Then, did you not turn around and say that, yes you were licensed as
an engineer in GA?

No, NEVER did I say I was a Licensed Engineer in GA or Fl

Then, did you not turn around and say that you were licensed in GA
through reciprocity?

Again, Limited Energy License.

No such animal in Georgia. Show proof.

Your right, in Ga it is called Georgia LV-T or LV-G

There is NO reciprocity for a contractor's license in GA.

As usual, you are wrong.
From Florida Department of Business Regulation-

Let's see, I said there is no reciprocity for a contractor's license
in GA, and you give me crap about FL!!!! What a stupid man,
JoeTechnician.

Call it want you want. If I want to contract in Ga, I can.
Takes nothing more than providing a copy of my Fl license and $20 or $30
dollars.


2. Q. Does Florida endorse with other states?
A. Yes. Florida has endorsement agreements with Georgia and North
Carolina.

An indorsement for a common contractors license is in NO WAY
reciprocity. Please prove reciprocity with GA.

What's an "indorsement" Dummy?


The following is an endorsement matrix listing the license categories:
Florida Unlimited (EC) = North Carolina Unlimited
Florida Unlimited (EC) = Georgia Class II plus LV-U
Florida Alarm I (EF) = Georgia LV- U
Florida Alarm II (EG) = Georgia LV-A
Florida Residential Specialty (ES) = Georgia Class I
Florida (Low Voltage) Limited Energy (ES) = Georgia LV-T or LV-G

So freaking what??? This shows that you can get a CONTRACTOR'S license
in Georgia. ANYBODY can!!!

Think so? You're getting dumber by the minute, Dummy

Let's get back to the part where you claim
to be an engineer. I could care less whether you can pull wire in the
ceiling of an office building. I originally said you weren't an
engineer in GA and you aren't.

I am currently employed as a Telecommunications Engineer.
I have never said I was a Licensed Engineer in Ga. You are the one that is
stuck on the notion that to be a "Engineer" you MUST be a "Licensed
Engineer" or a "Professional Engineer".

You never answered my question concerning the Engineers at NASA that do not
hold P.E.'s.
Do you think they're Engineers?

My Limited Energy License is not so *I* can pull wire in buildings, it so I
can hire people to install communications cabling, and equipment in
buildings. You do not personally need any license to install, only the
contracting company does.
I ONLY use/need this license when I contract out to the public. At the
moment I am under contract in an Engineering role and not contracting out to
the public.


Also, a contractor's license is a LONG way from a license to practice
engineering.

Again, since I don't need it, I don't have it.
When I *do* Engineer systems my plans are incorporated into the Division
16
plans and stamped by a P.E.

You mean when you pull wire?

Please keep it a secret that I pull wire.
I wouldn't want my current employer to know that a "wire puller" is
designing their new long haul SONET network.

"Joe" wrote in message ...
Then, did you not turn around and say that, yes you were licensed as
an engineer in GA?

No, NEVER did I say I was a Licensed Engineer in GA or Fl

Then, did you not turn around and say that you were licensed in GA
through reciprocity?

Again, Limited Energy License.

No such animal in Georgia. Show proof.

Your right, in Ga it is called Georgia LV-T or LV-G

There is NO reciprocity for a contractor's license in GA.

As usual, you are wrong.
From Florida Department of Business Regulation-

Let's see, I said there is no reciprocity for a contractor's license
in GA, and you give me crap about FL!!!! What a stupid man,
JoeTechnician.

Call it want you want. If I want to contract in Ga, I can.
Takes nothing more than providing a copy of my Fl license and $20 or $30
dollars.

Yes, as I said, anybody with a few bucks can get a contractor's
license in GA. Now, just what WAS that Georgia reciprosity for? Huh?
You've come a long way in your lie. First, you were an engineer in FL,
and GA. Now you are a contractor, with a normal every day contractor's
license. NOW you've just eluded to the fact that you don't HAVE a
license in GA, but can get one for $20. So, what WAS that reciprosity
for??


2. Q. Does Florida endorse with other states?
A. Yes. Florida has endorsement agreements with Georgia and North
Carolina.

An indorsement for a common contractors license is in NO WAY
reciprocity. Please prove reciprocity with GA.

What's an "indorsement" Dummy?

