Pardon me while I wipe the spittle off my monitor. Al we have gotten
from the Bush-****ters the last three years are lies, thievery and
thuggery.


According to you, but there still is no proof to back that up. And
your opinion on this is worth exactly......... Nothing!

Dave


Dave,

The statement that *all* we have seen from Bush and his band is thievery,
thuggery, and lies is extreme.

But, if you dare, follow this link.

http://www.house.gov/appropriations_...ughtonfilm.htm

You'll see two Bushes there. In the middle column, you'll find the Bush of PR
Legend-
a man that many thoughtful people would support and undoubetdly the Bush that
you defend with such passion. In the right hand column you'll find the actual
Bush of
closed-door politics, committing acts that put a direct lie to his own words.

If you know of any facts in the right hand column that are misstated, what
would they be?

This illustrates why some of us will be voting for change, rather than a
candidate, in a few months. :-)

On 13 Jul 2004 16:24:52 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Pardon me while I wipe the spittle off my monitor. Al we have gotten
from the Bush-****ters the last three years are lies, thievery and
thuggery.


According to you, but there still is no proof to back that up. And
your opinion on this is worth exactly......... Nothing!

Dave


Dave,

The statement that *all* we have seen from Bush and his band is thievery,
thuggery, and lies is extreme.

But, if you dare, follow this link.

http://www.house.gov/appropriations_...ughtonfilm.htm

You'll see two Bushes there. In the middle column, you'll find the Bush of PR
Legend-
a man that many thoughtful people would support and undoubetdly the Bush that
you defend with such passion. In the right hand column you'll find the actual
Bush of
closed-door politics, committing acts that put a direct lie to his own words.

If you know of any facts in the right hand column that are misstated, what
would they be?

Well, the one thing that stood out immediately to me is that with all
of those supposed budget cuts, just where is the huge spending (other
than on the war) that you guys on the left are claiming is running up
the deficit? Surely SOMEONE is getting increased funding. The tax cuts
didn't make that much of a dent in the budget.

It also proved you wrong on at least one issue. In that it claimed
that : " Additionally, in August, Bush vetoed $6.25M for promised pay
upgrades for Border Patrol agents". If true, this blows a hole in the
often claimed assertion that "Bush has never vetoed any bill".

This illustrates why some of us will be voting for change, rather than a
candidate, in a few months. :-)

Some change. A guy who WILL raise our taxes. That's money out of my
pocket. There's no way I would EVER vote for someone who promoted the
idea of raising taxes.

Dave

Some change. A guy who WILL raise our taxes. That's money out of my
pocket. There's no way I would EVER vote for someone who promoted the
idea of raising taxes.

Dave


??????

And here I thought you were a Bush voter.

You think all the red ink we're piling up
is just going to go away by magic and that no taxes will *ever* be required to
pay for it?

The current admin and congress is spending *your* money at a furious pace.
Don't be so comforted that they haven't come 'round with the due bill,....not
yet.

You can't spend money without income to offset it. Aren't you gops supposed to
be business majors? :-)

On 14 Jul 2004 16:55:41 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Some change. A guy who WILL raise our taxes. That's money out of my
pocket. There's no way I would EVER vote for someone who promoted the
idea of raising taxes.

Dave


??????

And here I thought you were a Bush voter.

You think all the red ink we're piling up
is just going to go away by magic and that no taxes will *ever* be required to
pay for it?

The current admin and congress is spending *your* money at a furious pace.
Don't be so comforted that they haven't come 'round with the due bill,....not
yet.

You can't spend money without income to offset it. Aren't you gops supposed to
be business majors? :-)


Yes, and that's why we don't run from the word "deficit" like a bunch
of chicken littles. A deficit can be carried almost indefinitely and
paid off gradually, and not require a huge hike in taxes to pay off.
Once the war ends, and if we continue to hold a tight rein on the
purse strings, the deficit will drop.

On the other hand, if Kerry wins and somehow manages to bring his idea
of universal secondary education and healthcare to reality, I'd like
to know just how he plans to pay for that additional enormous drain on
the budget?

I guess he'll just tax those "darn rich people" again. But what
happens when the rich get fed up with the ever increasing "sin taxes"
that have been leveled against them, and simply move out of the
country? Who will be left to take up the slack?

Dave

Dave Hall wrote:



I guess he'll just tax those "darn rich people" again. But what
happens when the rich get fed up with the ever increasing "sin taxes"
that have been leveled against them, and simply move out of the
country?

Good riddance.


Who will be left to take up the slack?

Dave

Schlepps like you, of course.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:15:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:



I guess he'll just tax those "darn rich people" again. But what
happens when the rich get fed up with the ever increasing "sin taxes"
that have been leveled against them, and simply move out of the
country?

Good riddance.


Who will be left to take up the slack?

Dave

Schlepps like you, of course.

And you.

Dave

Dave Hall wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:15:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:



I guess he'll just tax those "darn rich people" again. But what
happens when the rich get fed up with the ever increasing "sin taxes"
that have been leveled against them, and simply move out of the
country?

Good riddance.


Who will be left to take up the slack?

Dave

Schlepps like you, of course.

And you.

Dave


I pay lots of taxes and am happy to do so.

Dave Hall slobbered the words and they were typed:

Yes, and that's why we don't run from the word "deficit" like a bunch
of chicken littles. A deficit can be carried almost indefinitely and
paid off gradually, and not require a huge hike in taxes to pay off.
Once the war ends, and if we continue to hold a tight rein on the
purse strings, the deficit will drop.

snip
Dave

Yeh,,,,right,,, My great,great,grandchildren are supposed to continue to pay
for mistakes like, invading a third world country, for no real reason, and
the lack of honor to own up to the mistake. Then run the whole thing in a
half-assed manner. Allowing our troops to be in harms way. Telling us, all
the while, how much safer we are now.

The crimminals that attacked us should have been through a trial by now.
Instead, we look for them when it's politically convienent.

The only thing I see is an indefinite increase in the deficit, at an
indefinite rate, with no end in sight.
That's what it means to be conservative. The party of Spend & Spend and
never pay it off.

This is righteous to your way of thinking.
Another one that thinks bankruptcy is debt consolidation.

But that's NOT what you'd have us believe.




I say BULL****!


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