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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:40:48 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:
John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Are we a little paranoid, Harry? You seemed to have no problem with the common knowledge of where your boat was last year. If I uncovered a big secret, unintentionally, then I apologize. I honestly believe there is no one here, at least amongst those whom you call names, who gives a rat's ass about where 'either' of your boats are parked. I'll ask my buddy, the 'Linda J' owner, to keep an eye on it. He goes out of Breezy about three times a week. If it gets vandalized, I'll tell you. If you are honestly worried about it, then you've got it in a good place. The folks doing the bottom painting and cleaning are right close. Lastly, it seems that the 'lesser brain output types' to whom you refer are very supportive of you. Why would they want to vandalize your boat? Maybe, if you feel people hate you so much, you could try being a little nicer - you know, not call so many people so many horrid names. Just an idea. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Harry is desperately seeking attention, even if some calls him a cocksucker,
he still likes it because he is getting the attention he doesn't get in the real world. What kind of person would fabricate a fictious degree for the woman he married? Medically speaking, it would have to be one sick puppy. ; ) "John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:40:48 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Are we a little paranoid, Harry? You seemed to have no problem with the common knowledge of where your boat was last year. If I uncovered a big secret, unintentionally, then I apologize. I honestly believe there is no one here, at least amongst those whom you call names, who gives a rat's ass about where 'either' of your boats are parked. I'll ask my buddy, the 'Linda J' owner, to keep an eye on it. He goes out of Breezy about three times a week. If it gets vandalized, I'll tell you. If you are honestly worried about it, then you've got it in a good place. The folks doing the bottom painting and cleaning are right close. Lastly, it seems that the 'lesser brain output types' to whom you refer are very supportive of you. Why would they want to vandalize your boat? Maybe, if you feel people hate you so much, you could try being a little nicer - you know, not call so many people so many horrid names. Just an idea. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! And that makes you think I give a crap? You're just something to twiddle with, in between my various writing and marketing assignments. Sort of like a pimple you gently rub to see how big it will get before the pus blows out of it. Why would I possibly care about you, Dennis? You're an asshole who lives in the environs of Cleveland...which hasn't been the same since the death of Deorge Szell. I rest my case. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! And that makes you think I give a crap? You're just something to twiddle with, in between my various writing and marketing assignments. Sort of like a pimple you gently rub to see how big it will get before the pus blows out of it. Why would I possibly care about you, Dennis? You're an asshole who lives in the environs of Cleveland...which hasn't been the same since the death of Deorge Szell. I rest my case. Fortunately, you're not a defense lawyer. If you were, all your clients would be in the slam. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! And that makes you think I give a crap? You're just something to twiddle with, in between my various writing and marketing assignments. Sort of like a pimple you gently rub to see how big it will get before the pus blows out of it. Why would I possibly care about you, Dennis? You're an asshole who lives in the environs of Cleveland...which hasn't been the same since the death of Deorge Szell. I rest my case. Fortunately, you're not a defense lawyer. If you were, all your clients would be in the slam. tug, tug...yank, yank....dance for me Krause, I am your puppet master. LOL! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:17:15 GMT, "John Smith" wrote:
Harry is desperately seeking attention, even if some calls him a cocksucker, he still likes it because he is getting the attention he doesn't get in the real world. What kind of person would fabricate a fictious degree for the woman he married? Medically speaking, it would have to be one sick puppy. ; ) "John H" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:40:48 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Are we a little paranoid, Harry? You seemed to have no problem with the common knowledge of where your boat was last year. If I uncovered a big secret, unintentionally, then I apologize. I honestly believe there is no one here, at least amongst those whom you call names, who gives a rat's ass about where 'either' of your boats are parked. I'll ask my buddy, the 'Linda J' owner, to keep an eye on it. He goes out of Breezy about three times a week. If it gets vandalized, I'll tell you. If you are honestly worried about it, then you've got it in a good place. The folks doing the bottom painting and cleaning are right close. Lastly, it seems that the 'lesser brain output types' to whom you refer are very supportive of you. Why would they want to vandalize your boat? Maybe, if you feel people hate you so much, you could try being a little nicer - you know, not call so many people so many horrid names. Just an idea. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Notice his lack of response. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! And that makes you think I give a crap? You're just something to twiddle with, in between my various writing and marketing assignments. Sort of like a pimple you gently rub to see how big it will get before the pus blows out of it. Why would I possibly care about you, Dennis? You're an asshole who lives in the environs of Cleveland...which hasn't been the same since the death of Deorge Szell. I rest my case. Fortunately, you're not a defense lawyer. If you were, all your clients would be in the slam. tug, tug...yank, yank....dance for me Krause, I am your puppet master. LOL! You keep repeating that, crap-for-brains, but only you and your circle jerk of righties believe it, and only because most of you are dumb as doorknobs. How's your wife, Dennis? tug, tug...yank, yank....dance faster for me Krause, |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! And that makes you think I give a crap? You're just something to twiddle with, in between my various writing and marketing assignments. Sort of like a pimple you gently rub to see how big it will get before the pus blows out of it. Why would I possibly care about you, Dennis? You're an asshole who lives in the environs of Cleveland...which hasn't been the same since the death of Deorge Szell. I rest my case. Fortunately, you're not a defense lawyer. If you were, all your clients would be in the slam. tug, tug...yank, yank....dance for me Krause, I am your puppet master. LOL! You keep repeating that, crap-for-brains, but only you and your circle jerk of righties believe it, and only because most of you are dumb as doorknobs. How's your wife, Dennis? tug, tug...yank, yank....dance faster for me Krause, Go dance with your wife, Dennis. I'm heterosexual. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. You could have fooled me. You reply to most each and every post I make. LOL! And that makes you think I give a crap? You're just something to twiddle with, in between my various writing and marketing assignments. Sort of like a pimple you gently rub to see how big it will get before the pus blows out of it. Why would I possibly care about you, Dennis? You're an asshole who lives in the environs of Cleveland...which hasn't been the same since the death of Deorge Szell. I rest my case. Fortunately, you're not a defense lawyer. If you were, all your clients would be in the slam. tug, tug...yank, yank....dance for me Krause, I am your puppet master. LOL! You keep repeating that, crap-for-brains, but only you and your circle jerk of righties believe it, and only because most of you are dumb as doorknobs. How's your wife, Dennis? tug, tug...yank, yank....dance faster for me Krause, Go dance with your wife, Dennis. I'm heterosexual. I'm bored with you Krause. Winning all 3 sets against you in this latest match was enough. You can stop dancing now. LOL! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Harry,
One day you will figure out that no one is interested in your opinion or advice. As far as I am concerned you are a low-brain output buttwipe. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Basskisser, where are you when you are needed? Talk about wild assumptions....Krause is making some doozies. Krause, you are one hell of a paranoid screwed up human. I truly hope you get help....and soon. How's your wife, Dennis? I rest my case. Dennis, one of these days you may figure out that I simply am not interested in your opinions of me or your advice to me. As far as I am concerned, you are a low-brain output, right-wing buttwiper. Save your opinions and advice for those who care what you think. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
It is so much fun to watch you, NYOB and jim-- make him jump around like a
brainless marionette. One would think he would catch on, but no, he just keeps on jumping. "John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:17:15 GMT, "John Smith" wrote: Harry is desperately seeking attention, even if some calls him a cocksucker, he still likes it because he is getting the attention he doesn't get in the real world. What kind of person would fabricate a fictious degree for the woman he married? Medically speaking, it would have to be one sick puppy. ; ) "John H" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:40:48 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: a J. Just inside the gate, on the right, on a trailer, was a Parker 2520XL named the "Yo Ho." Don't know if it's yours or not, but it looks much like it. I know where my boats are. Parked where it is, it's going to collect a lot of dust from the limestone and clay as people drive around there. I'd be tempted to put it further away from the main drag. What tempts you doesn't interest me. Tell me, John, do you post this kind of information in the hopes that one of the lesser brain output types here will engage in a bit of vandalism? Perhaps I should publish your home address, telephone number, license plate numbers (on your motorbike, too), and your SSN. Would you like that? The thing is, I wouldn't do that to you. But you would do it to me. And that's one of the big differences between us. I keep my disputes here here. You, on the other hand, are out to cause damage. You're a lowlife, John Herring. Are we a little paranoid, Harry? You seemed to have no problem with the common knowledge of where your boat was last year. If I uncovered a big secret, unintentionally, then I apologize. I honestly believe there is no one here, at least amongst those whom you call names, who gives a rat's ass about where 'either' of your boats are parked. I'll ask my buddy, the 'Linda J' owner, to keep an eye on it. He goes out of Breezy about three times a week. If it gets vandalized, I'll tell you. If you are honestly worried about it, then you've got it in a good place. The folks doing the bottom painting and cleaning are right close. Lastly, it seems that the 'lesser brain output types' to whom you refer are very supportive of you. Why would they want to vandalize your boat? Maybe, if you feel people hate you so much, you could try being a little nicer - you know, not call so many people so many horrid names. Just an idea. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Notice his lack of response. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Please Chuckie, whats your definition of a neocon?
