Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"John H" wrote in message
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They're educated, wealthy, vain individuals with a high capacity for hate.

Sounds like the current leaders of the democratic party.

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Butch Davis wrote:

Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's

Bush

who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on

Terrorism.


Furthermore, who

but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the

driving

force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the

Middle

East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has

had no

part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?




Funny that you mention Afghanistan in the same breath as Iraq. So you
think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an
"escalation
of terrorist activities"?




For the first few days after 9-11, my government had me convinced the
country of Afghanistan was the perpetrator of that particular horror.

You mean you got bad intel?


But then we started receiving some facts and it became apparent that
Afghanistan was not to blame.

No? bin Laden claimed responsibility for the attack. He was living in
Afghanistan under the protection of Mullah Omar's Taliban. In November
2001, Omar had this to say:

The BBC's Pashto service has interviewed Taleban leader Mullah Mohammad
Omar.
The BBC asked the questions through a Taleban intermediary over satellite
phone. He passed them on to the Taleban leader through a hand-held radio and
then attached the phone's receiver to the radio for Mullah Omar's answers.

The following is the transcript of the interview

What do you think of the current situation in Afghanistan?

You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created concern. But the
current situation in Afghanistan is related to a bigger cause - that is the
destruction of America.

And on the other hand, the screening of Taleban [for those who are or are
not loyal] is also in process. We will see these things happen within a
short while.

What do you mean by the destruction of America? Do you have a concrete plan
to implement this?

The plan is going ahead and, God willing, it is being implemented.

But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and comprehension of human
beings.

If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time;
keep in mind this prediction.

Osama Bin Laden has reportedly threatened that he would use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against America. Is your threat related to
his?


This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real
matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it [America] will
fall to the ground.



I'm not sure why we went into Afghanistan

Why? Because Omar was the leader of the country, and he was openly
admitting to working with bin Laden in bin Laden's attempt to bring about
the "extinction of America".

Have you gone off your rocker, Harry?

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Butch Davis wrote:

Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's

Bush

who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on

Terrorism.


Furthermore, who

but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the

driving

force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the

Middle

East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has

had no

part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?




Funny that you mention Afghanistan in the same breath as Iraq. So you
think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an
"escalation
of terrorist activities"?




For the first few days after 9-11, my government had me convinced the
country of Afghanistan was the perpetrator of that particular horror.
But then we started receiving some facts and it became apparent that
Afghanistan was not to blame.

I'm not sure why we went into Afghanistan, other than to give the Bush
misAdministration a chance to show Americans it was doing "something
about terrorism." Oh...and we picked up a few of Osama's boys and
toppled an incompetent, repressive government that didn't like us so we
could replace it with an incompetent, repressive government that doesn't
like us a little less.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1657368.stm

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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So you think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an
"escalation
of terrorist activities"?

At your trade school, did you learn anything about COMPLEX SYSTEMS?

In engineering, we dealt in quantitative (not qualitative) analysis. In
dentistry, we practice medicine based upon science (ie--cause and effect,
and determinism) rather than chaos theory.

If so,
how do you suppose it might apply to your question, above?

Afghanistan was ground zero for the planning and training for 9/11. Whether
or not attacking them caused an escalation in terror attacks is irrelevant.
The fact of the matter is that we needed to disrupt the training camps
there.

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

NOYB wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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So you think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an

"escalation

of terrorist activities"?

At your trade school, did you learn anything about COMPLEX SYSTEMS?


In engineering, we dealt in quantitative (not qualitative) analysis. In
dentistry, we practice medicine based upon science (ie--cause and effect,
and determinism) rather than chaos theory.

If so,

how do you suppose it might apply to your question, above?


Afghanistan was ground zero for the planning and training for 9/11. Whether
or not attacking them caused an escalation in terror attacks is irrelevant.
The fact of the matter is that we needed to disrupt the training camps
there.





From what I have read, the USA was ground zero for flight training and
planning.

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

NOYB wrote:
In engineering, we dealt in quantitative (not qualitative) analysis.

That's funny. Actually, in *real* engineering, we can deal with both.

... In
dentistry, we practice medicine based upon science (ie--cause and effect,
and determinism) rather than chaos theory.

Actually, chaos theory *is* science. It is an analytical tool just like
statistics.


Afghanistan was ground zero for the planning and training for 9/11.

??? I thought the big terrorist training ground was in Iraq? So if it
was in Afghanistan, why did we invade Iraq (other than Rumsfeld's logic
"there are good targets there")

DSK

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

NOYB wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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So you think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an

"escalation

of terrorist activities"?

At your trade school, did you learn anything about COMPLEX SYSTEMS?


In engineering, we dealt in quantitative (not qualitative) analysis. In
dentistry, we practice medicine based upon science (ie--cause and effect,
and determinism) rather than chaos theory.
=


Chaos theory is real science.

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
In engineering, we dealt in quantitative (not qualitative) analysis.

That's funny. Actually, in *real* engineering, we can deal with both.

I never *practiced* "real" engineering. In school, we dealt with knowns and
quantitative analysis.


... In
dentistry, we practice medicine based upon science (ie--cause and
effect,
and determinism) rather than chaos theory.

Actually, chaos theory *is* science. It is an analytical tool just like
statistics.


In medicine, we treat patients based upon determinism. You can't treat
diseases based upon chaos theory and randomness.



Afghanistan was ground zero for the planning and training for 9/11.

??? I thought the big terrorist training ground was in Iraq?

It was one of them. As was Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia,
Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan. However, after 9/11, all but Afghanistan,
Iraq, Syria and Iran helped us in the war on terrorism. That's why Iran is
next...and Syria isn't far behind.


So if it
was in Afghanistan, why did we invade Iraq (other than Rumsfeld's logic
"there are good targets there")

Are you really naive enough to believe that all the terrorists, and all the
money funding those terrorists, and all the intel used to train those
terrorists came from one country?

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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So you think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an

"escalation

of terrorist activities"?

At your trade school, did you learn anything about COMPLEX SYSTEMS?


In engineering, we dealt in quantitative (not qualitative) analysis.
In
dentistry, we practice medicine based upon science (ie--cause and
effect,
and determinism) rather than chaos theory.
=


Chaos theory is real science.

It's not "real" medicine however...at least not real *Western* medicine.
Perhaps the holistic folks who treat psychosomatic diseases delve into the
realm of chaos theory and its application to medicine...but not
dentists...and not reputable physicians.

Terrorism UP under Bush Regime
 

"John H" wrote in message
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Bull hockey! These terrorists are not starving, poverty ridden, ignorant,
desperate, etc. etc. That is garbage. Quit trying to make terrorism sound
as
though it's our fault. What tripe.

John H

John, sit down. What I'm about to say may shock you to the point where you
will need medical attention. Ready?

I agree with you. But (and there's always a but), I agree with a tiny part
of what you said: "...as though it's our fault...". I agree that it's not
our fault. But, in fact, the terrorists *are* disenfranchised, just like the
groups of wannabe gangstas you see on street corners in OUR inner cities.
However, the disenfranchised will always aim their wrath at the most obvious
symbol of affluence, which, in this case, is US.

If you'd occasionally listen to grown-up news sources, you'd know that real
people in the Middle East acknowledge that their leaders have failed
miserably when it comes to making a better world for future generations. As
you know, various social movements in America which began 100 years ago have
still not taken hold completely. Welcome to the real world. While we wait
for the Middle East to deal with its problems, we will be the target of
anger.