Gone so far in your LIE that you have to correct spelling? How about
some REAL questions:
Where are you licensed as an engineer again? OH, FL and GA.
Reciprosity in GA. But now you are claiming that you can get a
contractors license. ANYBODY can. Now you are saying you CAN get a GA
contractor's license. Reciprosity was for???


The following is an endorsement matrix listing the license categories:
Florida Unlimited (EC) = North Carolina Unlimited
Florida Unlimited (EC) = Georgia Class II plus LV-U
Florida Alarm I (EF) = Georgia LV- U
Florida Alarm II (EG) = Georgia LV-A
Florida Residential Specialty (ES) = Georgia Class I
Florida (Low Voltage) Limited Energy (ES) = Georgia LV-T or LV-G

So freaking what??? This shows that you can get a CONTRACTOR'S license
in Georgia. ANYBODY can!!!

Think so? You're getting dumber by the minute, Dummy

Let's get back to the part where you claim
to be an engineer. I could care less whether you can pull wire in the
ceiling of an office building. I originally said you weren't an
engineer in GA and you aren't.

I am currently employed as a Telecommunications Engineer.
I have never said I was a Licensed Engineer in Ga. You are the one that is
stuck on the notion that to be a "Engineer" you MUST be a "Licensed
Engineer" or a "Professional Engineer".

You never answered my question concerning the Engineers at NASA that do not
hold P.E.'s.
Do you think they're Engineers?

No. They are scientists. They may be educated as engineers. They may
or may not be licensed as engineers.

My Limited Energy License is not so *I* can pull wire in buildings, it so I
can hire people to install communications cabling, and equipment in
buildings. You do not personally need any license to install, only the
contracting company does.
I ONLY use/need this license when I contract out to the public. At the
moment I am under contract in an Engineering role and not contracting out to
the public.


Also, a contractor's license is a LONG way from a license to practice
engineering.

Again, since I don't need it, I don't have it.
When I *do* Engineer systems my plans are incorporated into the Division
16
plans and stamped by a P.E.

You mean when you pull wire?

Please keep it a secret that I pull wire.
I wouldn't want my current employer to know that a "wire puller" is
designing their new long haul SONET network.

Yeah, sure, JoeTechnician. You've been caught in a very long winded
lie. Should I recap just exactly what you've claimed, and then backed
away from, thus far?

Please keep it a secret that I pull wire.
I wouldn't want my current employer to know that a "wire puller" is
designing their new long haul SONET network.

Yeah, sure, JoeTechnician. You've been caught in a very long winded
lie. Should I recap just exactly what you've claimed-

Dont bother, I'll do it for you.
Here is exactly what I stated, in order from" The Bush Economy Stinks...and
Sinks" thread

1- I am an Engineer.

2- My title is "Telecommunications Infrastructure Engineer". I am licensed
in
Fl and Ga as a Limited Energy Specialist, and hold the professional
designation of RCDD. (Registered Communications Distribution Designer)

3- Not required nor available for Communications Engineering in FL or GA.
RCDD is the industry standard for communications engineering. 90% plus large
industry/government contracts require an RCDD stamped approval for all
communications design plans, and an RCDD onsite during installation for
QA/QC and PM.

4- Hey Asslicker, I never said I was a P.E.
Only 1 in 5 engineers are, or need to be. My specialty comes under Division
16 (Electrical) and must be stamped by a PE after my design.
5- I NEVER said I was an Registered Engineer in Georgia and Florida. I said
I
was licensed in Fl with (reciprocity in GA) as a Limited Energy Specialist.
I specifically stated that I was a "Telecommunications Infrastructure
Engineer".
6- One last time I shall try to explain to you.
I am an Engineer. A Telecommunications Engineer. My degree, experience,
responsibilities, and duties dictate this title within my organization.
I do ALL of the Telecommunications Engineering. My plans are inserted into
the Division 16 plans, and stamped by a P.E. when completed.
I am NOT a P.E., nor Registered, nor Certified, and never stated so.
I do NOT currently offer my services directly to the public. I work for an
Engineering Firm.
My title within my organization is legal, you may dispute this but it is
true. Read the law thoroughly.

The BICSI Registered Communications Distribution Designer (RCDD)
certification that I hold is required on most large contracts, from the
Engineering of the systems through to the project management and QC of the
installation. This has been added to most specifications due to the limited
knowledge of these systems by most P.E.'s. It may hurt your feelings but
most customers do NOT want a P.E. designing their communications
infrastructure.