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... FASCINATING DEMONSTRATION of conservbative logic. 1. Make an assumption 2. Declare you own assumption "true" 2. (a) Make additional assumptions that rely on the truth of the previous assumption. 3. Decide your newly discovered truth is holy writ and become self righteous in its promulgation. Thanks for sharing! Dave Hall wrote: So, judging from your definition, a "new" conservative is someone who used to be something else but is now conservative. Since the ideological opposite of conservative is liberal, then following that logic, the conclusion can be drawn that a "new" conservative is most likely an "old" liberal. A former liberal who now, after having to move out of their parent's house, getting a job of their own, starting a family, and realizing how the world really works, has now matured and come to the realization that liberal idealism is a joke, which tries to force equality where it can't exist naturally. Consequently, their viewpoint have changed to embrace what traditional conservative values are. So a "neo conservative" is a liberal convert. Seems to be a lot of those lately. Liberalism is having a tough time holding on to people over the age of 30. Unless, of course, they haven't yet achieved anything, and still look to the government for "help"...... Dave |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Please Chuckie, whats your definition of a neocon?
(Since you asked) Rather than a person who is newly conservative, (which a neocon may or may not be), a neocon is a person who subscribes to the "new" conservatism. The new conseratism is a black vs. white philosophy. All things are either very good, or very wicked. The new conservatism, like all philosophies, defines its own values as the "very good" values and all others as the "very wicked". All values are extreme in neoconservatism. The Commander in Chief (they seldom refer to him anymore as the president) is God's Chosen Leader for the American People, and those who oppose or even question Him are aiding and abetting our rapidly increasing number of enemies. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, and others epitomize the voices of neoconservatism. It is a narrow minded and hateful, self congratulatory and autovindicated system of belief. However, before all four conservatives who will even bother to read this pick up the nearest flame-thrower and come back with the moral-equivalency excuses about liberals do this, this, and this....... Not all conservatives are neocons. There are a handful of traditional conservatives left in the world. The traditional conservatives are shocked at the current size of the federal government and the dismal state of government fiscal affairs. The traditional conservatives respect dissent, (recognizing that at times it is their own voices that will be those of dissent, rather than majority) and are not trapped by binary thinking. I have a very high regard for traditonal, thoughtful, contemplative, rational conservatives. The neo con says, "You're either with me, or against me!" The traditional conservative says, "We either agree, or we need to work out a solution that will be at least somewhat acceptable to all sides. It could be that neither of us is *absolutely* right, and that there is more truth in the middle than on either extreme." So, no. A neocon isn't somebody who "used to be a liberal but saw the light". (That's a fairly binary concept, that all people are either liberal or conservative, anyway). A neocon is a binary thinker who used to be a liberal, moderate, or traditional conservative but who has been blinded by the propaganda and bulldung. Not exactly the same thing. :-) (You asked) |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:41:27 -0400, John H
wrote: On 22 Jun 2004 14:39:14 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: FASCINATING DEMONSTRATION of conservbative logic. 1. Make an assumption 2. Declare you own assumption "true" 2. (a) Make additional assumptions that rely on the truth of the previous assumption. 3. Decide your newly discovered truth is holy writ and become self righteous in its promulgation. Thanks for sharing! Dave Hall wrote: So, judging from your definition, a "new" conservative is someone who used to be something else but is now conservative. Since the ideological opposite of conservative is liberal, then following that logic, the conclusion can be drawn that a "new" conservative is most likely an "old" liberal. A former liberal who now, after having to move out of their parent's house, getting a job of their own, starting a family, and realizing how the world really works, has now matured and come to the realization that liberal idealism is a joke, which tries to force equality where it can't exist naturally. Consequently, their viewpoint have changed to embrace what traditional conservative values are. So a "neo conservative" is a liberal convert. Seems to be a lot of those lately. Liberalism is having a tough time holding on to people over the age of 30. Unless, of course, they haven't yet achieved anything, and still look to the government for "help"...... Dave Maybe Dave just used a fairly standard and respected source for his definition, Meriam-Webster's dictionary, which defines a neoconservative: a former liberal