HLAviation wrote:

Dude, stop right there, go to junk yard, buy a decent long block, you'll
save a ton of money in the longrun.

I don't know much about the differences between marine and automotive engines
but are you suggesting a boat junk yard or an automotive? If atomotive, where
can I get a cross reference of the automotive long blocks that will fit my
application (engine mounts, transmission bolt up, etc.). Maybe a chevy 350 is
basically a chevy 350....within certain years anyway?

Dude, as my Japanese friend Hiro say, "Same Same". You can bolt any small
block Chevy from a 265 to a 400 in there using all the same stuff. There's
only one thing to watch for is that later model motors will have the Vortc
heads which require a diferent intake manifold. If you have the four bolts
around the valve cover, look for an engine with that configuration. If
you're valve covers have the bolts through the middle of the top look for
those. I'd look for the engine out of a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup since it
"should" have a 4 bolt main block in it as well as a forged rather than cast
crank. The way to look for this without pulling the oil pan off the engine
is to look at the flange of the crank. If it has a narrow ridge down running
lengthwise with the crank, that is a casting mark, ok, but not the best and
probably has a 2 bolt main. If instead of the narrow peak, it has about a
1/2" wide flattened raised area, that is a forged crank, stronger, and
generally triced up in a 4 bolt main block. With this bottom end
configuration, you can build a very reliable 400hp engine should you choose,
or you can just stick it in the boat as is. The differences (with the
exception of some old Chris Crafts who had special blocks cast to bolt the
trans to the timing chain end of the engine) with marine engines are for the
most part the accessories being spark-proofed. If you are raw water cooled
in salt, you may consider popping in a set of brass freeze plugs, available
from Chevrolet if you can't find them elsewhere.
"bob" wrote in message
...


HLAviation wrote:

Dude, stop right there, go to junk yard, buy a decent long block, you'll
save a ton of money in the longrun.

I don't know much about the differences between marine and automotive
engines
but are you suggesting a boat junk yard or an automotive? If atomotive,
where
can I get a cross reference of the automotive long blocks that will fit my
application (engine mounts, transmission bolt up, etc.). Maybe a chevy
350 is
basically a chevy 350....within certain years anyway?

Actually in 1987 the small block changed from a two piece to a one piece
real seal. At the same time the end of the crank changed and the flywheels
are not interchangable from pre87 and post87. Very late in the 90's lot so
things happened to some of the small blocks but you chances of getting one
of those from a junk yard are slimmer.

"HLAviation" wrote in message
link.net...
Dude, as my Japanese friend Hiro say, "Same Same". You can bolt any small
block Chevy from a 265 to a 400 in there using all the same stuff. There's
only one thing to watch for is that later model motors will have the Vortc
heads which require a diferent intake manifold. If you have the four bolts
around the valve cover, look for an engine with that configuration. If
you're valve covers have the bolts through the middle of the top look for
those. I'd look for the engine out of a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup since it
"should" have a 4 bolt main block in it as well as a forged rather than
cast
crank. The way to look for this without pulling the oil pan off the engine
is to look at the flange of the crank. If it has a narrow ridge down
running
lengthwise with the crank, that is a casting mark, ok, but not the best
and
probably has a 2 bolt main. If instead of the narrow peak, it has about a
1/2" wide flattened raised area, that is a forged crank, stronger, and
generally triced up in a 4 bolt main block. With this bottom end
configuration, you can build a very reliable 400hp engine should you
choose,
or you can just stick it in the boat as is. The differences (with the
exception of some old Chris Crafts who had special blocks cast to bolt the
trans to the timing chain end of the engine) with marine engines are for
the
most part the accessories being spark-proofed. If you are raw water cooled
in salt, you may consider popping in a set of brass freeze plugs,
available
from Chevrolet if you can't find them elsewhere.
"bob" wrote in message
...


HLAviation wrote:

Dude, stop right there, go to junk yard, buy a decent long block,
you'll
save a ton of money in the longrun.

I don't know much about the differences between marine and automotive
engines
but are you suggesting a boat junk yard or an automotive? If atomotive,
where
can I get a cross reference of the automotive long blocks that will fit
my
application (engine mounts, transmission bolt up, etc.). Maybe a chevy
350 is
basically a chevy 350....within certain years anyway?

Good catch, forgot about the flywheel, but they are readily available for
either crank. As for the late 90s change, I don't consider the LS series
engines as "Small Block Chevys". There's a lot of things they did with them
that I like, especially the intake ports in the head, but there's some
bottom end things they couldhave done better.

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
nk.net...
Actually in 1987 the small block changed from a two piece to a one piece
real seal. At the same time the end of the crank changed and the
flywheels
are not interchangable from pre87 and post87. Very late in the 90's lot
so
things happened to some of the small blocks but you chances of getting one
of those from a junk yard are slimmer.

