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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:00:25 -0400, thunder
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:28:11 -0400, P Fritz wrote:


There were also offical STATE religions until the middle 1800's

Yeah but, in the continuing dichotomy of state and federal powers,
that
was trumped by the Fourteenth Amendment. Besides, no one hear is
talking
about a state religion, they are talking about a federal religion,
and
that has always been proscribed.

I want a state sponsored religion - let's call it the Church of
Lightning and Thunder.

The mythology will be "don't pay your taxes, zap/kaboom!!!

Yeah, that works. :)


I wonder if the liebrals hear the whooshing sound passing over their
heads.

When did school systems established by state guvmint become
federalized?

The fact that official state religions existed for decades after the
founding of the federal guvmint, without objections from the writers
of
the
constitution, is proof enough that there was no intent of a "wall of
separation" that the liebrals constanting demand.


I and most people are against state religions.

I do not believe that states should have an official religion, but the
U.S.
Constitution does not prohibit it.

The US constitution also
governs what states can do.

Yes, it bars states from limiting rights granted in the US Constitution.

But no where in the constitution is the phase
"separation of church and state".

Correct.

The founders did not want a government
sanctioned religion, ala Church Of England.

They did not want a Federal Government religion.........the states were
allowed to do as they choose.


No, the states could not do as they please. The states were also bound by
the US constitution. And it is a good thing.

Nope.......the original intent of the US Constitution was to limit federal
powers to those proscribed in the Constitution, as well as defining a few
certain rights......everything else was left to the states........it has
only been through 200 years of perversion that the country has become
federalized and thus corrupted.

The fact that several states had official state religions is proof of that.
The Constitution was intended to be interpreted as it was written......thus
no "Federally established religion" not the perverted "separation of
church and state" that exists today