give you the *real* Skipper's telephone number and/or the information indicating that *this* "Skipper" is not in the correct geographic third of the country.... Thanks, Gene, but Dave's address and phone number are a matter of public record. I can't think of any reason to call him. You seem to agree that Psuedo Skipper is a sock puppet. I drew a conclusion based on the fact that only two posts to this NG, in my memory, have ever been formatted with a reference to a little gem followed by a quote contained in a series of +++++++ signs. That both posts were personal attacks, a week apart, only increases their similarity. My conclusion is that the puppetmaster is the author of the second post with the oddball format, JimH. Another poster, not normally one of my traditional allies, has stated that he would have arrived at the same conclusion, were it not for the ISP. Obviously, that poster is more impressed with an ISP than I am. I wouldn't want to claim that I have incontrovertible proof that it is absolutely JimH, but neither am I going to deny my suspicion that it is. Should the identity of the real puppetmaster ever be confirmed to be somebody other than JimH, I will correct my conclusion and apology for an error. I have no "lie" for which to apologize. The whole episode is becoming a bit absurd. I should just "plonk" the psuedo-Skipper and the suspected puppetmaster and unless he/they turn on Harry, Basskisser, or somebody else the entire rec.boats crap fire over this issue will just burn out. |
wrote in message oups.com... Gene Kearns wrote: On 2 Oct 2005 17:01:50 -0700, wrote: *JimH* wrote: You have spread lies in this NG about me having a sockpuppet posting as the Skipper. I have told you repeated that is not true. Skipper's initial post about you was harsh and uncalled for. I have no bone to pick with you to have done such a thing. His posts also offered specifics that I was never privy to or aware of. Yet you continue to spread the lie without offering any proof, just suspicions. You are the accuser yet I have to prove my innocence as you obviously operate on the theory of guilty till proven innocent. So how is this for proof Chuck? Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. I live in Avon Lake, Ohio. Skipper's ISP is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Now for the real interesting part..........Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I guess I must be Superman to perform that feat. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted, but facts obviously do not concern you. Please explain away these *facts* Chuck. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie about me. Are you man enough Chuck? I have stated that I suspect the current Skipper is a sock puppet. I have stated that because the psuedo-Skipper posted in a very weird style that I did not remember ever seeing before and the only time it appeard again was when you used the *exact* same format and almost *exactly* the same words in another attack post, I have drawn the conclusion that you are the sock puppetmaster. Chuck, I think you are, most likely, wrong. An analysis of headers between the "real" Skipper of old and the new one leads me to believe that this new one *is* likely a sock puppet, but is probably in the Atlanta area. The IPs and the fact that it was to a cox.net address gave me pause to accept that it *might* be the real Skipper..... As far as ISP's, email addresses, etc etc etc etc etc go. Sorry, but not impressed. There are any number of remailing programs and services that people can use to disguise their identity and they have been commonly used in rec.boats in the past. Not by you, as far as I know, but it appears to be fairly easily accomplished when desired. This recent poster has not, as yet, been able to post in a manner geographically appropriate to the *real* Skipper. Additionally, he has not recognized appropriate "hot buttons" that the real Skipper should have reflexively responded to...... My take? It is a fake. It is a sock puppet. It is a smithers. It is not Jim. Again... if you want to know for sure, I can give you the *real* Skipper's telephone number and/or the information indicating that *this* "Skipper" is not in the correct geographic third of the country.... Thanks, Gene, but Dave's address and phone number are a matter of public record. I can't think of any reason to call him. You seem to agree that Psuedo Skipper is a sock puppet. I drew a conclusion based on the fact that only two posts to this NG, in my memory, have ever been formatted with a reference to a little gem followed by a quote contained in a series of +++++++ signs. That both posts were personal attacks, a week apart, only increases their similarity. My conclusion is that the puppetmaster is the author of the second post with the oddball format, JimH. Another poster, not normally one of my traditional allies, has stated that he would have arrived at the same conclusion, were it not for the ISP. Obviously, that poster is more impressed with an ISP than I am. I wouldn't want to claim that I have incontrovertible proof that it is absolutely JimH, but neither am I going to deny my suspicion that it is. Should the identity of the real puppetmaster ever be confirmed to be somebody other than JimH, I will correct my conclusion and apology for an error. I have no "lie" for which to apologize. The whole episode is becoming a bit absurd. I should just "plonk" the psuedo-Skipper and the suspected puppetmaster and unless he/they turn on Harry, Basskisser, or somebody else the entire rec.boats crap fire over this issue will just burn out. A suspicion at first. No problem But it became a lie based on you ignoring facts presented to you Chuck. Yet you continue with it. It is now a whopper of a lie. And I see your spin has begun. Pretty soon the old "Who, me?" card will be played. I await your apology Chuck. |
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