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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Whatever else he is, Herring is an o.f. And I wasn't using the f*ck word, you are. We know what you are. You're a chickenhawk. And you're a classless boor. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message . net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Whatever else he is, Herring is an o.f. And I wasn't using the f*ck word, you are. o.f.=old ****, or old fart, or old fuddy-duddy, or.... It really doesn't matter. Your disdain for veterans (particularly from Vietnam) is obvious. |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:27:39 GMT, Don White wrote:
PocoLoco wrote: The feds are doing a lot of work. But, the press is going to continue eating them alive. Today's Washington Post is replete with anecdotal accounts of the feds inaction. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email One of the better one's is: ************************************* Mary Joseph, 63, a custodian from Violet, La., in a new apartment in Northland Woods off Beltway 8, is 17 miles from downtown: "We spend $30 for gas every few days, and we don't know where we are going." ************************************* Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. This is my favorite: ************************************** In Mississippi, people waiting for promised housing in the form of mobile homes or trailers found themselves in a Catch-22 situation: Even as local officials said they were waiting for FEMA to provide the shelters, officials at the federal agency said they were waiting for local officials to provide the right locations. ************************************* And, of course, this is Bush's fault because he should just take a chunk of land with no facilities and dump the shelter's there. The absolute best was Tim Russert this morning who was repeating that FEMA should have prepositioned all these shelters and supplies. Imagine the bureaucracy and resources we could pay for if we had all these huge storage sites within a hundred miles of any place in the USA that 'could' experience a natural/man-made disaster! What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. If they can arrange to camp tens of thousands of troops in a foreign land...why not the same amount of displaced citizens right in America? It should be easier, because with no one shooting at them the old fart officers could actually get close to the action instead of hiding miles away. Can you imagine the uproar if a few thousand folks were housed for a couple weeks in an un-airconditioned 'tent city'? The libs would be showing closeups of sweat and yelling at the mistreatment of fellow human beings. Of course, that's just normal in the military. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:21:36 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Aw, he has the right to call us anything he wants. The Constitution, fought for by many o.f.'s, gave him that right. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:43:32 GMT, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved...after all, he and his fellow officers did such a wonderful job for us in Vietnam, and it would be a welcome respite for John away from the danger of the schools where he substitutes and does not teach! The whole exercise could be plotted on computers Hertvik claims he can build faster, better, and cheaper, and security could be provided by Bert Robbins, the former marine and disciplinary case who was never posted overseas. Get Smithers-Starbuck involved; he could walk around and make snarky comments about the survivors trying to put their lives back together. Dammit, Don...that's a hell of an idea! Darn...I forgot about that mess in Vietnam. Those characters may not be suitable if they have to produce a resume. Gee, Don. Thanks for quoting Harry's post. I'll give it the attention it deserves................ -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote:
NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? There likely would be less. Less than zero? As in zero attacks on the US since 9/11? |
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NYOB,
Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. Did you notice the levee broke the day after the hurricane hit landfall. Very few people knew this, Harry was one of them. -- Starbuck "The people I distrust most are those who want to improve our lives but have only one course of action." -- Frank Herbert "NOYB" wrote in message .net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? There likely would be less. Less than zero? As in zero attacks on the US since 9/11? |
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"Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml |
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