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Top Ten States where boaters require a tow:
BOATU.S. TALLIES UP TOP TEN LIST OF STATES
WITH THE MOST REQUESTS FOR ON-THE-WATER ASSISTANCE Why do Boaters Call for a Tow? With Labor Day marking the end of the summer boating season in many parts of the country, the nation's largest provider of on-the-water towing and assistance, BoatU.S. Towing Services, has tallied up a list of the top ten 10 states that had the most requests for assistance this season. They a 1. Florida 2. California 3. New York 4. New Jersey 5. Maryland 6. North Carolina 7. Massachusetts 8. Virginia 9. Texas 10. Washington While the list largely follows boat registration data for each state, several states had more requests for assistance than anticipated. New Jersey, Maryland and Massachusetts, ranked respectively #23, #25 and #29 in the nation based on the number of registered boats, were #4, #5, and #7 (respectively) in requests for on-the-water assistance. Last on the list with the fewest requests for help was Vermont. The top five reported reasons why boaters called BoatU.S. we 1. Unknown engine failure 2. Grounding 3. Out of fuel or other fuel problems 4. Battery problems & jump starts 5. Engine overheating "Preventive maintenance is probably the number one item that all boaters could do more of to prevent those late evening calls to our 24 hour TowBoatU.S. and Vessel Assist Pacific dispatch centers," said Jerry Cardarelli, vice president BoatU.S. Towing Services. |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:04:26 GMT, Red Cloud® wrote: On 14 Sep 2005 19:48:44 -0700, wrote: ~~ snippage ~~ "Preventive maintenance is probably the number one item that all boaters could do more of to prevent those late evening calls to our 24 hour TowBoatU.S. and Vessel Assist Pacific dispatch centers," said Jerry Cardarelli, vice president BoatU.S. Towing Services. I wish that TowBoat US and Seatow would start charging a $50 deductible for "Out of fuel" type calls. That would bring everybody else's rates DOWN. I totally agree with you here. I listened to a radio exchange a few weeks ago where a guy had an alarm on one of his engines and didn't know what it meant. Someone finally told him to check engine oil with the dipstick. There was NO oil on the dipstick. He then checked the other engine and it was still showing a little bit. He radios for Seatow, who determines that the guy is about a mile from a large marina where he could easily go on the one engine, and get oil. The Seatow boat was 18 miles away finishing another tow. The boater insisted on anchoring and having the Seatow operator go to a marina, buy 10 quarts of oil and bring them to him. Why not? After all, he had unlimited towing and this red carpet service wasn't gonna cost him a cent over what he paid for the policy. The oil itself would cost the same either way. That kind of nonsense costs the rest of us a lot of money! There needs to be a $50 deductible so that people pay a little more attention to things like CHECKING FUEL LEVEL and maybe even OIL LEVEL before leaving port. Here's where I disagree. If you are stupid enough to not check your oil, keep an eye on your gas and run your battery down partying and get caught, then you should pay the whole freight. If there is a cataclysmic event then fine - lack of routine maintenance shouldn't even be considered. I've been a Sea//Tow member since forever and have the super-duper coverage which covers me on any boat I'm on or in control of. I have never used the service. I know people who have used Sea//Tow three or four times a year for everything from out of gas to minor electrical problems. I know a Sea//Tow operator and she has told me that every season she can almost set her calendar by the same idiots who do the same things every season and call for Sea//Tow. I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be some sort of penalty for being stupid. All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will find is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when winterizing the engine(s). |
wrote in message oups.com... BOATU.S. TALLIES UP TOP TEN LIST OF STATES WITH THE MOST REQUESTS FOR ON-THE-WATER ASSISTANCE Why do Boaters Call for a Tow? With Labor Day marking the end of the summer boating season in many parts of the country, the nation's largest provider of on-the-water towing and assistance, BoatU.S. Towing Services, has tallied up a list of the top ten 10 states that had the most requests for assistance this season. They a 1. Florida 2. California 3. New York 4. New Jersey 5. Maryland 6. North Carolina 7. Massachusetts 8. Virginia 9. Texas 10. Washington While the list largely follows boat registration data for each state, several states had more requests for assistance than anticipated. New Jersey, Maryland and Massachusetts, ranked respectively #23, #25 and #29 in the nation based on the number of registered boats, were #4, #5, and #7 (respectively) in requests for on-the-water assistance. Last on the list with the fewest requests for help was Vermont. The top five reported reasons why boaters called BoatU.S. we 1. Unknown engine failure 2. Grounding 3. Out of fuel or other fuel problems 4. Battery problems & jump starts 5. Engine overheating Preventing each of them: #1--Maintain your engine #2--Know the waters and tides #3--Duh! Fill your tank and replace your fuel filters #4--Keep two batteries fully charged and use a battery switch #5--replace your impeller/water pump as suggested by manufacturer. Check for weeds, plastic bags or other debris in water uptake areas All but #1 should never happen. That being said, I've had #3 happen to me on an older boat (new to me though) that had a faulty fuel gauge. The gauge went from 1/2 full to empty in less than 2 miles. I've heard of poor gas mileage, but a half tank of fuel in my boat is 75 gallons. |
