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WARNING:

Don't buy anything from American Marine and Motorsports in Shawano ,
Wisconsin.

I bought a boat that they promised to deliver in 5 days. When in fact they
knew they could not deliver it on time because the motor was backordered for
1 to 2 months. The day it was to be delivered, I called and asked what
time, they told me they would find out and call me back. They never called
back. I called a number of times, and was put on hold everytime and no one
ever answered. I finally talked to a manager and they told me they had no
idea when the motor would be available and it could be months. They cashed
my check immediately after I called about the delivery, so I could not put a
stop payment on the check. I'm still waiting for either my money back, or
to talk to someone about a different motor. But, no one will talk to me.

So, buyer beware.

One thing I learned is to get serial numbers from all the items involved in
a purchase of this type, that way you can verify the items are in stock.

CB

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Sounds like a good time to consult a lawyer. At least you'll know your
options.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

Sounds like a good time to consult a lawyer. At least you'll know your
options.



Tomorrow is Saturday. Should be a busy day for a boat dealer. Stop a cop on
the street and tell him you're going to the dealership to spend the day
there YELLING REALLY LOUD ABOUT WHAT ASSHOLES THEY ARE. Tell him he might
want to follow you there to make sure nobody physically injures you. If the
dealer takes you to his bank for a cashier's check, maybe you will stop
YELLING REALLY LOUD IN FRONT OF ALL HIS CUSTOMERS.

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Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Sounds like a good time to consult a lawyer. At least you'll know your
options.




Tomorrow is Saturday. Should be a busy day for a boat dealer. Stop a cop on
the street and tell him you're going to the dealership to spend the day
there YELLING REALLY LOUD ABOUT WHAT ASSHOLES THEY ARE. Tell him he might
want to follow you there to make sure nobody physically injures you. If the
dealer takes you to his bank for a cashier's check, maybe you will stop
YELLING REALLY LOUD IN FRONT OF ALL HIS CUSTOMERS.

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It had to be FUN also!

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Sounds like a good time to consult a lawyer. At least you'll know your
options.




Tomorrow is Saturday. Should be a busy day for a boat dealer. Stop a cop
on
the street and tell him you're going to the dealership to spend the day
there YELLING REALLY LOUD ABOUT WHAT ASSHOLES THEY ARE. Tell him he
might
want to follow you there to make sure nobody physically injures you. If
the
dealer takes you to his bank for a cashier's check, maybe you will stop
YELLING REALLY LOUD IN FRONT OF ALL HIS CUSTOMERS.

Don't buy anything from American Marine and Motorsports in Shawano , WI
 

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Jim wrote:

Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.

or act like an immature idiot.

The OP is out thousands of dollars while the dealer tries to fix his broken
credit with the engine supplier. What would YOU do in the customer's
situation, you putz?

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WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Jim wrote:

Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.

or act like an immature idiot.

The OP is out thousands of dollars while the dealer tries to fix his broken
credit with the engine supplier. What would YOU do in the customer's
situation, you putz?


What would a putz do?

Well, he would overturn a table in a car dealership because he couldn't
control his childish emotions.

People never cease to cause me to shake my head.


Too much head-shaking, Wally, and you end up brain-damaged, like Tuuk
and Dubya.

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WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
. ..

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Jim wrote:


Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.

or act like an immature idiot.

The OP is out thousands of dollars while the dealer tries to fix his broken
credit with the engine supplier. What would YOU do in the customer's
situation, you putz?



What would a putz do?

Well, he would overturn a table in a car dealership because he couldn't
control his childish emotions.

People never cease to cause me to shake my head.

Shake your head all you want -- but I got my keys back
within the 10 seconds I demanded. I hope I squelched a
couple of sales from those watching. I was in control at
all times, and in fact warned the salesman that I was about
to make a scene. What happened was his choice. Had he
accepted that we were not about to come to terms and
returned the keys like a gentleman, I would have thanked him
and walked away quietly.

I suppose you would have sat there and cried or something?

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I can see you have never had this happen to you.

I was at a chrysler dealership years ago where the Sales Manager kept my
keys (which i dumbly gave up for the old "let us drive test your potential
tradein to determine its value") on his credenza behind his desk.

