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![]() "basskisser" wrote in message om... "Rural Knight" wrote in message news:Jh6_a.9562 Yeah - I would in fact. In particular for Connecticut. Curiosity ya know? Later, Tom Tom, straight from the State of Conn. website, go there for the complete, very long verbage: ~~ snippage ~~ Yes - that isn't the point of discussion though. I understand the Professional Engineer qualifications - I understand that part. I've said so - let me reiterate - I UNDERSTAND THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER QUALIFICATIONS AND THE NEED THEREOF. Just for the sake of discussion and curiosity (once more): You stated (complete exchange before I started): "Joe" wrote in message ... And I like to do Crown Molding and upgrades to homes and condos. Bill Practicing coping without a P.E license? Wait till asskisser hears about this! Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a license. Prove me wrong. Come on, JoeTechnician." To which I replied with a reference and site URL that basically said that yes, you can practice as an engineer, you just can't call yourself a Professional Engineer (more on which, later). Subsequently, you stated (in the following post): ------------------------------------------------------------------ "You can NOT call yourself an engineer, have "engineer" in the name of your company, etc. unless you are licensed to practice engineering in that particular state, and like you've said, most states are typical. The key to your example, is that the FIRM needs to have a licensed engineer on staff. The rest, are designers. If you take the whole picture into context, it changes. If you take just the parts that you've snipped, then there would never be a need for anybody to be a licensed professional engineer." ------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, this begs an interesting question. Other than the Professional License process, nowhere in the licensure process in the State of Connecticut does "Engineering License" appear with two exceptions: Architect and Professional Engineer. Does not say you have to have a license to call yourself an Engineer of any discipline, run a business as an Engineer of any discipline, be an Engineer of any discipline or practice as an Engineering Consultant of any discipline. Thus, one can BE an engineer, can call oneself an engineer, act as an engineer, run an engineering business - in short, do everything except be a Professional Engineer which has a separate set of qualifications. (And before you go there, yes, I recognize that you need to have a license to run a business, but that is for tax purposes, referral and other business type stuff not what you can call the business or yourself.) Reference: http://www.ct-clic.com/alpha.asp?g=1 As I asked in another post to which you have yet to respond: Let's say I have an engineering degree (M.E), Masters - Applied Materials Science and a PhD in Mathematics - I cannot be an engineer unless I pass some sort of license and/or professional practicum governed by either the state or peer review? Or let's take this case - I graduate from MIT as a ME, I am hired as an ME, I work for the company as an ME and I cannot call myself an ME unless the state or professional organization recognizes me as such? Once again just so we can keep the discussion on track: I recognize the need for professional engineers - my argument is with the term engineer. One cannot be something unless one is something. My argument is that one can be an engineer even if it is at a junior or precept level. To wit: If I give a design project to a junior engineer and I observe, review and approve his resulting efforts, is that junior engineer not an engineer? Later, Tom |
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