espousing political conservatism. It was even simpler than that. I just applied a chain of simple logic based on the definitions previously provided. If "neo" is new, then if someone is a "neo"conservative, that implies that they were previously something else. The most common "other" ideology would be a liberal. Therefore, a "new" conservative would most likely be an "old" liberal. Of course there is always a few exceptions to this (A disclaimer for guys like Doug K, who like to construct strawman rebuttals to prove those few exceptions, as if that invalidates the rule). So, his initial assumption was pretty darn correct. However, since Webster's does not put any time reference in its definition, the assumption that the liberal who switched must be old is just that - an assumption. The term "old" does not refer so much to a particular age, as it does to a previous position. There are both young and old neoconservatives. It's never too late to wake up and smell the coffee ;-) Many of us, during high school and college, considered ourselves "liberal," but woke up and realized that the rhetoric dealing with helping the poor was just that. The name of the game is power, whether the clothing is sheep's or not. Experience and cynicism will do that to a person. I was very idealistic when I was in school. Life's hard lessons soon evaporated that. Dave |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Dave Hall wrote:
it's just that they stand firm in their resolve. They make the hard decisions rather than engaging in endless debates from infinite angles. Even when their assumptions are wrong and events prove their thinking is leading to one disaster after another. Rigid personality disorder, eh? |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On 23 Jun 2004 02:44:27 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: Please Chuckie, whats your definition of a neocon? (Since you asked) Rather than a person who is newly conservative, (which a neocon may or may not be), a neocon is a person who subscribes to the "new" conservatism. The new conseratism is a black vs. white philosophy. All things are either very good, or very wicked. The new conservatism, like all philosophies, defines its own values as the "very good" values and all others as the "very wicked". All values are extreme in neoconservatism. And you gave ME a lecture for making assumptions? This definition is nothing more than liberal justification for their demonization of those who refuse to bend before their "enlightened" viewpoint. It's not that so-called "neocons" resort to binary thinking, it's just that they stand firm in their resolve. They make the hard decisions rather than engaging in endless debates from infinite angles. I call it taking debate into the minutia in order to bore people into losing interest, thus becoming apathetic to what moral change is in store. The Impeached Ones defense attorney's were great at taking each and every piece of evidence and twisting it until interest faded. The impression would be defeat but really it was just people tuned out. Liberals have a way with over analyzing the obvious. At some point the obvious becomes insulting. Not all issues are good/bad black/white etc, but there are those which are, and they need to be dealt with accordingly. Trying to turn an essentially black/white issue into infinite shades of gray does nothing more than invite endless debates on semantics, and hopelessly bogs down the main issue with all sorts of "baggage". All of which results in the inability to reach consensus and arrive at a definitive decision. Guys like John Kerry who constantly waffle back and forth and refuse to define their position by anything other than the political winds are good examples of this. The Commander in Chief (they seldom refer to him anymore as the president) is God's Chosen Leader for the American People, and those who oppose or even question Him are aiding and abetting our rapidly increasing number of enemies. So you are of the opinion that pundit hacks like Michael Moore(on) spewing their ever public dissent in a world forum, does not undermine our efforts and by extension emboldens our enemies? Do you not agree that despite our internal differences, that we should still attempt to present a united front? Is the idea of fighting terrorism so repugnant to the left, that denouncing it in a public forum is more important than defending America? Liberals don't see the bigger picture, they live for the moment. What ever they can do to win pack power that Bush won illigentamately from AlGore, the sooner they can raise taxes and spend your money on them selves and their base. I read an artical that claimed AlGore's support comes mainly from inner city high school drop outs. If this is true, is it no wonder why the Democrat Party is 'bluest' around the big cities? http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/cbc/map.htm Or is it possible that you do not agree that the people responsible for terrorism are our real enemies? Yea, I know, liberals do not believe in true evil. Liberals believe that "bad" people are they way they are due to some social or environmental injustice. Maybe we should just send them money and some really good drugs and the problem will just go away on its own....... With Saddamn is was the fact he got away with killing a 10 year old school mate. Dave |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Looking at these numbers helps one to understand the wisdom of