When the Sales Associate couldn't produce the keys when I told him I wasn't
purchasing any car from them, I demanded to know where the keys were.
Eventually he told me the Sales Manager had them.

I immediately went to the Sales Managers office to get my keys when he
expressed "tell us what it will take to get you to drive out of here tonight
with a new car". I told him "give my my keys now or I am coming over your
desk". He replied with "sir, I can see you are not serious about purchasing
a new car tonight, what can we do to change your mind". I made a move
towards his desk, and he immediately turned around and gave me my keys back.

BELIEVE ME.....THIS CAN REALLY HAPPEN. In the mean time, they had some
poor woman in the next office in tears using the same tactic. Sad...really
sad.

Being childish has nothing to do with these sales a**holes. They only
understand aggression. If you are passive, they will eat you alive.

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Jim wrote:

Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.

or act like an immature idiot.

The OP is out thousands of dollars while the dealer tries to fix his
broken
credit with the engine supplier. What would YOU do in the customer's
situation, you putz?


What would a putz do?

Well, he would overturn a table in a car dealership because he couldn't
control his childish emotions.

People never cease to cause me to shake my head.

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You sell cars for a living Wally?

WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
. ..

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Jim wrote:


Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.

or act like an immature idiot.

The OP is out thousands of dollars while the dealer tries to fix his broken
credit with the engine supplier. What would YOU do in the customer's
situation, you putz?



What would a putz do?

Well, he would overturn a table in a car dealership because he couldn't
control his childish emotions.

People never cease to cause me to shake my head.

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"Jim" wrote in message
...
You sell cars for a living Wally?


Wally was that lady, sobbing like a school girl, in the next cubical.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...
You sell cars for a living Wally?


Wally was that lady, sobbing like a school girl, in the next cubical.



So Canuck Don comes stumbling into the NG to stick his head up Harry's ass
once again.

Have you ever had an original thought Don..or even a thought?

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"jim--" wrote in message
...

So Canuck Don comes stumbling into the NG to stick his head up Harry's ass
once again.

Have you ever had an original thought Don..or even a thought?


Sure...but why should I waste it on you?
How are things in Cleveland?

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:20:13 GMT, WaIIy wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:11:25 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Too much head-shaking, Wally, and you end up brain-damaged, like Tuuk
and Dubya.

Well, we might not agree on most political issues, but I have the
feeling you are quite civilized in real life.

Wally, what makes you think he's any different? Having met him, I see no reason
for you to think that way.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 17:26:23 GMT, "Phil" wrote:


I can see you have never had this happen to you.

I was at a chrysler dealership years ago where the Sales Manager kept my
keys (which i dumbly gave up for the old "let us drive test your potential
tradein to determine its value") on his credenza behind his desk.

When the Sales Associate couldn't produce the keys when I told him I wasn't
purchasing any car from them, I demanded to know where the keys were.
Eventually he told me the Sales Manager had them.

I immediately went to the Sales Managers office to get my keys when he
expressed "tell us what it will take to get you to drive out of here tonight
with a new car". I told him "give my my keys now or I am coming over your
desk". He replied with "sir, I can see you are not serious about purchasing
a new car tonight, what can we do to change your mind". I made a move
towards his desk, and he immediately turned around and gave me my keys back.

BELIEVE ME.....THIS CAN REALLY HAPPEN. In the mean time, they had some
poor woman in the next office in tears using the same tactic. Sad...really
sad.

Being childish has nothing to do with these sales a**holes. They only
understand aggression. If you are passive, they will eat you alive.



You and the guy who turned the table over (if he really did) act like
out of control monkeys.

Well Wally, bast on your VAST business experience, what do
you suggest. I see the following options

1) buy the car as the salesman demands

2) call the cops, and wait 3-4 hours until they get around
to showing, at which point the salesman will explain that it
was all a misunderstanding, and YOU were mistaken in
bothering the cops.

3) take a cab home and forfeit your car to storage fees

4) drive their demo home and get arrested for theft.

What is your suggestion given the situation as described --
where a "salesman, sales manager" refuses to return the keys
to your car? You know the "professional approach" Remember
that you're dealing with scum who are out to take your money
and have already demonstrated their (lack of) class.

