According to NTSB statistics, 100% of passengers killed in commercial airline
crashes were not wearing parachutes.

I guess we should be looking into that....

Parachutes don't improve your safety on a commercial flight.

They can be useful, however, when leaping out of a plane.

More people will survive falling off a boat without a PFD than will survive
falling out of an airplane without a parachute.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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According to NTSB statistics, 100% of passengers killed in commercial
airline
crashes were not wearing parachutes.

I guess we should be looking into that....

Parachutes don't improve your safety on a commercial flight.

They can be useful, however, when leaping out of a plane.

More people will survive falling off a boat without a PFD than will
survive
falling out of an airplane without a parachute.

Although your premise may be correct, it is not practical for most every
boaters. You see it every day...he kids will be wearing life jackets but
how often do you see adults wearing one? Never. And why do you never see
passengers required to wear one on commercial vessels? Because it is not
required nor is it practical.

Yep...we could wear lifejackets, parachutes and personal airbags (is there
such a thing?) when we travel, but it really does not make sense nor is it
practical.

The best answer is education. Show your passengers where the life jackets
are and how to use them.

On 07 Jul 2004 22:03:35 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

According to NTSB statistics, 100% of passengers killed in commercial airline
crashes were not wearing parachutes.

I guess we should be looking into that....

Parachutes don't improve your safety on a commercial flight.

They can be useful, however, when leaping out of a plane.

More people will survive falling off a boat without a PFD than will survive
falling out of an airplane without a parachute.

I'd think that 100% of the people who fall out of an airplane without a
parachute will die. I'm sure there are plenty of people who fall off a
boat without a PFD who survive.

Steve

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
I'd think that 100% of the people who fall out of an airplane without a
parachute will die. I'm sure there are plenty of people who fall off a
boat without a PFD who survive.

Steve

Perhaps you should rethink that first statement. I'm sure there are
many people who've fallen out of airplanes and survived. First that
comes to mind, what if the airplane is on the ground, and someone
trips out of the door?

I'd think that 100% of the people who fall out of an airplane without a
parachute will die. I'm sure there are plenty of people who fall off a
boat without a PFD who survive.

Steve

Good thing too. A whole lot of people fall off of or out of boats every year.

I'm trying to remember the last time somebody accidentally "fell out of" an
airplane.

In article ,
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote:

I'd think that 100% of the people who fall out of an airplane without a
parachute will die.

During a bombing raid over Germany on 23rd March, 1944, Flight Sergeant
Nicholas Alkemade, R.A.F., jumped from his Lancaster at 18,000 feet, to
escape the holocaust of the blazing bomber, leaving behind his useless
parachute, that had been torn to shreds by shrapnel. His headlong fall
was broken by a fir tree and he finally landed in an 18 inch snow-drift,
without a single fracture. Naturally, the Luftwaffe authorities were
highly suspicious of his story of falling from such a height without a
parachute, but on investigation they found his shredded and unused
Œchute in the crashed remains of the aircraft.

Alan Magee, a gunner on a B-17 with the 303rd Bomb Group of the U.S. 8th
Air Force, was on a mission to St. Nazaire, France in January of 1943,
when his bomber was set aflame by enemy fire. He was thrown from the
plane before he had a chance to put on his parachute. He fell 20,000
feet and crashed through the skylight of the St. Nazaire train station.
His arm was badly injured, but he recovered from that and other
injuries.

Mo
http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffresearch.html

During a bombing raid over Germany on 23rd March, 1944, Flight Sergeant
Nicholas Alkemade, R.A.F., jumped from his Lancaster at 18,000 feet, to

Establishing once and for all that PFD's, like parachutes, are just frivolous.
:-)

Isn't it true that no matter how far you fall you reach a maximum terminal
velocity of about 125-150 mph? No doubt a "lucky" landing would be potentially
survivable.

In article ,
(Gould 0738) wrote:

During a bombing raid over Germany on 23rd March, 1944, Flight Sergeant
Nicholas Alkemade, R.A.F., jumped from his Lancaster at 18,000 feet, to

Establishing once and for all that PFD's, like parachutes, are just frivolous.
:-)

Isn't it true that no matter how far you fall you reach a maximum terminal
velocity of about 125-150 mph? No doubt a "lucky" landing would be potentially
survivable.

It's interesting to note that above a certain altitude one passes out
from lack of O2. However, at that height, one usually regains
consiousness for the final 8,000 feet or so. Mercy? We don need no
steenking mercy!

A Personal Floatation Device would be good if that meant it worked in
air too!

I say that every one should have to wear neoprene underwear aboard
watercraft :^)

This thread has wandered all over the place but I still haven't seen the
justification for ALL boaters to wear PFDs all the time because a few hundred
people died (out of the tens of millions on the water). Don't you suppose there
were other illegal acts involved with those deaths and not wearing a PFD would
just be another law they broke.
At a certain point the Darwin factor will always win.

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:47:14 -0500, Jeepers
wrote:

In article ,
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote:

I'd think that 100% of the people who fall out of an airplane without a
parachute will die.

During a bombing raid over Germany on 23rd March, 1944, Flight Sergeant
Nicholas Alkemade, R.A.F., jumped from his Lancaster at 18,000 feet, to
escape the holocaust of the blazing bomber, leaving behind his useless
parachute, that had been torn to shreds by shrapnel. His headlong fall
was broken by a fir tree and he finally landed in an 18 inch snow-drift,
without a single fracture. Naturally, the Luftwaffe authorities were
highly suspicious of his story of falling from such a height without a
parachute, but on investigation they found his shredded and unused
Œchute in the crashed remains of the aircraft.

ok, make that 99.9%

Steve