our forefathers in creating the Electoral College system. The difference in the vote count in just New York City might have elected Al Gore, in a popular vote only system. http://www.rosecity.net/al_gore/election_map.html "mono sect" wrote in message ... "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On 23 Jun 2004 02:44:27 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: Please Chuckie, whats your definition of a neocon? (Since you asked) Rather than a person who is newly conservative, (which a neocon may or may not be), a neocon is a person who subscribes to the "new" conservatism. The new conseratism is a black vs. white philosophy. All things are either very good, or very wicked. The new conservatism, like all philosophies, defines its own values as the "very good" values and all others as the "very wicked". All values are extreme in neoconservatism. And you gave ME a lecture for making assumptions? This definition is nothing more than liberal justification for their demonization of those who refuse to bend before their "enlightened" viewpoint. It's not that so-called "neocons" resort to binary thinking, it's just that they stand firm in their resolve. They make the hard decisions rather than engaging in endless debates from infinite angles. I call it taking debate into the minutia in order to bore people into losing interest, thus becoming apathetic to what moral change is in store. The Impeached Ones defense attorney's were great at taking each and every piece of evidence and twisting it until interest faded. The impression would be defeat but really it was just people tuned out. Liberals have a way with over analyzing the obvious. At some point the obvious becomes insulting. Not all issues are good/bad black/white etc, but there are those which are, and they need to be dealt with accordingly. Trying to turn an essentially black/white issue into infinite shades of gray does nothing more than invite endless debates on semantics, and hopelessly bogs down the main issue with all sorts of "baggage". All of which results in the inability to reach consensus and arrive at a definitive decision. Guys like John Kerry who constantly waffle back and forth and refuse to define their position by anything other than the political winds are good examples of this. The Commander in Chief (they seldom refer to him anymore as the president) is God's Chosen Leader for the American People, and those who oppose or even question Him are aiding and abetting our rapidly increasing number of enemies. So you are of the opinion that pundit hacks like Michael Moore(on) spewing their ever public dissent in a world forum, does not undermine our efforts and by extension emboldens our enemies? Do you not agree that despite our internal differences, that we should still attempt to present a united front? Is the idea of fighting terrorism so repugnant to the left, that denouncing it in a public forum is more important than defending America? Liberals don't see the bigger picture, they live for the moment. What ever they can do to win pack power that Bush won illigentamately from AlGore, the sooner they can raise taxes and spend your money on them selves and their base. I read an artical that claimed AlGore's support comes mainly from inner city high school drop outs. If this is true, is it no wonder why the Democrat Party is 'bluest' around the big cities? http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/cbc/map.htm Or is it possible that you do not agree that the people responsible for terrorism are our real enemies? Yea, I know, liberals do not believe in true evil. Liberals believe that "bad" people are they way they are due to some social or environmental injustice. Maybe we should just send them money and some really good drugs and the problem will just go away on its own....... With Saddamn is was the fact he got away with killing a 10 year old school mate. Dave |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Too rich!
All from the same post: It's not that so-called "neocons" resort to binary thinking, Followed by: This definition is nothing more than liberal justification for their demonization of those who refuse to bend before their "enlightened" viewpoint. and They make the hard decisions rather than engaging in endless debates from infinite angles. and Trying to turn an essentially black/white issue into infinite shades of gray does nothing more than invite endless debates on semantics, and hopelessly bogs down the main issue with all sorts of "baggage". and Is the idea of fighting terrorism so repugnant to the left, that denouncing it in a public forum is more important than defending America? and Or is it possible that you do not agree that the people responsible for terrorism are our real enemies? Yea, I know, liberals do not believe in true evil. Liberals believe that "bad" people are they way they are due to some social or environmental injustice. Maybe we should just send them money and some really good drugs and the problem will just go away on its own....... Ta Da! :-) |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Is Al Gore running for something?
