JimH is correct, the real danger of leaving old oil in the engine over the
winter, is the acids and sludge that are in used oil.

If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the
boating season. I for one, only change it after the season.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:

All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the
number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did
not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will
find
is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when
winterizing the engine(s).


Why would you want to run an engine with 6 months worth of
condensation in the oil pan?


Condensation in the oil pan? How about contaminated dirty oil sitting in
the engine for 6 months.

"Starbuck's" wrote in message
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JimH is correct, the real danger of leaving old oil in the engine over the
winter, is the acids and sludge that are in used oil.

If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the
boating season. I for one, only change it after the season.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:

All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the
number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they
did
not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will
find
is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when
winterizing the engine(s).


Why would you want to run an engine with 6 months worth of
condensation in the oil pan?


Condensation in the oil pan? How about contaminated dirty oil sitting in
the engine for 6 months.






With every used boat we looked at each time we went up or down in boat size,
the first 2 questions would be:

1. Can I see the boat maintenance log or a copy of your receipts showing
the maintenance work done?

If none, I walked away.

2. How often and when do you change the oil?

If the answer was "in Spring only", I walked away.

2 simple questions that told me a whole lot about the boat maintenance.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I know a Sea//Tow operator and she has told me that every season she
can almost set her calendar by the same idiots who do the same things
every season and call for Sea//Tow.

I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be some sort of
penalty for being stupid.

There is, it's called having Bush running the country!

So you're admitting that the Democrats are stupid and unable to muster up
a coherent platform or viable candidate? Then quit voting for idiots like
Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, and Howard Dean.




Fascinating conclusion.

On 14 Sep 2005 19:48:44 -0700, wrote:

BOATU.S. TALLIES UP TOP TEN LIST OF STATES
WITH THE MOST REQUESTS FOR ON-THE-WATER ASSISTANCE

Why do Boaters Call for a Tow?

With Labor Day marking the end of the summer boating season in many
parts of the country, the nation's largest provider of on-the-water
towing and assistance, BoatU.S. Towing Services, has tallied up a list
of the top ten 10 states that had the most requests for assistance this
season. They a


1. Florida
2. California
3. New York
4. New Jersey
5. Maryland
6. North Carolina
7. Massachusetts
8. Virginia
9. Texas
10. Washington


While the list largely follows boat registration data for each state,
several states had more requests for assistance than anticipated. New
Jersey, Maryland and Massachusetts, ranked respectively #23, #25 and
#29 in the nation based on the number of registered boats, were #4, #5,
and #7 (respectively) in requests for on-the-water assistance. Last on
the list with the fewest requests for help was Vermont.

The top five reported reasons why boaters called BoatU.S. we
1. Unknown engine failure
2. Grounding
3. Out of fuel or other fuel problems
4. Battery problems & jump starts
5. Engine overheating

"Preventive maintenance is probably the number one item that all
boaters could do more of to prevent those late evening calls to our 24
hour TowBoatU.S. and Vessel Assist Pacific dispatch centers," said
Jerry Cardarelli, vice president BoatU.S. Towing Services.

If I keep boating, it'll only be a matter of time before Maryland is at the top
of the list!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:48:44 -0700, chuckgould.chuck wrote:

BOATU.S. TALLIES UP TOP TEN LIST OF STATES
WITH THE MOST REQUESTS FOR ON-THE-WATER ASSISTANCE

Why do Boaters Call for a Tow?

With Labor Day marking the end of the summer boating season in many
parts of the country, the nation's largest provider of on-the-water
towing and assistance, BoatU.S. Towing Services, has tallied up a list
of the top ten 10 states that had the most requests for assistance this
season. They a


Too bad they don't list percent (ie what percentage of registered boaters
call for a tow). Would be more useful.

Funny thing is, I've had just about all the problems listed in my 30+
years of boating, and have NEVER called for a tow. I don't even know if we
HAVE such a service in Vancouver (I've heard many idjits radioing Coast
Guard when they're out of fuel...)

Worst one was in San Juan Islands: I'd blown the main the day before, and
that morning the batteries were all dead. Sailed across the channel to
Friday Hbr on Jenny alone.

Course, I run a sailboat...

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the
boating season. I for one, only change it after the season.

The right answer.

You only need one filter change.

Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during the
season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at least
once/season.

And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the
winter layover.

JimH,
I have always used 50 hrs. and at the end of the season. I think that is
what the manu. recommended.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the
boating season. I for one, only change it after the season.

The right answer.

You only need one filter change.

Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during
the season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at
least once/season.

And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the
winter layover.

PS - Since I change the oil myself, it normally only costs $15 or so, cheap
insurance. Then again, I change my impeller every two years in the spring.


"Starbuck's" wrote in message
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JimH,
I have always used 50 hrs. and at the end of the season. I think that is
what the manu. recommended.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the
boating season. I for one, only change it after the season.

The right answer.

You only need one filter change.

Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during
the season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at
least once/season.

And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the
winter layover.

Harry Krause wrote:



I change the filter on my Yamaha 225 at the end of the season and then
after another 50 hours into the season.

Isn't 100 hours the norm? Is it different for seasonal boating?

That can get expensive. How often do you service your diesel(s)?

Dan

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:36:13 -0400, gfretwell wrote:

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:14:29 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

Course, I run a sailboat...

The only time you are in real trouble is when you run out of water
huh?

Well, once we ran out of beer and "comfort food" at about the same time.
We considered calling the Coast Guard... ;)

Lloyd