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Snoopy July 16th 04 04:54 PM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
My dad is thinking about buying a sportboat.
Want to be able to waterski
Carry say 8 persons
But also maybe fish on open sea (Carib)
Also butget wise he is thinking of a Bayliner 215 Classic.
I'm wondering what is the (open) seaworthiness of such a Bayliner?

TIA
Frank

Harry Krause July 16th 04 05:02 PM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
Snoopy wrote:

My dad is thinking about buying a sportboat.
Want to be able to waterski
Carry say 8 persons
But also maybe fish on open sea (Carib)
Also butget wise he is thinking of a Bayliner 215 Classic.
I'm wondering what is the (open) seaworthiness of such a Bayliner?

TIA
Frank



Low, but more because of its design (which is shared by lots of
manufacturers) than its nameplate. Boats of that size and style in the
hands of newbies are best kept within sight of shore.

Snoopy July 16th 04 07:10 PM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 12:02:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Snoopy wrote:

My dad is thinking about buying a sportboat.
Want to be able to waterski
Carry say 8 persons
But also maybe fish on open sea (Carib)
Also butget wise he is thinking of a Bayliner 215 Classic.
I'm wondering what is the (open) seaworthiness of such a Bayliner?

TIA
Frank



Low, but more because of its design (which is shared by lots of
manufacturers) than its nameplate. Boats of that size and style in the
hands of newbies are best kept within sight of shore.


What specifically about it's design? The hull design ? If so are the
comparable boats from other manufactures with better hull design for
offshore.
At which specs should we be looking at for better offshore
performance.

Harry Krause July 16th 04 07:37 PM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
Snoopy wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 12:02:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Snoopy wrote:

My dad is thinking about buying a sportboat.
Want to be able to waterski
Carry say 8 persons
But also maybe fish on open sea (Carib)
Also butget wise he is thinking of a Bayliner 215 Classic.
I'm wondering what is the (open) seaworthiness of such a Bayliner?

TIA
Frank



Low, but more because of its design (which is shared by lots of
manufacturers) than its nameplate. Boats of that size and style in the
hands of newbies are best kept within sight of shore.


What specifically about it's design? The hull design ? If so are the
comparable boats from other manufactures with better hull design for
offshore.
At which specs should we be looking at for better offshore
performance.




Closed bow, more freeboard, taller bow, more bow flare, fewer seats
(fewer people onboard), larger fuel tanks, double batteries, full
electronics.
I don't know that boat's specifics, but I'd bet it has fuel capacity of
less than 50 gallons and a large V6 or small V8 engine.
Of course, I'm not sure what you mean by open sea. Are youplanning to go
20 or more miles offshore? What have you in mind?

jim July 17th 04 11:58 PM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
i had an older 20ft cuddy. took in in Half Moon Bay for fishing in chops
and12ft swells.


Jim




Snoopy wrote:

My dad is thinking about buying a sportboat.
Want to be able to waterski
Carry say 8 persons
But also maybe fish on open sea (Carib)
Also butget wise he is thinking of a Bayliner 215 Classic.
I'm wondering what is the (open) seaworthiness of such a Bayliner?

TIA
Frank



JAXAshby July 18th 04 12:06 AM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
I don't believe this thread exists. [head shakes]



Snoopy July 18th 04 03:23 AM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 

On 17 Jul 2004 23:06:36 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I don't believe this thread exists. [head shakes]


Ok you exists (unfortunately)
Now crawl back under your stone! [sigh]

Gould 0738 July 18th 04 04:52 AM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
I don't believe this thread exists. [head shakes]

Worse yet, I'm sure that somebody is about to chime in and *insist* that a
21-foot Bayliner has a diesel engine.

Frank Hopkins July 18th 04 05:22 AM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 
Hi Frank,

If you are planning extensive offshore usage in anything but ideal weather
and conditions, you will want to re-think a Bayliner. Bayliners have a bad
reputation for hull failures in heavy water. (See N.T.S.B. sinking reports
at Coast Guard website.) Also, the boat is built with a lot of wood, which
rots eventually. This is why they are so cheap to get into. Bayliners also
depreciate very fast too. If budget is your primary motivation, you would be
better off with a better quality used boat.

Capt. Frank Hopkins
www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks



"Snoopy" wrote in message
...
My dad is thinking about buying a sportboat.
Want to be able to waterski
Carry say 8 persons
But also maybe fish on open sea (Carib)
Also butget wise he is thinking of a Bayliner 215 Classic.
I'm wondering what is the (open) seaworthiness of such a Bayliner?

TIA
Frank




Calif Bill July 18th 04 06:14 AM

Newbee question. Bayliners on open sea
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I don't believe this thread exists. [head shakes]


Worse yet, I'm sure that somebody is about to chime in and *insist* that a
21-foot Bayliner has a diesel engine.


A 21-foot Bayliner requires a diesel engine to go more than 500' offshore.
That good enough Chuck?




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