"HLAviation" wrote in message
link.net...
Dude, as my Japanese friend Hiro say, "Same Same". You can bolt any
small
block Chevy from a 265 to a 400 in there using all the same stuff.
There's
only one thing to watch for is that later model motors will have the
Vortc
heads which require a diferent intake manifold. If you have the four
bolts
around the valve cover, look for an engine with that configuration. If
you're valve covers have the bolts through the middle of the top look
for
those. I'd look for the engine out of a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup since it
"should" have a 4 bolt main block in it as well as a forged rather than
cast
crank. The way to look for this without pulling the oil pan off the
engine
is to look at the flange of the crank. If it has a narrow ridge down
running
lengthwise with the crank, that is a casting mark, ok, but not the best
and
probably has a 2 bolt main. If instead of the narrow peak, it has about
a
1/2" wide flattened raised area, that is a forged crank, stronger, and
generally triced up in a 4 bolt main block. With this bottom end
configuration, you can build a very reliable 400hp engine should you
choose,
or you can just stick it in the boat as is. The differences (with the
exception of some old Chris Crafts who had special blocks cast to bolt
the
trans to the timing chain end of the engine) with marine engines are for
the
most part the accessories being spark-proofed. If you are raw water
cooled
in salt, you may consider popping in a set of brass freeze plugs,
available
from Chevrolet if you can't find them elsewhere.
"bob" wrote in message
...


HLAviation wrote:

Dude, stop right there, go to junk yard, buy a decent long block,
you'll
save a ton of money in the longrun.

I don't know much about the differences between marine and automotive
engines
but are you suggesting a boat junk yard or an automotive? If
atomotive,
where
can I get a cross reference of the automotive long blocks that will
fit
my
application (engine mounts, transmission bolt up, etc.). Maybe a
chevy
350 is
basically a chevy 350....within certain years anyway?

HLAviation wrote:

Good catch, forgot about the flywheel, but they are readily available for
either crank. As for the late 90s change, I don't consider the LS series
engines as "Small Block Chevys". There's a lot of things they did with them
that I like, especially the intake ports in the head, but there's some
bottom end things they couldhave done better.

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
nk.net...
Actually in 1987 the small block changed from a two piece to a one piece
real seal. At the same time the end of the crank changed and the
flywheels
are not interchangable from pre87 and post87. Very late in the 90's lot
so
things happened to some of the small blocks but you chances of getting one
of those from a junk yard are slimmer.

"HLAviation" wrote in message
link.net...
Dude, as my Japanese friend Hiro say, "Same Same". You can bolt any
small
block Chevy from a 265 to a 400 in there using all the same stuff.
There's
only one thing to watch for is that later model motors will have the
Vortc
heads which require a diferent intake manifold. If you have the four
bolts
around the valve cover, look for an engine with that configuration. If
you're valve covers have the bolts through the middle of the top look
for
those. I'd look for the engine out of a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup since it
"should" have a 4 bolt main block in it as well as a forged rather than
cast
crank. The way to look for this without pulling the oil pan off the
engine
is to look at the flange of the crank. If it has a narrow ridge down
running
lengthwise with the crank, that is a casting mark, ok, but not the best
and
probably has a 2 bolt main. If instead of the narrow peak, it has about
a
1/2" wide flattened raised area, that is a forged crank, stronger, and
generally triced up in a 4 bolt main block. With this bottom end
configuration, you can build a very reliable 400hp engine should you
choose,
or you can just stick it in the boat as is. The differences (with the
exception of some old Chris Crafts who had special blocks cast to bolt
the
trans to the timing chain end of the engine) with marine engines are for
the
most part the accessories being spark-proofed. If you are raw water
cooled
in salt, you may consider popping in a set of brass freeze plugs,
available
from Chevrolet if you can't find them elsewhere.
"bob" wrote in message
...


HLAviation wrote:

Dude, stop right there, go to junk yard, buy a decent long block,
you'll
save a ton of money in the longrun.

I don't know much about the differences between marine and automotive
engines
but are you suggesting a boat junk yard or an automotive? If
atomotive,
where
can I get a cross reference of the automotive long blocks that will
fit
my
application (engine mounts, transmission bolt up, etc.). Maybe a
chevy
350 is
basically a chevy 350....within certain years anyway?






Head shop says it was cracked at #5 and #7 so got my answer on where the water
came from. Shop says "looks like it froze". I doubt that is what happened
(failed in July in Texas).. but I did overheat it last summer and replaced both
head gaskets and had both heads checked and rebuilt. Maybe overheating caused
a small crack to form that wasn't detected by magnaflux...

Anyway, found 2 "old style" heads (valve cover bolts on outside rim but mine
has bolts down center) from a marine engine that the guy said would fit. Paid
$200 so if they don't fit I should be able to sell easy enough. From the advice
I've gotten so far, the only problem would be if they were vortec heads as they
intake fits different, but I'm pretty sure vortec 350s came out in 1996 (the
boat was built in 1992).

Again, any comments or advice appreciated.
Thanks,
Bobby
bbusselman at hotmail dot com