"Red Cloud®" wrote in message ... On 14 Sep 2005 19:48:44 -0700, wrote: BOATU.S. TALLIES UP TOP TEN LIST OF STATES WITH THE MOST REQUESTS FOR ON-THE-WATER ASSISTANCE Why do Boaters Call for a Tow? With Labor Day marking the end of the summer boating season in many parts of the country, the nation's largest provider of on-the-water towing and assistance, BoatU.S. Towing Services, has tallied up a list of the top ten 10 states that had the most requests for assistance this season. They a 1. Florida 2. California 3. New York 4. New Jersey 5. Maryland 6. North Carolina 7. Massachusetts 8. Virginia 9. Texas 10. Washington Good thing Krause has no boat... Maryland would have been first by a long shot. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I know a Sea//Tow operator and she has told me that every season she can almost set her calendar by the same idiots who do the same things every season and call for Sea//Tow. I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be some sort of penalty for being stupid. There is, it's called having Bush running the country! |
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... I know a Sea//Tow operator and she has told me that every season she can almost set her calendar by the same idiots who do the same things every season and call for Sea//Tow. I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be some sort of penalty for being stupid. All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will find is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when winterizing the engine(s). You may be right, in general, but I never log anything. I take my cars, boats, and planes in for maintenance and or repair and I let the shop keep records if they will. I don't have the patience or discipline to be on task about paperwork. I just follow the schedules for maintenance. |
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:09:51 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote: "*JimH*" wrote in message ... All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will find is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when winterizing the engine(s). You may be right, in general, but I never log anything. I take my cars, boats, and planes in for maintenance and or repair and I let the shop keep records if they will. I don't have the patience or discipline to be on task about paperwork. Then you most definitely shouldn't be allowed to fly an airplane. |
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On 14 Sep 2005 19:48:44 -0700, wrote: While the list largely follows boat registration data for each state, several states had more requests for assistance than anticipated. Another factor, which should be considered, is that of saturation of the market. The figures could be skewed one way or another due to relative saturation of the boating market with tow insurance sales, vs. number of registered boats, vs. length of boating season... etc. And maintenance will probably never be that big of an issue when BoatUS is selling the "feel good of irresponsibility" for the paltry sum of $105.00.... Isn't this a market driven issue? If "you're" willing to pay 105 for tow service and the service runs their business in the black, in spite of the out of fuel calls, how many customers would they lose with a deductible and how many would they gain because they charge less for the service? Why should they lower their prices if "you've" decided their current price is acceptable to "you?" Maybe the dummies who run out of fuel are the bulk of their market base? Penalize them and lose a large share of the market. We need data! |
"Marty" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I know a Sea//Tow operator and she has told me that every season she can almost set her calendar by the same idiots who do the same things every season and call for Sea//Tow. I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be some sort of penalty for being stupid. There is, it's called having Bush running the country! So you're admitting that the Democrats are stupid and unable to muster up a coherent platform or viable candidate? Then quit voting for idiots like Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, and Howard Dean. |
wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will find is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when winterizing the engine(s). Why would you want to run an engine with 6 months worth of condensation in the oil pan? Condensation in the oil pan? How about contaminated dirty oil sitting in the engine for 6 months. |
JimH is correct, the real danger of leaving old oil in the engine over the
winter, is the acids and sludge that are in used oil. If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the boating season. I for one, only change it after the season. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will find is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when winterizing the engine(s). Why would you want to run an engine with 6 months worth of condensation in the oil pan? Condensation in the oil pan? How about contaminated dirty oil sitting in the engine for 6 months. |
"Starbuck's" wrote in message ... JimH is correct, the real danger of leaving old oil in the engine over the winter, is the acids and sludge that are in used oil. If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the boating season. I for one, only change it after the season. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: All you have to do is go looking to buy a used boat. It is amazing the number of folks who do not log their maintenance, which tells me they did not keep up with routine maintenance. The other amazing thing you will find is the number of folks who change the oil in spring, rather than when winterizing the engine(s). Why would you want to run an engine with 6 months worth of condensation in the oil pan? Condensation in the oil pan? How about contaminated dirty oil sitting in the engine for 6 months. With every used boat we looked at each time we went up or down in boat size, the first 2 questions would be: 1. Can I see the boat maintenance log or a copy of your receipts showing the maintenance work done? If none, I walked away. 2. How often and when do you change the oil? If the answer was "in Spring only", I walked away. 2 simple questions that told me a whole lot about the boat maintenance. |
