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*JimH* October 3rd 05 01:03 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this
ridiculous allegation.


Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of
a
lie.


You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper



More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post
from the real Skipper from back in 2001:

Quote:

Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers
Lee and Low Blow.

Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of
grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the
listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a
mistake.
If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your
unfortunate condemnation.

End quote:

If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:

"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't
working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical
change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no
provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue
to support based on an analysis of posting style.


When are you going to apologize to me for your whopper of a lie Chuck?



*JimH* October 3rd 05 01:04 AM


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 2 Oct 2005 16:30:07 -0700, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this
ridiculous allegation.

Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper
of a
lie.

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper



More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post
from the real Skipper from back in 2001:

Quote:

Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers
Lee and Low Blow.

Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of
grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the
listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a
mistake.
If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your
unfortunate condemnation.

End quote:

If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:

"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't
working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical
change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no
provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue
to support based on an analysis of posting style.


The issue is whether or not JimH is the sock puppet, as you said. He's
shown
some evidence which sure seems to indicate he isn't.

What say you?

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes


*Some* evidence? I would say pretty convincing evidence John.

And I notice that the Chuckster is not man enough to post to the thread I
pinged him on and not man enough to apologize to me.



[email protected] October 3rd 05 01:12 AM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this
ridiculous allegation.

Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of
a
lie.

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper



More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post
from the real Skipper from back in 2001:

Quote:

Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers
Lee and Low Blow.

Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of
grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the
listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a
mistake.
If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your
unfortunate condemnation.

End quote:

If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:

"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't
working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical
change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no
provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue
to support based on an analysis of posting style.


When are you going to apologize to me for your whopper of a lie Chuck?


What lie?

I suspect that you are the sock puppetmaster for psuedo-Skipper, and I
have presented the reasons I believe that to be true.

The only lie would be for me to say that I *don't* suspect you. Sorry,
dude.


[email protected] October 3rd 05 01:20 AM


*JimH* wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 2 Oct 2005 16:30:07 -0700, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this
ridiculous allegation.

Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper
of a
lie.

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper


More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post
from the real Skipper from back in 2001:

Quote:

Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers
Lee and Low Blow.

Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of
grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the
listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a
mistake.
If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your
unfortunate condemnation.

End quote:

If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:

"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't
working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical
change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no
provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue
to support based on an analysis of posting style.


The issue is whether or not JimH is the sock puppet, as you said. He's
shown
some evidence which sure seems to indicate he isn't.

What say you?

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes


*Some* evidence? I would say pretty convincing evidence John.

And I notice that the Chuckster is not man enough to post to the thread I
pinged him on and not man enough to apologize to me.



Sorry, Jimh, but while you were over here attacking me, I was already
over there
replying to your "ping" post.

I guess we'll now need to see if you're man enough to apologize for
your great big lie that I'm not man enough to reply to your "ping"
post.......or we can just let it go.

Funy, but the last time I remember you posting a string of incessant
demands for an apology it was associated with the Moped Army thread.
Remember that one?
You kept insisting that I posted an old ad with your address and phone
number in it, and repeatedly demanded an apology for doing so. I kept
refusing, as I had not committed the act you claimed. I trust you
remember how that incident turned out?


Skipper October 3rd 05 01:43 AM

wrote:

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper


If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:


"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Well, put that way, I'd have to say I was a lying sack of crap then if I
defended your business ethics. And I did defend you from several who
found your personal ethics wanting. Suppose that is one reason I was so
disappointed when I reviewed the NG archives to see what I'd missed
during my absence and read that string of back stabbing diatribes you
leveled at me AFTER I was no longer participating in the NG.

It's going to be very interesting to see if you maintain the same mantra
the next time we meet in person.

BTW, the Anacortes broker, his business, and the Sea Raven all
disappeared about the same time they stalled my offer. I wouldn't doubt
the broker bought the boat at my price when the owner accepted. I do
know that boat is now detailed as a plan at
www.kastenmarine.com as the
53' Second Star. They don't say it, but it's too much of a coincidence
not to have been inspired by the Raven.



--
Skipper

*JimH* October 3rd 05 01:48 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 2 Oct 2005 16:30:07 -0700, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with
this
ridiculous allegation.

Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his
whopper
of a
lie.

