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*JimH* September 30th 05 06:41 PM


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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The odds of this being a mere coincidence are nearly zero. There is a
very remote possiblity that JimH found "Skippers" format in the attack
thread so "inspiring" that he deliberately or unconciously copied it
(when he inserted his personal attack post into a friendly discussion
of contrasting ideas and perceptions).



I don't know Chuck. I posed a question here that "Skipper" answered
quickly and correctly. It would have taken a bit of time and research in
Google for someone else to arrive at the correct answer. I think it is
the same person, although he does make a distinction between the "old"
Skipper and the new, revived "Skipper".

Eisboch


I would like to know how I could have known all that personal information
the Skipper has thus far shared in various threads.

Separating a quote with either ======== or +++++++ has been a trait of mine
for a while. I don't think it is unique though.

Still waiting for the apology Chuck.



JIMinFL September 30th 05 07:13 PM

+++++++++
Chuck,
You crave attention. So does Harry
You are a word crafter. So is Harry.
You claim great knowledge of boats. So does Harry.
You are into cameras and photography So is Harry.
You are a political extremist. So is Harry.
You have rental property. So does Harry.
Your personality is much like Harry's
You are an expert on everything. So is Harry
You torment Skipper. So does Harry
You avoided military service. So did Harry
You claimed "I served my country a different way". I believe those were
Harry's exact words.
You think your **** doesn't stink. So does Harry
Should we assume that you and Harry are one and the same?
++++++++++




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*JimH* wrote:
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Chuck, it seems that approach, guilty until proven innocent, is a
favorite of
liberals.
--


Are there many conservatives who cannot recognize individual behavior
and must fit everything observed into one of a few stereotypes?



And the person who said this would certainly fit that bill, eh Chuck?
;-)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
I always enjoy seeing some right winger blowing down the freeway with
his
yellow plastic "support our troops" sticker plastered over a door ding on
the fender of his Suburban. I often honk and wave, with all my fingers.
I
am in complete agreement with the literal meaning of that sentiment, (but
not the "code" talk it stands for in many cases-"Hurrah for the invasion
of
Iraq").
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



Close, but no cigar.

If I had said "all right wingers blow down the freeway in
Suburbans......." that would be a stereotype. If you read carefully, I
said "some right wingers" blow down the freeway........"

I also said I was in complete agreement with the literal meaning of the
bumper sticker. I doubt that John H is often in complete agreement with
the literal meaning of any of my opinions.

Had John said, "a favorite of some liberals" he would not have been
stereotyping, but he didn't. He claims to be a fan of binary thinking,
and in binary thinking stereotypes are probably indispensible.




Starbuck September 30th 05 07:35 PM

This sounds more like the new Skipper than JimH. Is it possible JiminFl,
Skipper, JimH, and Smithers are one in the same?


"JIMinFL" wrote in message
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+++++++++
Chuck,
You crave attention. So does Harry
You are a word crafter. So is Harry.
You claim great knowledge of boats. So does Harry.
You are into cameras and photography So is Harry.
You are a political extremist. So is Harry.
You have rental property. So does Harry.
Your personality is much like Harry's
You are an expert on everything. So is Harry
You torment Skipper. So does Harry
You avoided military service. So did Harry
You claimed "I served my country a different way". I believe those were
Harry's exact words.
You think your **** doesn't stink. So does Harry
Should we assume that you and Harry are one and the same?
++++++++++




wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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Chuck, it seems that approach, guilty until proven innocent, is a
favorite of
liberals.
--


Are there many conservatives who cannot recognize individual behavior
and must fit everything observed into one of a few stereotypes?



And the person who said this would certainly fit that bill, eh Chuck?
;-)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
I always enjoy seeing some right winger blowing down the freeway with
his
yellow plastic "support our troops" sticker plastered over a door ding
on
the fender of his Suburban. I often honk and wave, with all my fingers.
I
am in complete agreement with the literal meaning of that sentiment,
(but
not the "code" talk it stands for in many cases-"Hurrah for the invasion
of
Iraq").
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



Close, but no cigar.