What support does this person mean? This anonymous poster must hail from the inner city, juding from this paragraph: What ever they can do to win pack power that Bush won illigentamately from AlGore, the sooner they can raise taxes and spend your money on them selves and their base. I read an artical that claimed AlGore's support comes mainly from inner city high school drop outs. Suppose that's why when Al Gore went head to head with GWB in the last election he got the most votes? According to the "artical" there must have been an "illigentamate" vote count in "AlGore's" favor. Either the greatest number of people in America are inner-city high school dropouts, or the poster should consider going "pack" to the source of this drivel with some serious questions. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
It was even simpler than that. I just applied a chain of simple logic
based on the definitions previously provided. If "neo" is new, then if someone is a "neo"conservative, that implies that they were previously something else. The most common "other" ideology would be a liberal. Therefore, a "new" conservative would most likely be an "old" liberal. Binary thinking at its finest. Only two possibilities to consider. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Gould 0738 wrote:
Is Al Gore running for something? What support does this person mean? This anonymous poster must hail from the inner city, juding from this paragraph: What ever they can do to win pack power that Bush won illigentamately from AlGore, the sooner they can raise taxes and spend your money on them selves and their base. I read an artical that claimed AlGore's support comes mainly from inner city high school drop outs. Suppose that's why when Al Gore went head to head with GWB in the last election he got the most votes? According to the "artical" there must have been an "illigentamate" vote count in "AlGore's" favor. Either the greatest number of people in America are inner-city high school dropouts, or the poster should consider going "pack" to the source of this drivel with some serious questions. I really wonder sometimes what the future of this country will be, with so many simple-minded, semi-literate right-wingers running loose. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Dave Hall wrote:
On 23 Jun 2004 15:22:13 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: It was even simpler than that. I just applied a chain of simple logic based on the definitions previously provided. If "neo" is new, then if someone is a "neo"conservative, that implies that they were previously something else. The most common "other" ideology would be a liberal. Therefore, a "new" conservative would most likely be an "old" liberal. Binary thinking at its finest. Only two possibilities to consider. Sometimes that's all there is. Are you familiar with Occam's razor? Dave I am. Old William called for a minimum number of points *necessary*. For issues as complex as a worldwide Islamist insurgency, black or white ain't enough. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
Binary thinking at its finest. Only two possibilities to consider.
Are you sure you want to describe this process as "thinking?" Dave Hall wrote: Sometimes that's all there is. Are you familiar with Occam's razor? Yep. Very good Dave. Either you're with us, or you're against us... intensely paranoid psychosis, logically justified. DSK |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:08:13 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: Dave Hall wrote: it's just that they stand firm in their resolve. They make the hard decisions rather than engaging in endless debates from infinite angles. Even when their assumptions are wrong and events prove their thinking is leading to one disaster after another. No one has yet to prove that those decisions were wrong (your biased and ill-informed opinions do not count), or that these decisions have been a "disaster". We've lost more lives in one campaign in WWII than we have in the whole Iraq war to date. Yet by the logic of some of you guys on the left, we probably should have abandoned our effort in WWII as well. No one (At least no one with an ounce of realism) claimed going into this war on terrorism, that it would be easy. Our enemy is hard to identify, and hides behind the protection of many contributors. Should this mean that we should do nothing? Or should we try to "reason" with people who have openly stated that their goal is to drive western culture from their lands, and ultimately from the face of the earth? What bargaining chip could we hold for them? What concessions could we offer? What other course of action would be preferable to the one which our leader has selected? Did you even think that we might need to establish a base of operation so that we can carry on the next phase of this campaign? There are a lot of smoking guns in Saudi Arabia, and in Iran. If we were to seriously pursue this, we would jeopardize our oil imports as well as present a logistical problem. Having Iraq for both substitute oil and as a point of deployment makes strategic and tactical sense. What you call "Bush's stupidity" may very well be a cleverly organized and well thought out effort. 20 years from now, and we'll look back a bit differently than we are now. Rigid personality disorder, eh? No, it's called doing what's right, even if it makes some people uncomfortable in the short term. If we don't fight the battle now, our children will have to, and the odds will be less in our favor. Dave |
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Dave Hall wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:08:13 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: it's just that they stand firm in their resolve. They make the hard decisions rather than engaging in endless debates from infinite angles. Even when their assumptions are wrong and events prove their thinking is leading to one disaster after another. No one has yet to prove that those decisions were wrong (your biased and ill-informed opinions do not count), or that these decisions have been a "disaster". Bush's "war against terrorism" is a fraud and a disaster, no matter how you and the other binaries try to spin it. What you call "Bush's stupidity" may very well be a cleverly organized and well thought out effort. 20 years from now, and we'll look back a bit differently than we are now. Are you competing for the "Today's Laugh" prize? Rigid personality disorder, eh? No, it's called doing what's right, even if it makes some people uncomfortable in the short term. There's nothing right about Bush policies, except, of course, that they are mostly extremely right...wing. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:01:46 -0400, mono sect wrote:
Looking at these numbers helps one to understand the wisdom of our forefathers in creating the Electoral College system. The difference in the vote count in just New York City might have elected Al Gore, in a popular vote only system. http://www.rosecity.net/al_gore/election_map.html There's considerable blue on that map. If land could vote, but it can't, so what's your point? There were several reasons our founding fathers set up the Electoral College. One of them was to avoid partisan politics. http://www.fec.gov/pdf/eleccoll.pdf |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
John H wrote:
If a traditional conservative was a liberal, then he/she is a neoconservative. Perhaps you mean to say that Rush, Coulter, etc. are right wing extremists. I don't agree with that, but unless they were former liberals, which they may have been, then they aren't neoconservatives. Fortunately for you, you don't have to qualify in knowledge of modern English in order to babysit as a sub... |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
And your point is?
