drive engine's plugs, you say? a tad dense, are you hoary?

so, hoary, the drunken Andrea Gail crew really didn't clean the drive
engines
plugs the night before it sailed?


Drive engines? The AG had what, dual Evinrudes?




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ubject: The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/21/2004 05:35 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

try "engine's".

shen, nobody on planet proofreads their copy in anticipation that you, shen,
might read it.


Anyone with a lick of sense does.

Shen

There's the old Continental Model LDS-465-1A. 600hp Multi Fuel. Miltary
surplus for the most part, you can still buy them pretty cheap. They run on
diesel and use spark plugs. There's a good nuber of them out there
propelling mid size commercial fishing boats still.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
so, base kisser, just *which* diesel engines (as used on longliner fishing
boats) have spark plugs did you say?

base kisser, you stated the engine on the Andrea Gail might well have
had
**ELECTRICAL** ---- PLUGS ---- on its drive engine and the only
diesel
engine
you could name that you felt had **ELECTRICAL PLUGS** was
a --------------
Perkinns -------------- 4-108.

base kisser? do you always have this much trouble trying to read
English?

base kisser, the discussion has always been about the engine in the
Andrea
Gail
(check the headline). so why hell are *you* talking about fishing
from
a
bridge over some fricken' creek?????

Again, stupid, please show where I've ever said anything about the
Andrea Gail and a Perkins diesel.



Again, you stupid ****ing idiot, I NEVER mentioned any particular
diesel engine. Damn it, will you LOOK at the damned posts before
making such dumb statements?

Don't get riled up, there's plenty of diesel burning engines out there that
use spark plugs. They date all the way back to pre WWI and are still being
produced today, there's even a Wankel varient. Lot's of the bigger surplus
ones are still out there in work boats and trucks. In the 70s you could even
buy a Toyota Land Cruiser with one of these Multi Fuel engines.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
so, base kisser, just *which* diesel engines (as used on longliner
fishing
boats) have spark plugs did you say?

Man, you are an absolute idiot! I NEVER said ANY diesel engines had
"spark plugs", you ****ing moron! I said diesel engines, and the
engine room of boats have many types of plugs. YOU are the dumb ass
who is claiming that when the author mentioned cleaning plugs, that it
had to have meant SPARK plugs. Are you too stupid to even realize what
you've said?

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
so base kisser, have ever asked a mechanic about all those **plugs** on
a
diesel engine that might be cleaned by a drunken longliner crew the
night
before they sailed.

base kisser, you don't know a Stilson from a Dykes, but are are gonna
tell us
how to clean **plugs** on a diesel using a broken jack knife.

Oh, come on, you're playing with us, aren't you? You can't POSSIBLY be
that stupid!!!!

Never underestimate the stupidity of JAX.

"HLAviation" wrote in message
ink.net...
There's the old Continental Model LDS-465-1A. 600hp Multi Fuel. Miltary
surplus for the most part, you can still buy them pretty cheap. They run
on
diesel and use spark plugs. There's a good nuber of them out there
propelling mid size commercial fishing boats still.

Oh I love this engine and they can be had for a relatively small amount of
money. I actually use a picture of one in a duce and half as my desk top
picture (yea I'm weird). I also have a copy of the military service manual
for the engine. It is actually a descent read (see comment about in
prentices)... I am surprised to hear they are being used in boats. I had
considered this but figured you can't get a marine transmission with a bell
housing that would fit the engine. I wanted to build a nice steel hulled
boat about 35ft with a small front cabin and though two of these would be a
great way to power it. In diesel trim they only produce anywhere from 190
to 230hp so two may be a little more power then what is necessary but it
would sound great. Especially with the turbo chirp that is common with
these engines...

mark

The one that is in the Duece and a half is a smaller motor I think. These
were used in 5 ton plus trucks and track vehicles I think. If I'm not
mistaken they have a standard SAE bobtail.

"rock_doctor" wrote in message
groups.com...