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John H wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:20:13 GMT, WaIIy wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:11:25 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Too much head-shaking, Wally, and you end up brain-damaged, like Tuuk
and Dubya.

Well, we might not agree on most political issues, but I have the
feeling you are quite civilized in real life.

Wally, what makes you think he's any different? Having met him, I see no reason
for you to think that way.

John H
\

Was that the conclusion you reached after I invited you and your wife
aboard my boat for a look-see, or invited you out fishing a couple of
times while your boat was in the shop?

You really are an ungracious snot, Herring.

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WaIIy wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:11:25 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Too much head-shaking, Wally, and you end up brain-damaged, like Tuuk
and Dubya.

Well, we might not agree on most political issues, but I have the
feeling you are quite civilized in real life.

Quite...anytime you are in the area, let me know and if its "in season,"
I'll be glad to take you and your wife or SO out for a cruise on The Bay.

Today was beautiful on the water, though it was very choppy for most of
the morning. In fact, a lot of guys were headed in at 9:30 when we
headed out. But it flattened out some right after noon. North winds.

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:28:25 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:20:13 GMT, WaIIy wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:11:25 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Too much head-shaking, Wally, and you end up brain-damaged, like Tuuk
and Dubya.

Well, we might not agree on most political issues, but I have the
feeling you are quite civilized in real life.

Wally, what makes you think he's any different? Having met him, I see no reason
for you to think that way.

John H
\

Was that the conclusion you reached after I invited you and your wife
aboard my boat for a look-see, or invited you out fishing a couple of
times while your boat was in the shop?

You really are an ungracious snot, Herring.

What? I implied you were no different in person than you were here. What the
hell is wrong with that? *Are* you different in person? Are you 'better' or
'worse'?

If we aren't seeing the real Harry here, what are we seeing? Is everything you
say here a myth? What *do* you believe?

Why would someone get ****ed when reading that they are like who they are like?

My wife doesn't fish. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend a whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:55:11 GMT, Jim wrote:



WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:26:53 GMT, Jim wrote:


Ya know this (or a minor variation) works. Several years
ago I was in a local car dealer (Patrick) haggling over a
car. It became obvious that we were not about to come to
agreement, so I politely told the salesman such, and asked
for my car keys back (the trade in evaluation), He changed
the subject, and we went back and forth for a minute or 2.
I became insistent, finally asking if he wanted a scene, and
yet again he avoided my question. I jumped up, overturned
the table, and shouted at the top of my voice that he ahd
the dealer were G.D. Thieves and that unless I had my keys
in 10 seconds, I was calling the police and reporting it
stolen/ I followed the salesman to the managers office
swearing all the way, and got my keys without incident.
This was also on a Saturday with a full showroom.

Sometimes it helps to make a little noise.

or act like an immature idiot.

The OP is out thousands of dollars while the dealer tries to fix his
broken
credit with the engine supplier. What would YOU do in the customer's
situation, you putz?



What would a putz do?

Well, he would overturn a table in a car dealership because he
couldn't
control his childish emotions.

People never cease to cause me to shake my head.

Shake your head all you want -- but I got my keys back
within the 10 seconds I demanded. I hope I squelched a
couple of sales from those watching. I was in control at
all times, and in fact warned the salesman that I was about
to make a scene. What happened was his choice. Had he
accepted that we were not about to come to terms and
returned the keys like a gentleman, I would have thanked him
and walked away quietly.

I suppose you would have sat there and cried or something?

You have no concept of how to act in a business situation.

Apparently, neither do the boat and car salesmen described in this
discussion. What would YOU do if you were in the same predicament as the guy
who started this thread?

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 17:26:23 GMT, "Phil" wrote:

I can see you have never had this happen to you.

I was at a chrysler dealership years ago where the Sales Manager kept my
keys (which i dumbly gave up for the old "let us drive test your
potential
tradein to determine its value") on his credenza behind his desk.

When the Sales Associate couldn't produce the keys when I told him I
wasn't
purchasing any car from them, I demanded to know where the keys were.
Eventually he told me the Sales Manager had them.

