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Steven Shelikoff July 12th 04 03:09 PM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
On 11 Jul 2004 13:49:55 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Shall we hold our collective breath for your help in filling this gap in our
understanding?


Yes, hold your breath.

Schlackoff


in other words, schlackoff, you have no idea what plugs a commerical fishing
boat crew might clean on the engine the night before sailing, but you are sure
they did clean some kind of plugs to ensure they engine ran well. you just
don't know what kind, that's all?


I'm sure the Andrea Gail did not have a diesel engine like you claimed.
I'm sure the author never said the Andrea Gail had a diesel engine like
you claimed he did. I'm sure you made a mistake when reading the book
and subconsciously added "spark" in front of plugs because you typed
"spark" plugs here several times. And I'm sure you're an idiot.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff July 12th 04 03:14 PM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
On 09 Jul 2004 01:04:36 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail had a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).


Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.


2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions about claims you've made.

Thank you,

Steve

JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:35 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
schlackoff, a month at sea is the same as a month on shore, 720 hours. did you
intend to really say that the diesel engines used in commercial fishing boats
won't go even 800 hours before being in need of a teardown for a major
overhaul??

If not, why did you say that?

there you have it, folks, schlackoff telling us that the diesel engines

used
by
commercial fishermen are so unreliable that those engine have "to be torn
down"
after every trip to sea.

There's your reading comprehension problem shining through again. The
reason those diesel engines are so reliable is that they are usually
serviced after every long trip to sea.


of course, schlackoff, by tearing the down to do a major overhauls after

ever
trip, right?


Depends on how long the trip was and how long the next trip will be.
The fact is that they often (not all the time) do a teardown between
such trips. Accept it, deal with it. Don't stress over it.

sure they do, schlackoff. sure they do. but first they "clean the plugs".


They might.

Steve









JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:36 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
sure they do, schlackoff. sure they do. but first they "clean the plugs".

They might.


schlackoff, only in some strange universe known only to you.



Steve




JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:37 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

schlackoff, we are waiting for you to tell just what kind of "plugs" the
diesel engine on a commercial fishing boat has that might be cleaned by

the
nervous crew the night before departing.

Anything from electrical plugs to hair plugs.


hair plugs? why would a fishing crew worry about hair plugs?

electrical plugs? on a diesel engine?


Depends on the engine. My diesel engine has electrical plugs as I'm
sure many do. The plug connects to a socket that goes to the pedestal
instrument cluster.

The point is that you
made a reading mistake by putting spark in front of plugs when it wasn't
there.


I made no mistake. I only pointed out a mistake made by the author and

editors
of the book.


Sure you did, You assumed that the author stated the Andrea Gail had a
gasoline engine. Just look at the subject you wrote. When in reality,
the author said no such thing.

It's actually quite common for people to do things like that,
i.e, fill in a familiar missing word subconsciously. It's what you did
and you just can't admit you made a mistake.


And that's what you did in this case.

Steve









JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:40 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
stevie, are you or are you not going to tell us just what plugs the anxious
crew Andrea Gail might have cleaned on the boat's engine the night before
sailing?

you claim the engine had crew cleanable plugs. we are waiting for you to tell
us what those cleanable plugs were, and why the crew might clean them the night
before sailing.

Shall we hold our collective breath for your help in filling this gap in

our
understanding?

Yes, hold your breath.

Schlackoff


in other words, schlackoff, you have no idea what plugs a commerical fishing
boat crew might clean on the engine the night before sailing, but you are

sure
they did clean some kind of plugs to ensure they engine ran well. you just
don't know what kind, that's all?


I'm sure the Andrea Gail did not have a diesel engine like you claimed.
I'm sure the author never said the Andrea Gail had a diesel engine like
you claimed he did. I'm sure you made a mistake when reading the book
and subconsciously added "spark" in front of plugs because you typed
"spark" plugs here several times. And I'm sure you're an idiot.

Steve









JAXAshby July 13th 04 01:47 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
schlackoff, you are too stupid for words, but let me walk you through this.

Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.


by a drunken, nervous, anxious crew the night before sailing?

because the capt would not let anyone do something so foolish, and because
cleaning fuel injectors is major work requiring special tools, and because
bending any of the fuel lines going to any injector requires replacing the fuel
line with new.

2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.


how are you going to clean them? Take them out and wipe them on your jeans?
To what purpose?

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.


electrical connentions on a seagoing vessel are not plugs.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions


no, "we" were not. "you" were awaiting in hopes of filling yet another major
gap in your undersanding of the universe.

Calif Bill July 13th 04 06:53 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Did it specifically state *SPARK plugs*? There are many, many kinds of
"plugs", you know.


In a diesel? that can be cleaned?


Goto http://www.andreagail.com/The_Andrea...drea_gail.html
And look at the motor. Gas?



Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 08:49 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
On 13 Jul 2004 00:35:17 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, a month at sea is the same as a month on shore, 720 hours. did you
intend to really say that the diesel engines used in commercial fishing boats
won't go even 800 hours before being in need of a teardown for a major
overhaul??


After 800 hours the engineer would probably check plenty of things
before putting on another 800 hours. It's not very hard to do on those
boats and well worth the time. It's probably his main job while in
port... getting the boat and engine ready for the next trip.

If not, why did you say that?


Because that's what they do.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff July 13th 04 08:49 AM

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 
There you have it. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean a diesel
engine's injectors. Joxie claims it's impossible to clean glow plugs.
Joxie claims it's impossible to clean electrical connections.

Joxie, you are too stupid for words.

Steve


On 13 Jul 2004 00:47:34 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words, but let me walk you through this.

Jox, please tell us all why you claim:

1) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's injectors.


by a drunken, nervous, anxious crew the night before sailing?

because the capt would not let anyone do something so foolish, and because
cleaning fuel injectors is major work requiring special tools, and because
bending any of the fuel lines going to any injector requires replacing the fuel
line with new.

2) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's glow plugs.


how are you going to clean them? Take them out and wipe them on your jeans?
To what purpose?

3) it's absolutely impossible to clean a diesel engine's electrical
connections.


electrical connentions on a seagoing vessel are not plugs.

We're awaiting your answers to these questions


no, "we" were not. "you" were awaiting in hopes of filling yet another major
gap in your undersanding of the universe.




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