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows
have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper


More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post
from the real Skipper from back in 2001:

Quote:

Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers
Lee and Low Blow.

Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of
grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the
listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a
mistake.
If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your
unfortunate condemnation.

End quote:

If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:

"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't
working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical
change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no
provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue
to support based on an analysis of posting style.

The issue is whether or not JimH is the sock puppet, as you said. He's
shown
some evidence which sure seems to indicate he isn't.

What say you?

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes


*Some* evidence? I would say pretty convincing evidence John.

And I notice that the Chuckster is not man enough to post to the thread I
pinged him on and not man enough to apologize to me.



Sorry, Jimh, but while you were over here attacking me, I was already
over there
replying to your "ping" post.


You have been the one attacking me and lying about me.

I still await your apology for your whopper of a lie about me.



*JimH* October 3rd 05 01:48 AM


wrote in message
ps.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this
ridiculous allegation.

Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper
of
a
lie.

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows
have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper


More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post
from the real Skipper from back in 2001:

Quote:

Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers
Lee and Low Blow.

Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of
grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the
listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a
mistake.
If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your
unfortunate condemnation.

End quote:

If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:

"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't
working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical
change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no
provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue
to support based on an analysis of posting style.


When are you going to apologize to me for your whopper of a lie Chuck?


What lie?


This is too funny...............but sadly pathetic.



*JimH* October 3rd 05 01:49 AM


"Skipper" wrote in message
...
wrote:

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper


If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:


"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Well, put that way, I'd have to say I was a lying sack of crap then if I
defended your business ethics. And I did defend you from several who
found your personal ethics wanting. Suppose that is one reason I was so
disappointed when I reviewed the NG archives to see what I'd missed
during my absence and read that string of back stabbing diatribes you
leveled at me AFTER I was no longer participating in the NG.

It's going to be very interesting to see if you maintain the same mantra
the next time we meet in person.

BTW, the Anacortes broker, his business, and the Sea Raven all
disappeared about the same time they stalled my offer. I wouldn't doubt
the broker bought the boat at my price when the owner accepted. I do
know that boat is now detailed as a plan at
www.kastenmarine.com as the
53' Second Star. They don't say it, but it's too much of a coincidence
not to have been inspired by the Raven.



--
Skipper


OMG, but Chuck thinks I am you.



[email protected] October 3rd 05 02:03 AM


Skipper wrote:
wrote:

You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW
he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me,
Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have
come home. He KNOWS you are correct now.

--
Skipper


If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following
question:


"Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap
now?"


Well, put that way, I'd have to say I was a lying sack of crap then if I
defended your business ethics. And I did defend you from several who
found your personal ethics wanting. Suppose that is one reason I was so
disappointed when I reviewed the NG archives to see what I'd missed
during my absence and read that string of back stabbing diatribes you
leveled at me AFTER I was no longer participating in the NG.

It's going to be very interesting to see if you maintain the same mantra
the next time we meet in person.

BTW, the Anacortes broker, his business, and the Sea Raven all
disappeared about the same time they stalled my offer. I wouldn't doubt
the broker bought the boat at my price when the owner accepted. I do
know that boat is now detailed as a plan at
www.kastenmarine.com as the
53' Second Star. They don't say it, but it's too much of a coincidence
not to have been inspired by the Raven.



--
Skipper



More proof that psuedo Skipper is a sock puppet:

1. There has not been a "string of back stabbing diatribes" since the
real Skipper departed.

2. What the heck is a "Sea Raven?" What broker in Anacortes?
Psuedo-Skipper is offering details that even I don't remember. Next
he'll submit, as "proof", the color of the phone on my office desk :-)
(To be fair, it has been five or six years and while the real Skipper
only dealt with a handful of brokers, I have dealt with hundreds of
buyers and sellers. It would be really easy for the real Skipper to
remember more of his boat buying transactions than I do). I do think
that the real Skipper posted a link to a Yachtworld ad when he was
dreaming about some boat or another out this way, but if so I don't
remember it.

If you were the real Skipper, the next question would be: "If you now
claim you were a lying sack of crap in 2001, what suddenly makes you
credible now?"


Skipper October 3rd 05 02:04 AM

*JimH* wrote:

OMG, but Chuck thinks I am you.


Respectfully, you are incorrect on this point. He doesn't think very
well, and he KNOWS you are not Skipper.

--
Skipper


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