"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Marty" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I know a Sea//Tow operator and she has told me that every season she can almost set her calendar by the same idiots who do the same things every season and call for Sea//Tow. I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be some sort of penalty for being stupid. There is, it's called having Bush running the country! So you're admitting that the Democrats are stupid and unable to muster up a coherent platform or viable candidate? Then quit voting for idiots like Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, and Howard Dean. Fascinating conclusion. |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:48:44 -0700, chuckgould.chuck wrote:
BOATU.S. TALLIES UP TOP TEN LIST OF STATES WITH THE MOST REQUESTS FOR ON-THE-WATER ASSISTANCE Why do Boaters Call for a Tow? With Labor Day marking the end of the summer boating season in many parts of the country, the nation's largest provider of on-the-water towing and assistance, BoatU.S. Towing Services, has tallied up a list of the top ten 10 states that had the most requests for assistance this season. They a Too bad they don't list percent (ie what percentage of registered boaters call for a tow). Would be more useful. Funny thing is, I've had just about all the problems listed in my 30+ years of boating, and have NEVER called for a tow. I don't even know if we HAVE such a service in Vancouver (I've heard many idjits radioing Coast Guard when they're out of fuel...) Worst one was in San Juan Islands: I'd blown the main the day before, and that morning the batteries were all dead. Sailed across the channel to Friday Hbr on Jenny alone. Course, I run a sailboat... Lloyd Sumpter "Far Cove" Catalina 36 |
wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's" wrote: If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the boating season. I for one, only change it after the season. The right answer. You only need one filter change. Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during the season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at least once/season. And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the winter layover. |
JimH,
I have always used 50 hrs. and at the end of the season. I think that is what the manu. recommended. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's" wrote: If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the boating season. I for one, only change it after the season. The right answer. You only need one filter change. Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during the season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at least once/season. And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the winter layover. |
PS - Since I change the oil myself, it normally only costs $15 or so, cheap
insurance. Then again, I change my impeller every two years in the spring. "Starbuck's" wrote in message ... JimH, I have always used 50 hrs. and at the end of the season. I think that is what the manu. recommended. "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's" wrote: If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the boating season. I for one, only change it after the season. The right answer. You only need one filter change. Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during the season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at least once/season. And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the winter layover. |
Harry Krause wrote:
I change the filter on my Yamaha 225 at the end of the season and then after another 50 hours into the season. Isn't 100 hours the norm? Is it different for seasonal boating? That can get expensive. How often do you service your diesel(s)? Dan |
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:36:13 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:14:29 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Course, I run a sailboat... The only time you are in real trouble is when you run out of water huh? Well, once we ran out of beer and "comfort food" at about the same time. We considered calling the Coast Guard... ;) Lloyd |
*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:10 -0400, "Starbuck's" wrote: If you wanted the ideal situation, change your oil after and before the boating season. I for one, only change it after the season. The right answer. You only need one filter change. Not true. It is a factor of how many hours you put on the engine during the season. A good rule of thumb is an oil change every 100 hours or at least once/season. And the best time to change it, if it is only once/season, is before the winter layover. Of course you should change the oil and/or filter as recommended by the manufacturer as you log hours on the engine during the season. But I don't think that was the issue. I think the context of the "one filter change" was if you practice the "ideal" and change your oil during winterization and again in the spring. Since you have zero hours on that filter, you only need one filter change (end of the season) with those two oil changes. |
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