My Limited Energy Specialty License is not required in my present position.
This license allows me to do all of the designing, pulling of permits,
hiring crews, etc, for any communications infrastructure or low voltage
projects in Fl, and Ga for which I directly contract with the public. I do
not need a P.E. to stamp my plans when contracting to the customer in
existing buildings. I submit my plans directly to the County in which the
work is performed.
I can not publicly advertise myself as an Engineer when contracting in this
role nor ever said I could.

TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE ENGINEER within my current organization.
RCDD since it is required on most large contracts.
LIMITED ENERGY SPECIALTY LICENSE when I contract directly to the public.

Understand now?

"Joe" wrote in message ...
Please keep it a secret that I pull wire.
I wouldn't want my current employer to know that a "wire puller" is
designing their new long haul SONET network.

Yeah, sure, JoeTechnician. You've been caught in a very long winded
lie. Should I recap just exactly what you've claimed-

Dont bother, I'll do it for you.
Here is exactly what I stated, in order from" The Bush Economy Stinks...and
Sinks" thread

1- I am an Engineer.

2- My title is "Telecommunications Infrastructure Engineer". I am licensed
in
Fl and Ga as a Limited Energy Specialist, and hold the professional
designation of RCDD. (Registered Communications Distribution Designer)

3- Not required nor available for Communications Engineering in FL or GA.
RCDD is the industry standard for communications engineering. 90% plus large
industry/government contracts require an RCDD stamped approval for all
communications design plans, and an RCDD onsite during installation for
QA/QC and PM.

4- Hey Asslicker, I never said I was a P.E.
Only 1 in 5 engineers are, or need to be. My specialty comes under Division
16 (Electrical) and must be stamped by a PE after my design.
5- I NEVER said I was an Registered Engineer in Georgia and Florida. I said
I
was licensed in Fl with (reciprocity in GA) as a Limited Energy Specialist.
I specifically stated that I was a "Telecommunications Infrastructure
Engineer".
6- One last time I shall try to explain to you.
I am an Engineer. A Telecommunications Engineer. My degree, experience,
responsibilities, and duties dictate this title within my organization.
I do ALL of the Telecommunications Engineering. My plans are inserted into
the Division 16 plans, and stamped by a P.E. when completed.
I am NOT a P.E., nor Registered, nor Certified, and never stated so.
I do NOT currently offer my services directly to the public. I work for an
Engineering Firm.
My title within my organization is legal, you may dispute this but it is
true. Read the law thoroughly.

The BICSI Registered Communications Distribution Designer (RCDD)
certification that I hold is required on most large contracts, from the
Engineering of the systems through to the project management and QC of the
installation. This has been added to most specifications due to the limited
knowledge of these systems by most P.E.'s. It may hurt your feelings but
most customers do NOT want a P.E. designing their communications
infrastructure.

My Limited Energy Specialty License is not required in my present position.
This license allows me to do all of the designing, pulling of permits,
hiring crews, etc, for any communications infrastructure or low voltage
projects in Fl, and Ga for which I directly contract with the public. I do
not need a P.E. to stamp my plans when contracting to the customer in
existing buildings. I submit my plans directly to the County in which the
work is performed.
I can not publicly advertise myself as an Engineer when contracting in this
role nor ever said I could.

TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE ENGINEER within my current organization.
RCDD since it is required on most large contracts.
LIMITED ENERGY SPECIALTY LICENSE when I contract directly to the public.

Understand now?

Absolutely, I've always understood:

You are not recognized in ANY state as an engineer.
You are a contractor.
Reciprocity in Georgia is a lie. You can't get reciprocity for a
contractor's license.
In the next post, you stated that in Florida, that a person can't even
build a deck without a PE stamping drawings to be submitted, but now
you claim that you can design, and build a complete communciations
infrastructure without having drawings stamped and signed by a PE??
Anybody can call THEMSELVES an engineer, including the man that picks
up my garbage. I think I'll call my wife, who owns a daycare center, a
Childcare Engineer. While I'm at it, I'll just tell everybody she's
licensed in Georgia, and has reciprocity in Florida...yeah, that's
it!!!