If I had said "all right wingers blow down the freeway in
Suburbans......." that would be a stereotype. If you read carefully, I
said "some right wingers" blow down the freeway........"

I also said I was in complete agreement with the literal meaning of the
bumper sticker. I doubt that John H is often in complete agreement with
the literal meaning of any of my opinions.

Had John said, "a favorite of some liberals" he would not have been
stereotyping, but he didn't. He claims to be a fan of binary thinking,
and in binary thinking stereotypes are probably indispensible.






Starbuck September 30th 05 07:38 PM

I would have to agree, I don't believe I have seen any one use the
expression or the punctuation in rec.boats before, but it might be common in
certain parts of the country or forums.

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Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,
What was the evidence that lead you to believe it was JimH, do you have
the
exact expression and punctuation?



The original post in the attack thread "Open Letter to Chuck Gould" was
formatted with a question about "what do you think about his little
gem"?
A series of ++++++++++'s outlined the top and bottom of a quote
extracted from an old post of mine. Skipper had never formatted a post
like that, that I could recall, in all the years he was a prolific
poster here.

About a week later, an attack post from JimH used the *exact* same
format, even extracting a statement from context and asking about a
"little gem".
A series of +++++++++++'s set off the top and bottom of the quote.

The odds of this being a mere coincidence are nearly zero. There is a
very remote possiblity that JimH found "Skippers" format in the attack
thread so "inspiring" that he deliberately or unconciously copied it
(when he inserted his personal attack post into a friendly discussion
of contrasting ideas and perceptions).

You notice a guy hanging around outside a building. He's hiding his
face, but wearing a yellow cowboy hat, red vest, polka dot pants, green
shoes and is smoking a cigar. You're not really sure who it is. After
concluding business in the building, you walk out and see a
cigar-smoking guy wearing a yellow cowboy hat, red vest, polka dot
pants, and green shoes hanging around in the same location. On the way
out, you see his face and recognize him as so-and-so. Wouldn't most
people conclude it was the very same guy seen on the way in? There's no
proof, of course. Why, during the time you were in the building the
first person could have wandered off, and an entirely different person
with the same exceptionally unique wardrobe could have, coincidentally,
happened along and decided to smoke a cigar in exactly the same spot.
Could have, but we routinely punish defendants for crimes when the only
defense was an equally weak "could have been......"

If the sock-puppetmaster is proven to be somebody else, I will
apologize to JimH. The only other likely possibilty (based on some of
the phrasing in the latest round of sock-puppet attack posting) is so
far back in the pack that the person isn't even to the clubhouse turn
when my primary suspect is crossing the wire. :-)

The whole thing is pretty silly and a waste of time.

JimH will have his apology when and if ever this proves to be somebody
else.
I think the cigar smoker in the yellow cowboy hat and polka dot pants
noticed on the way in is the same cigar smoker noticed on the way out,
and I have expressed that opinion.










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*JimH* wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
Farrakhan is now stating that the levees *were* (not "may have
been")
blown
up to flood the black areas and save the white areas from flooding
around
New Orleans.


Farrakhan is an extremist.
As a guy firmly entrenched in the middle of the road (insert grin),
sometimes I wish these radical characters would pipe down a bit. It
gives the Limbaugh League and the Hannity Clan a really noisy
target
and the next thing you know the talk is going around, "Here's what
liberals *all* think about this or that........."


Are you are saying that you are 'middle of the road' politically and
represent the majority of views/opinions of US citizens Chuck?



Did you miss "insert grin"?
Compared to Farrakhan, I am middle of the road.
I don't care whether my views agree or disagree with the majority- I
think for myself, and the majority do not think at all.



BTW: How are you working on that apology you owe me? ;-)


It will be forthcoming if and when I'm convinced that somebody else was
sock-puppeting Skipper. There is compelling evidence that it was your
handiwork, and no evidence so far that it was anybody else.





Starbuck September 30th 05 07:39 PM

Eisboch,
I knew the answer to your question and the question from Don. Since the
real Skipper kept it front and center for over a year, it would be common
knowledge to most regulars.


