The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

On 10 Jul 2004 14:32:04 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

Oh, good one! Is that your sense of irony coming through again?

Steve

schlackoff, diesel engines with spark plugs are called "multi-fuel" engines
and
are rare.

Which proves you can't read. It didn't say "spark" plugs.

schlackie, you were caught with a fish hook in your mouth.

Joxitchbe, you were caught in yet another blunder. Add it to the list.

Steve

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail had
a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

THAT's it? That's what you're basing your assertion that the Andrea
Gail had a gas engine on? No mention of the type of engine? No mention
of fuel? Jax, FYI, diesel engines can have plugs also. So it could
have been a diesel engine and the author not even be wrong in his
statement. If he had actually said it was a gas engine, he surely would
have been wrong.

Since you know so much about gas engines, what model gas engine do you
think it had?

Steve

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

On 10 Jul 2004 14:31:11 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff, NObody "cleans" fuel injectors on a diesel the night before leaving
on an ocean trip, and NObody cleans the glow plugs either. btw, wanna tell us
just how glow plugs are cleaned by the crew?

also, why in hell do fishing boats "often do a teardown" (your words, see
below) on a engine to do a major overhaul (as you as described, see below)
"between such trips"? (your words, see below)

Because they put so many hours on it at a time. Because they depend on
their single engine to get them out and back over thousands of miles at
a time. Because the engines we're talking about are made to be easily
serviced with replacable wear items.


Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs

I made no mistake at all. the author made the mistake, I just noticed it. you
schlackoff, on the other hand, STILL are not sure that maybe the author was
right and the crew cleaned the plugs the night before they left.

The author may have made a mistake, and may not have made a mistake.
You just can't read, that's all. You added "spark" in front of plugs
when it wasn't there. So no matter what the author said, you were wrong
and like always, just can't admit it.

Steve

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

Subject: The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 07/09/2004 22:14 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

sorry but that I confused you, shen. too many big words I now realize.

shen, I don't really believe that boat had a gas engine. really don't.
never
did. I just found it amusing the author didn't know diesel engines don't
have
spark plugs. I gather the you, shen, didn't know either unti Friday
afternoon
sometime.

ROFL The only one confused here, is the Jaxass.
We all know you screwed up in the earlier post, claiming the Andrea Gail's
engine was gasoline (you did ....just read it) and that everything you've
written since has been your usual lame attempt to cover-up another of your
typical screw-ups.
Blather on Jax .... your screw-up list continues to grow.
BTW, I seem to remember an old CAT tractor whose engine started as a gasoline
engine, and when warmed up, converted to diesel....could be wrong.

Shen

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

On 10 Jul 2004 16:48:02 GMT, something compelled
(Shen44), to say:

BTW, I seem to remember an old CAT tractor whose engine started as a gasoline
engine, and when warmed up, converted to diesel....could be wrong.

There are some old tractors that use a gasoline engine as a
starter motor. You'd start the gasoline engine and then couple
its output through a clutch to turn the diesel engine, getting it
to start. I guess that was because they didn't carry enough
electrical power to use an electric motor to turn the diesel, or
maybe they did it that way because it's Just Cool.

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

Subject: The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
From: "Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam"


BTW, I seem to remember an old CAT tractor whose engine started as a
gasoline
engine, and when warmed up, converted to diesel....could be wrong.

There are some old tractors that use a gasoline engine as a
starter motor. You'd start the gasoline engine and then couple
its output through a clutch to turn the diesel engine, getting it
to start. I guess that was because they didn't carry enough
electrical power to use an electric motor to turn the diesel, or
maybe they did it that way because it's Just Cool.


I've seen what you are mentioning above, but for some reason, I remember this
as the main engine was started on and as a gasoline engine, then switched.
It was an old Cat dozer, and as stated previously, I could be wrong.

Shen

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

shen, you don't seem to understand the irony intended from the start (look up
the big words b/4 you respond yet again telling us that the boat really
probably maybe did have a diesel engine)

sorry but that I confused you, shen. too many big words I now realize.

shen, I don't really believe that boat had a gas engine. really don't.
never
did. I just found it amusing the author didn't know diesel engines don't
have
spark plugs. I gather the you, shen, didn't know either unti Friday
afternoon
sometime.

ROFL The only one confused here, is the Jaxass.
We all know you screwed up in the earlier post, claiming the Andrea Gail's
engine was gasoline (you did ....just read it) and that everything you've
written since has been your usual lame attempt to cover-up another of your
typical screw-ups.
Blather on Jax .... your screw-up list continues to grow.
BTW, I seem to remember an old CAT tractor whose engine started as a gasoline
engine, and when warmed up, converted to diesel....could be wrong.

