"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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With the death of Reagan, it's difficult to identify a living, modern,
icon of
practical conservatism.

Daniel Patrick Moynihan, though dead, still lives around here. We're trying
to find another such spirit to represent NY in the future.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:05:22 -0700, jps wrote:

When Clinton dies, you'll all be talking about how he was a philandering
liar. I'll be hoping that his soul rests in peace.


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Clinton was what he was, all that and more. I actually liked the guy
and respected his leadership ability but there's no escaping the other
side, and his arrogance at thinking it didn't matter.


At least you recognize his leadership abilities. The self-proclaimed saints
around here refuse to see that.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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With the death of Reagan, it's difficult to identify a living, modern,
icon of
practical conservatism.

And, of course, there's Mario Cuomo, if we could get him to run again, and
get his son to crawl under a rock and stay there.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Reagan was the most "presidential" personality to occupy the White House
in the last thirty years. It's possible to disagree with political
philosophy
(as I did and do) and still respect the person.

(Or at least is was. These extremist days, you're either on board 100% or
you're "evil").

Regan redeemed Republican presidential politics after the Nixon/Agnew/Ford
scandals, "pardons", and general disgrace. He did as much as any
individual
person did to bring an end to the Cold War.

I voted for Reagan, once. Although the endorsement had nothing to do with
my
vote, that could have been the same year that organized labor, (Teamsters,
anyway), took the unusual step of endorsing a Republican for president.

By the same token Reagan was probably one of the few Republican
politicians who
had served as the head of a major labor union himself. (S.A.G.)

With the death of Reagan, it's difficult to identify a living, modern,
icon of
practical conservatism. So many on both sides today are "my way or the
highway," we are in danger of losing the art of creative and effective
compromise in government.

It's too bad that President Reagan died. (Why is it easier to say
"President
Reagan" than "President Clinton" or "President Bush"?) Until some brighter
light emerges from among the major players on the current political scene,
(both incumbents and challengers), we may have to conclude, with regret,
that
they just don't make many people like that any more.

The only up side is that his suffering is finally over. Ther may be more
dignity in a peaceful death than he was enjoying in the last flickers of a
difficult daily life.

Nancy Reagan epitomized love as she cared for Ronnie over the last 10
years or
so. In her own way, she has shown an unusual strength of character as
well.

I always think of the lines from Tennyson
when somebody I liked or respected passes on. If you read this slowly, and
contemplate the meaning of each line, it's extremely beautiful. Reagan was
a
horseman, not a boater as far as I know, but here is anyway:

Sunset and evening star,
And one clear call for me!
And may there be no moaning of the bar,
When I put out to sea,
But such a tide as moving seems asleep,
Too full for sound and foam,
When that which drew from out the boundless deep
Turns again home.

Twilight and evening bell,
And after that the dark!
And may there be no sadness of farewell,
When I embark;
For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place
The flood may bear me far,
I hope to see my Pilot face to face
When I have crost the bar.



Well said.

db

"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"jps" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
A fond farewell salute.

Having grown up in the 50's and having survived the 60's and 70's,
Ronald
Reagan made me proud again to be an American.

A lot more benign than the current idiot in chief but no less costly to
the US.

Iran-Contra
Bank deregulation and bailout

He was a nice pig and a good speaker.


You truly have no class.

So, do you think that, because he's dead, that all of the ills that he
caused this country should be forgotten, or forgiven?

"NOYB" wrote in message ...
God bless you President Reagan. Thank you for your service to our country.

Lemming.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
A fond farewell salute.

Having grown up in the 50's and having survived the 60's and 70's,
Ronald
Reagan made me proud again to be an American.

A lot more benign than the current idiot in chief but no less costly
to
the US.

Iran-Contra
Bank deregulation and bailout

He was a nice pig and a good speaker.


You truly have no class.

So, do you think that, because he's dead, that all of the ills that he
caused this country should be forgotten, or forgiven?

As Gould pointed out, social decorum usually dictates that people avoid
attacking the recently deceased at least until the body is cold. But I
don't expect you to understand either...since you, too, have no class.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
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God bless you President Reagan. Thank you for your service to our
country.

Lemming.

No class.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
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God bless you President Reagan. Thank you for your service to our
country.

Lemming.

Poor Kevin Noble, his brain riddled with FAS.

"Joe" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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God bless you President Reagan. Thank you for your service to our
country.

Lemming.

Poor Kevin Noble, his brain riddled with FAS.

Please tell the group what you know Joe, I LOVE making you look like
the idiot that you are!!!!!!