I immediately went to the Sales Managers office to get my keys when he
expressed "tell us what it will take to get you to drive out of here
tonight
with a new car". I told him "give my my keys now or I am coming over
your
desk". He replied with "sir, I can see you are not serious about
purchasing
a new car tonight, what can we do to change your mind". I made a move
towards his desk, and he immediately turned around and gave me my keys
back.

BELIEVE ME.....THIS CAN REALLY HAPPEN. In the mean time, they had some
poor woman in the next office in tears using the same tactic.
Sad...really
sad.

Being childish has nothing to do with these sales a**holes. They only
understand aggression. If you are passive, they will eat you alive.


You and the guy who turned the table over (if he really did) act like
out of control monkeys.

I notice you've left out any mention of what YOU would have done in that car
dealership. Care to describe it?

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:11:23 GMT, Jim wrote:

You sell cars for a living Wally?


No, but I've dealt with many business situations and don't let my
emotional level drop to that of a two-year old.


Not even in a situation where a salesperson has been trained to treat you
like a child? :-) What do YOU do? Get down on your knees and offer to yank
his crank?

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"John H" wrote in message
...
.. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.

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Don White wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...
. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.



I think he was put off by the size of the bulge of my Johnson, actually.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...
. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.



I think he was put off by the size of the bulge of my Johnson, actually.

You dirty, dirty man! :-)

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...
. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.



I think he was put off by the size of the bulge of my Johnson, actually.

You dirty, dirty man! :-)



It's a lot worse than you think! I really, truly enjoy heterosexual sex.
A lot. That's why I was kicked out of the GOP!

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...
. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend
a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.



I think he was put off by the size of the bulge of my Johnson,
actually.

You dirty, dirty man! :-)



It's a lot worse than you think! I really, truly enjoy heterosexual sex.
A lot. That's why I was kicked out of the GOP!

I see. You have some sort of prejudice against farm animals.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...
. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend
a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.



I think he was put off by the size of the bulge of my Johnson,
actually.

You dirty, dirty man! :-)



It's a lot worse than you think! I really, truly enjoy heterosexual sex.
A lot. That's why I was kicked out of the GOP!

I see. You have some sort of prejudice against farm animals.



He said, sheepishly.

Gosh, a swiftie...been a long time.

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:15:05 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
. I've never needed a look-see of a Parker, I've seen plenty
at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, I don't think I could spend a
whole day
confined to a boat with someone who thinks and acts the way you do.

Now, be a good boy and tell me what upset you.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


In other words...your Parker wasn't big or fancy enough for him.


This one wouldn't be either, if Harry was on board!

http://www.qe2.org.uk/

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"John H" wrote in message

This one wouldn't be either, if Harry was on board!

http://www.qe2.org.uk/

I plan on sailing out to greet the Queen Mary 2 when it visits my homeport
in September.

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:24:39 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message

This one wouldn't be either, if Harry was on board!

http://www.qe2.org.uk/

I plan on sailing out to greet the Queen Mary 2 when it visits my homeport
in September.


Where's that?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

This one wouldn't be either, if Harry was on board!

http://www.qe2.org.uk/

I plan on sailing out to greet the Queen Mary 2 when it visits my homeport
in September.



Wow. I'm impressed. And of course once again Herring demonstrates
himself to be an intolerant asshole.

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Where's that?


Halifax, Nova Scotia...hometown of Samual Cunard...of Cunard Steamship
lines.

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:01:22 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:




Where's that?


Halifax, Nova Scotia...hometown of Samual Cunard...of Cunard Steamship
lines.


Guess I won't be cruising my 21 footer up there, darn it. Maybe some day she'll
go to Baltimore.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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WaIIy wrote in
:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:11:23 GMT, Jim wrote:

You sell cars for a living Wally?


No, but I've dealt with many business situations and don't let my
emotional level drop to that of a two-year old.


That's why you're such a putz. This is not a business situation, this is a
criminal situation. Your car has been stolen. The law, ethics and common
sense allow you to use reasonable force to get your property back. If I was
on jury, a wouldn't convict in this situation, even if a punch or two were
thrown (assuming the other tatics failed). You don't negotiate with
terrorists. I suppose you think we should work it out with Al Qaeda.