I see you failed to address the questions that I posed, There was no need, Dave. The question was, "Is neo-conservatism an absolute and binary philosophy?" Rather than identify with the classic or traditional conservatives, (about whom I said some respectful things), you elected to defend neo-conservatism. While defending neo-conservatism against my charges of polarized perceptions and self vindicating philosophies, you chose to use a series of absolutist, binary, rebuttals. That's similar to posting, "Whuyt the heck do yu mein I dont kno how to spiel?" The body of your rebuttal carries the opposing argument. No point to kick you any further when you're down. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
If a traditional conservative was a liberal, then he/she is a
neoconservative. Reread what you wrote. Very slowly. Regardless what a traditional conservative *was*, anybody who can be indentified as a traditional conservative *is* just that. A traditional conservative. Those who subscribe to neo-conservaTISM are neo-cons, regardless of previous affilitations or beliefs. One can "progress" from rational conservatism to neo-conservatism. No detour to liberalism required. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:27:10 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:
John H wrote: If a traditional conservative was a liberal, then he/she is a neoconservative. Perhaps you mean to say that Rush, Coulter, etc. are right wing extremists. I don't agree with that, but unless they were former liberals, which they may have been, then they aren't neoconservatives. Fortunately for you, you don't have to qualify in knowledge of modern English in order to babysit as a sub... Harry, you've shown your colors. Goodbye. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
John H wrote:
Any conservative who *was* a liberal *is* a neoconservative. Why is Webster not sufficient as a source any longer? So, if this definition is correct, then Bush & Cheney not to mention Wolfowitz etc etc all *used* to be liberals? Interesting. When was this, exactly? DSK |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in theteeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
John H wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:27:10 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: If a traditional conservative was a liberal, then he/she is a neoconservative. Perhaps you mean to say that Rush, Coulter, etc. are right wing extremists. I don't agree with that, but unless they were former liberals, which they may have been, then they aren't neoconservatives. Fortunately for you, you don't have to qualify in knowledge of modern English in order to babysit as a sub... Harry, you've shown your colors. Goodbye. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! John, it isn't my problem that you are a simple-minded fool, lazy, and cannot figure out the modern-day meaning of a word in common usage. It is, however, a problem for the school district where you sub. That and your disdain for the black students in the schools where you sub make you quite a piece of work. If you weren't so intellectually lazy and working so hard at being disengenuous, you'd know that "neoconservative refers to the extremist right-wing ideology of the current Republican leadership which, though it sprung out of the conservative movement, isn't conservative at all in any traditional sense (in that radicalism is, by definition, not conservative). This definition seems to be the dominant one." No cite for you. Easy enough to find. |
Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:34:47 -0400, DSK wrote:
John H wrote: Any conservative who *was* a liberal *is* a neoconservative. Why is Webster not sufficient as a source any longer? So, if this definition is correct, then Bush & Cheney not to mention Wolfowitz etc etc all *used* to be liberals? Interesting. When was this, exactly? DSK Doug, I didn't make up the definition. Go he http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...ve&x=10 &y=13 I have no reason to think the dictionary got it wrong. If Bush, et al, are neoconservatives, then, by definition, they were former liberals who are now espousing political conservatism. If they are not former liberals, then they are not neoconservatives, by definition. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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