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

The odds of this being a mere coincidence are nearly zero. There is a
very remote possiblity that JimH found "Skippers" format in the attack
thread so "inspiring" that he deliberately or unconciously copied it
(when he inserted his personal attack post into a friendly discussion
of contrasting ideas and perceptions).



I don't know Chuck. I posed a question here that "Skipper" answered
quickly and correctly. It would have taken a bit of time and research in
Google for someone else to arrive at the correct answer. I think it is
the same person, although he does make a distinction between the "old"
Skipper and the new, revived "Skipper".

Eisboch




Starbuck September 30th 05 07:42 PM

JimH,
The personal info "Skipper" included in his insults to Chuck was more than I
have ever read in rec.boats. What didn't seem correct was the anger
"Skipper" displayed towards Chuck. Skipper never agree with Chuck's
politics, and would trade friendly barbs with Chuck, I never saw him express
anger or hatred towards him.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

The odds of this being a mere coincidence are nearly zero. There is a
very remote possiblity that JimH found "Skippers" format in the attack
thread so "inspiring" that he deliberately or unconciously copied it
(when he inserted his personal attack post into a friendly discussion
of contrasting ideas and perceptions).



I don't know Chuck. I posed a question here that "Skipper" answered
quickly and correctly. It would have taken a bit of time and research in
Google for someone else to arrive at the correct answer. I think it is
the same person, although he does make a distinction between the "old"
Skipper and the new, revived "Skipper".

Eisboch


I would like to know how I could have known all that personal information
the Skipper has thus far shared in various threads.

Separating a quote with either ======== or +++++++ has been a trait of
mine for a while. I don't think it is unique though.

Still waiting for the apology Chuck.




PocoLoco September 30th 05 08:57 PM

On 30 Sep 2005 09:06:07 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...



Chuck, it seems that approach, guilty until proven innocent, is a
favorite of
liberals.
--


Are there many conservatives who cannot recognize individual behavior
and must fit everything observed into one of a few stereotypes?



And the person who said this would certainly fit that bill, eh Chuck? ;-)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
I always enjoy seeing some right winger blowing down the freeway with his
yellow plastic "support our troops" sticker plastered over a door ding on
the fender of his Suburban. I often honk and wave, with all my fingers. I
am in complete agreement with the literal meaning of that sentiment, (but
not the "code" talk it stands for in many cases-"Hurrah for the invasion of
Iraq").
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



Close, but no cigar.

If I had said "all right wingers blow down the freeway in
Suburbans......." that would be a stereotype. If you read carefully, I
said "some right wingers" blow down the freeway........"

I also said I was in complete agreement with the literal meaning of the
bumper sticker. I doubt that John H is often in complete agreement with
the literal meaning of any of my opinions.

Had John said, "a favorite of some liberals" he would not have been
stereotyping, but he didn't. He claims to be a fan of binary thinking,
and in binary thinking stereotypes are probably indispensible.


Where did I claim to be a fan of binary thinking? How would you define 'binary
thinking'? How do stereotypes and binary thinking go together? Are you
stereotyping binary thinkers? (If such things exist?)
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Eisboch September 30th 05 09:18 PM


"Starbuck" wrote in message
...

Eisboch,
I knew the answer to your question and the question from Don. Since the
real Skipper kept it front and center for over a year, it would be common
knowledge to most regulars.



Since I posted that reply to Chuck, something has occurred to make me think
again. I think there's something funny going on here and I am too computer
stupid to figure it out. I'll explain later.

Eisboch



Eisboch September 30th 05 09:36 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


The "new" Skipper isn't the Skipper of old. Period.



I suspect you are right. Whoops! Excuse me ... I suspect you are correct.

Eisboch




[email protected] October 1st 05 02:12 AM




Where did I claim to be a fan of binary thinking? How would you define 'binary
thinking'? How do stereotypes and binary thinking go together? Are you
stereotyping binary thinkers? (If such things exist?)
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


ROTFLMAO.

John, check your sig. You have used that sig to claim for months and
months that one must employ binary thinking to reach any sort of
decision.

Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype,
entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a
preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single
factors, you have a binary proposition.



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