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 06:35:32 GMT, akheel
wrote:

WaIIy wrote in
:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:11:23 GMT, Jim wrote:

You sell cars for a living Wally?


No, but I've dealt with many business situations and don't let my
emotional level drop to that of a two-year old.


That's why you're such a putz. This is not a business situation, this is
a
criminal situation. Your car has been stolen. The law, ethics and
common
sense allow you to use reasonable force to get your property back. If I
was
on jury, a wouldn't convict in this situation, even if a punch or two
were
thrown (assuming the other tatics failed). You don't negotiate with
terrorists. I suppose you think we should work it out with Al Qaeda.

This is more evidence of your lack of emotional maturity, not to mention
arrested logic development.

Wally - Vietnam 1969-1970

You still have not told us what YOU would've done if a car salesmen refused
several requests to return your keys, big shot.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:05:27 GMT, WaIIy wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 06:35:32 GMT, akheel
wrote:

WaIIy wrote in
m:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:11:23 GMT, Jim wrote:

You sell cars for a living Wally?


No, but I've dealt with many business situations and don't let my
emotional level drop to that of a two-year old.


That's why you're such a putz. This is not a business situation, this is a
criminal situation. Your car has been stolen. The law, ethics and common
sense allow you to use reasonable force to get your property back. If I was
on jury, a wouldn't convict in this situation, even if a punch or two were
thrown (assuming the other tatics failed). You don't negotiate with
terrorists. I suppose you think we should work it out with Al Qaeda.

This is more evidence of your lack of emotional maturity, not to mention
arrested logic development.

Wally - Vietnam 1969-1970

Where, Wally? I was in Cu Chi for the year 1969.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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Wally - Vietnam 1969-1970

wally was an airman in Cam Rhan Bay

Where, Wally? I was in Cu Chi for the year 1969.

a suburb of Saigon?


John H

Eye Corps, '67

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:11:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

You still have not told us what YOU would've done if a car salesmen
refused
several requests to return your keys, big shot.

You're a big boy Doug, you figure it out.

If you are having trouble with your shoelaces, I suggest Velcro laces
for you.

Why is that you ladies never answer direct questions?

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:11:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

You still have not told us what YOU would've done if a car salesmen
refused
several requests to return your keys, big shot.

You're a big boy Doug, you figure it out.

If you are having trouble with your shoelaces, I suggest Velcro laces
for you.

Why is that you ladies never answer direct questions?



Surely you've noticed that most of the righties here post with "handles"
and faked email addresses, and hardly ever post any sort of real
information about themselves, their lives, their families, their jobs,
their goal, thoughts, aspirations, et cetera. They'll tell you they are
"afraid" to do so, but I think they're embarrassed. They've got little
or nothing going in their lives.

Instead, they prefer to google their way through life, hoping to find
bits and pieces in the posts of others they can pounce upon, in the hope
that they'll appear to have lives and thoughts worth considering.

Check it out. How much have most of the righties who post here really
told you about themselves?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:11:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

You still have not told us what YOU would've done if a car salesmen
refused
several requests to return your keys, big shot.

You're a big boy Doug, you figure it out.

If you are having trouble with your shoelaces, I suggest Velcro laces
for you.

Why is that you ladies never answer direct questions?



Surely you've noticed that most of the righties here post with "handles"
and faked email addresses, and hardly ever post any sort of real
information about themselves, their lives, their families, their jobs,
their goal, thoughts, aspirations, et cetera. They'll tell you they are
"afraid" to do so, but I think they're embarrassed. They've got little
or nothing going in their lives.

Instead, they prefer to google their way through life, hoping to find
bits and pieces in the posts of others they can pounce upon, in the hope
that they'll appear to have lives and thoughts worth considering.

Check it out. How much have most of the righties who post here really
told you about themselves?



I have posted pictures of my boats and have given detailed information about
my boating experience and family. All of it was true.

You, on the other hand, have posted nothing but lies about your life,
including lies about the boats you own and your wife's education (among
other things).

So it seems like you are once again talking out of your ass.