"HLAviation" wrote in message
ink.net...
There's the old Continental Model LDS-465-1A. 600hp Multi Fuel. Miltary
surplus for the most part, you can still buy them pretty cheap. They run
on
diesel and use spark plugs. There's a good nuber of them out there
propelling mid size commercial fishing boats still.

Oh I love this engine and they can be had for a relatively small amount of
money. I actually use a picture of one in a duce and half as my desk top
picture (yea I'm weird). I also have a copy of the military service
manual
for the engine. It is actually a descent read (see comment about in
prentices)... I am surprised to hear they are being used in boats. I had
considered this but figured you can't get a marine transmission with a
bell
housing that would fit the engine. I wanted to build a nice steel hulled
boat about 35ft with a small front cabin and though two of these would be
a
great way to power it. In diesel trim they only produce anywhere from 190
to 230hp so two may be a little more power then what is necessary but it
would sound great. Especially with the turbo chirp that is common with
these engines...

mark

"HLAviation" wrote in message
ink.net...
The one that is in the Duece and a half is a smaller motor I think. These
were used in 5 ton plus trucks and track vehicles I think. If I'm not
mistaken they have a standard SAE bobtail.

The LDT-465-1C was used in the duce and half from 1967 on to at least the
1970's but I do believe they still are being used but now with White
building the engines instead of Continental (guess Continental is now gone.
It is amazing how many of these engine are still running. I use to work in
a factory that ran generators powered by Hercules engines.). The nicest
engine I have ever seen was in an submarine (the Bowfin which is currently
at Pearl Harbor). Also a Continental diesel, all of the brass was
absolutely stunning.

I appreciate the up date about the bell housing I will look into that... I
don't know about the 5-ton trucks.

mark

harelip, as you stated, those are military engines. Not very good engines, but
designed specificly to be able to use "multi fuels". However, *if* you try to
run them on gasoline you will find they don't run all that long. They really
are diesel engines with spark plugs to make them easier to start in cold
weather by dumping a high level of gas into the diesel fuel. Remember Korea
and the problems the military had with the cold?

harelip? you think the Andrea Gail had a surplus military multi-fuel engine in
it and the writer Sebastian Younger somehow managed to miss that tidbit?

There's the old Continental Model LDS-465-1A. 600hp Multi Fuel. Miltary
surplus for the most part, you can still buy them pretty cheap. They run on
diesel and use spark plugs. There's a good nuber of them out there
propelling mid size commercial fishing boats still.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
so, base kisser, just *which* diesel engines (as used on longliner fishing
boats) have spark plugs did you say?

base kisser, you stated the engine on the Andrea Gail might well have
had
**ELECTRICAL** ---- PLUGS ---- on its drive engine and the only
diesel
engine
you could name that you felt had **ELECTRICAL PLUGS** was
a --------------
Perkinns -------------- 4-108.

base kisser? do you always have this much trouble trying to read
English?

base kisser, the discussion has always been about the engine in the
Andrea
Gail
(check the headline). so why hell are *you* talking about fishing
from
a
bridge over some fricken' creek?????

Again, stupid, please show where I've ever said anything about the
Andrea Gail and a Perkins diesel.



Again, you stupid ****ing idiot, I NEVER mentioned any particular
diesel engine. Damn it, will you LOOK at the damned posts before
making such dumb statements?

no, hoary, you did make such a statement. in fact several such statements.
maybe you can't remember one statement from the next anymore.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 7/20/2004 9:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
My interest in boat engines is limited to their running ...

so, hoary, just in hell did you tell us you are enough of an expert in
longliner diesel engines to KNOW they have spark plugs?


I suggest you puff a little less deeply on your bong, Jaxass. I made no
such statement.




you have an expert knowledge in everything, hoary, because you WANT to?
wanna
tell us about that night you screwed six virgins, including 7 of 9?


Sure. It was a dark and stormy night. I was six years old, and
accidently locked in a room with 12 lovely girls, aged 14 to 18, and I
mangaged to screw seven or nine of them.

Tell you what, Jaxass...write something that makes sense and perhaps
I'll offer a comment.