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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. |
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Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch. Period. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"Jim" wrote in message et... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. I don't think buffon is strong enough...the sad fact of the matter is that there is NO WAY in a society such as ours to completely prevent an attack. We are too free, too open a society to prevent any attacks. The bast we can do is process intelligence and do our best to REMOVE THE MOST LIKELY attackers. That is what we are doing today, under GWB. But then again, GWB can't win with the left. If he talks about a possible attack now, he is criticized for not being specific enough or for doing so in an effort to try to make people forget about the economy (even though it is improving)...but if we were to be attacked again and he had given no warning (and we will be attacked again, just a matter of time) the left would be all over him for not warning the public. The US is not quite a ship is it? For one thing, in the ocean you don't have anyone coming over the rails trying to kill you, it is very easy to control access, and all on board are military personnel. Nice analogy though, Boo Radley. But speaking of ships, how about the Cole? Or the embassy bombings? Or the 1993 attack on the WTC? Or...oh, what's the point, you probably think that was GWB's fault too, even though Clinton was poking Monica in the oval office at the time... |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... wrote: "Jim" wrote in message et... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. I don't think buffon is strong enough...the sad fact of the matter is that there is NO WAY in a society such as ours to completely prevent an attack. We are too free, too open a society to prevent any attacks. The bast we can do is process intelligence and do our best to REMOVE THE MOST LIKELY attackers. That is what we are doing today, under GWB. But then again, GWB can't win with the left. If he talks about a possible attack now, he is criticized for not being specific enough or for doing so in an effort to try to make people forget about the economy (even though it is improving)...but if we were to be attacked again and he had given no warning (and we will be attacked again, just a matter of time) the left would be all over him for not warning the public. The US is not quite a ship is it? For one thing, in the ocean you don't have anyone coming over the rails trying to kill you, it is very easy to control access, and all on board are military personnel. Nice analogy though, Boo Radley. You dropped out of school when? You Konservatrashers are absurd; no matter how badly your Bush boy screws up, you give him a pass. And yet another example of a member of the extreme right wing trio (Krause, DKS and Q) unable to respond to a valid argument, thus resulting to insults. Laughable. |
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Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... wrote: "Jim" wrote in message et... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... noah wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: snippage-my apologies It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking... Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I don't think so. As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since 9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a "high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first. "Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!! More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error". The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does not care who is running the show. Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by demonstrations and RPG's. For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot, control, populated by people that we do not understand. My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of such sacrifice. My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this war. noah I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense. Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting. You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin. We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans. Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then on the hands of BJ Clinton? Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11, and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the month of August off. Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it. If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who was captain the year earlier? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault. I don't think buffon is strong enough...the sad fact of the matter is that there is NO WAY in a society such as ours to completely prevent an attack. We are too free, too open a society to prevent any attacks. The bast we can do is process intelligence and do our best to REMOVE THE MOST LIKELY attackers. That is what we are doing today, under GWB. But then again, GWB can't win with the left. If he talks about a possible attack now, he is criticized for not being specific enough or for doing so in an effort to try to make people forget about the economy (even though it is improving)...but if we were to be attacked again and he had given no warning (and we will be attacked again, just a matter of time) the left would be all over him for not warning the public. The US is not quite a ship is it? For one thing, in the ocean you don't have anyone coming over the rails trying to kill you, it is very easy to control access, and all on board are military personnel. Nice analogy though, Boo Radley. You dropped out of school when? You Konservatrashers are absurd; no matter how badly your Bush boy screws up, you give him a pass. And yet another example of a member of the extreme right wing trio (Krause, DKS and Q) unable to respond to a valid argument, thus resulting to insults. Laughable. No valid argument was presented, not by the idiot whose post appears above and certainly not by you. There are a couple of Republican/Conservative thinkers who occasionally post here; you are not among that number. What's the point in refuting the post of one of you right-wing idiots? Answer: there's no point at all. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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