Shen

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

there were also farm tractor engines that started on gasoline and then ran on
kerosene. Honda Racing kinda did something similar a while back, because the
race rules limited the total gallonage of fuel available to a car. Kerosene
has more btu's per gallon, so (as I understand it) gasoline/air fuel were
sprayed in near the plug (because it would ignite well) and keresene/air fuel
was sprayed elsewhere in the cylinder. I understand Honda dropped the idea
eventually, but don't know why.

BTW, I seem to remember an old CAT tractor whose engine started as a
gasoline
engine, and when warmed up, converted to diesel....could be wrong.

There are some old tractors that use a gasoline engine as a
starter motor. You'd start the gasoline engine and then couple
its output through a clutch to turn the diesel engine, getting it
to start. I guess that was because they didn't carry enough
electrical power to use an electric motor to turn the diesel, or
maybe they did it that way because it's Just Cool.

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.


schlackoff, you are too stupid for words.

Oh, good one! Is that your sense of irony coming through again?

Steve

schlackoff, diesel engines with spark plugs are called "multi-fuel"
engines
and
are rare.

Which proves you can't read. It didn't say "spark" plugs.

schlackie, you were caught with a fish hook in your mouth.

Joxitchbe, you were caught in yet another blunder. Add it to the list.

Steve

For sure it did, for the author specificly mentioned the crew of the
ill-fated
vessel was so anxious about the trip that they went to the boat the
night
before leaving to clean the plugs on the engine.

One sentence, just one sentence, but it clearly shows the Andrea Gail
had
a
gasoline engine. At least in the First Edition (for those out there who
know
what a First Edition is, the rest of you can go fry an egg).

THAT's it? That's what you're basing your assertion that the Andrea
Gail had a gas engine on? No mention of the type of engine? No mention
of fuel? Jax, FYI, diesel engines can have plugs also. So it could
have been a diesel engine and the author not even be wrong in his
statement. If he had actually said it was a gas engine, he surely would
have been wrong.

Since you know so much about gas engines, what model gas engine do you
think it had?

Steve

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

there you have it, folks, schlackoff telling us that the diesel engines used by
commercial fishermen are so unreliable that those engine have "to be torn down"
after every trip to sea.

Yeah.

schlackoff, NObody "cleans" fuel injectors on a diesel the night before
leaving
on an ocean trip, and NObody cleans the glow plugs either. btw, wanna tell
us
just how glow plugs are cleaned by the crew?

also, why in hell do fishing boats "often do a teardown" (your words, see
below) on a engine to do a major overhaul (as you as described, see below)
"between such trips"? (your words, see below)

Because they put so many hours on it at a time. Because they depend on
their single engine to get them out and back over thousands of miles at
a time. Because the engines we're talking about are made to be easily
serviced with replacable wear items.


Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs

I made no mistake at all. the author made the mistake, I just noticed it.
you
schlackoff, on the other hand, STILL are not sure that maybe the author was
right and the crew cleaned the plugs the night before they left.

The author may have made a mistake, and may not have made a mistake.
You just can't read, that's all. You added "spark" in front of plugs
when it wasn't there. So no matter what the author said, you were wrong
and like always, just can't admit it.

Steve

The Andrea Gail had a gasoline engine
 

schlackoff, we are waiting for you to tell just what kind of "plugs" the
diesel engine on a commercial fishing boat has that might be cleaned by the
nervous crew the night before departing.

Shall we hold our collective breath for your help in filling this gap in our
understanding?

schlackoff, NObody "cleans" fuel injectors on a diesel the night before
leaving
on an ocean trip, and NObody cleans the glow plugs either. btw, wanna tell
us
just how glow plugs are cleaned by the crew?

also, why in hell do fishing boats "often do a teardown" (your words, see
below) on a engine to do a major overhaul (as you as described, see below)
"between such trips"? (your words, see below)

Because they put so many hours on it at a time. Because they depend on
their single engine to get them out and back over thousands of miles at
a time. Because the engines we're talking about are made to be easily
serviced with replacable wear items.


Your mistake is assuming that he meant "spark" plugs when he said plugs

I made no mistake at all. the author made the mistake, I just noticed it.
you
schlackoff, on the other hand, STILL are not sure that maybe the author was
right and the crew cleaned the plugs the night before they left.

The author may have made a mistake, and may not have made a mistake.
You just can't read, that's all. You added "spark" in front of plugs
when it wasn't there. So no matter what the author said, you were wrong
and like always, just can't admit it.

Steve