On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:41:02 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Doug, I didn't make up the definition. Go he

I did not say that you did.

If they are not former liberals, then they are not neoconservatives, by
definition.

If they describe themselves as neoconservatives, or prominent self-named
neoconservatives say that they are, then are they lying or are they just
plain stupid?

Here's an interesting little tidbit
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=2806

Also note that the pundits at 'New Century' describe themselves as
neoconservatives, and they have the biggest influence on Bush & Cheney
(outside of Halliburton or Saudi Arabia).

DSK

Perhaps they were liberals as high school or college students?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:
Perhaps they were liberals as high school or college students?

Perhaps. Or maybe even younger. But with their consistently bad memory
and addiction to contradiction, I wouldn't take *their* word for it.

It seems most likely to me that Dick Cheney was a money grubbing fascist
right from the cradle. So how is he a "neoconservative" by this definition?

DSK

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:14:31 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Perhaps they were liberals as high school or college students?

Perhaps. Or maybe even younger. But with their consistently bad memory
and addiction to contradiction, I wouldn't take *their* word for it.

It seems most likely to me that Dick Cheney was a money grubbing fascist
right from the cradle. So how is he a "neoconservative" by this definition?

DSK

If he was not formerly liberal, then he is not, by definition, neoconservative.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:14:31 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Perhaps they were liberals as high school or college students?

Perhaps. Or maybe even younger. But with their consistently bad memory
and addiction to contradiction, I wouldn't take *their* word for it.

It seems most likely to me that Dick Cheney was a money grubbing fascist
right from the cradle. So how is he a "neoconservative" by this definition?

DSK

If he was not formerly liberal, then he is not, by definition, neoconservative.

John H


Definition of someone with rigid personality...see Herring, John.