"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:59:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The Army Corp of Engineers may have contributed to the problem by
building
a levee on the south shore of Lake Okeechobee at the request of "Big
Sugar"...so that they could use a bunch of the land to the south of the
lake for agricultural purposes. The problem is that the natural sheet
flow of the water no longer occurs. It is now pumped unnaturally down
the
rivers (both East and West), and picks up a bunch of nitrogen-rich runoff
from the sugar cane fields.

I thought they were plans to curb the river runoffs and increase the
Everglades (sheeting) flow. What happened?

Big sugar got in the way. Besides, there are thousands of homes to the
south of those levees now. It's impossible to undo the damage.


There *are* efforts and ideas to help though. They're talking about
creating large reservoirs to pump the water to...and then allowing the
reservoirs to drain through the ground and through sheet flow. I can't
imagine what disaster they'll create with that idea...but you can be sure
that if government is involved in altering Mother Nature, they'll be some
fallout eventually (just like in New Orleans).

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:24:10 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



Did you miss the part about "rocks and bottles". In our state, it's
legal.


It is NOT legal in FL or anywhere else in the USA. Did you miss the
part about 265 to 390 feet? Not even the new "hold your ground" statue
in FL (and other states) allows this. If you expect to adopt the
position that it is reasonable, legal, and moral to arm yourself to
the teeth and kill unarmed people in self defense at over 100 yards,
you not only lose all credibility, but are proving the anti-gun nuts
correct about justification of a wild west mentality.

What do you think about the authorities in NO confiscating legally
owned and carried firearms?

I'm opposed to it.

Would you be justified in shooting a
cop who is stealing your firearm?

Nope.

Would you shoot anybody that is stealing you firearm? If so, then it
logically follows, you believe police are above the law, right?


No, I wouldn't shoot the police. I'd listen to their orders, and then I'd
let the courts deal with the legalities later on.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:47:05 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Big sugar got in the way. Besides, there are thousands of homes to the
south of those levees now. It's impossible to undo the damage.

Ah yes, the Fanjul Family, corporate welfare at it's worst. I've
mentioned before, the incestuous relationship between pork and campaign
contributions. This is a prime example. The Fanjuls contribute to *both*
Republican and Democrats, but oh, the payback, $60 million in 1998. No
worries about environmental damages, the sugar industry is subsidized to
the tune of $472 per acre. Sweet deal.

http://southernstudies.org/facingsou...over-cafta.asp

http://www.free-eco.org/articleDisplay.php?id=459

Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:21:43 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O. today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...
Is Bush toting a shotgun?
No, he's too damned stupid to know which end to put up to his shoulder.
And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage would
remember to put the damn plug in.
Are you saying that Bush wouldn't make a mistake??!!!!!

How wide was your 'Desmo'?

Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

Arabian horses everywhere are living in fear, knowing that Michael Brown
is coming back to manage them.

Just a question from a long time lurker. Is there any way to arrest your
fingers, cut off your internet providers, stop the continual drivel, if
yes POINT THE WAY.

Dry,
No, Harry has a sickness and there is not help for him.


"Dry" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:21:43 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a
nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O.
today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...
Is Bush toting a shotgun?
No, he's too damned stupid to know which end to put up to his
shoulder.
And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage
would
remember to put the damn plug in.
Are you saying that Bush wouldn't make a mistake??!!!!!

How wide was your 'Desmo'?

Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

Arabian horses everywhere are living in fear, knowing that Michael Brown
is coming back to manage them.

Just a question from a long time lurker. Is there any way to arrest your
fingers, cut off your internet providers, stop the continual drivel, if
yes POINT THE WAY.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:47:05 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Big sugar got in the way. Besides, there are thousands of homes to the
south of those levees now. It's impossible to undo the damage.

Ah yes, the Fanjul Family, corporate welfare at it's worst. I've
mentioned before, the incestuous relationship between pork and campaign
contributions. This is a prime example. The Fanjuls contribute to *both*
Republican and Democrats, but oh, the payback, $60 million in 1998. No
worries about environmental damages, the sugar industry is subsidized to
the tune of $472 per acre. Sweet deal.

http://southernstudies.org/facingsou...over-cafta.asp

http://www.free-eco.org/articleDisplay.php?id=459

One mo
http://www.waterconserve.info/articl...p?linkid=27322

The kids shot were all honor students.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1
to 2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to
be shot.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:18:54 +0000, NOYB wrote:


One mo
http://www.waterconserve.info/articl...p?linkid=27322

You may not agree with this, but I think corporate welfare may be the
biggest and most damaging threat to this country's democracy. Both
parties are guilty. It is a very incestuous relationship between the
governmental trough and political contributions. We, as citizens, pay
dearly, both financially and environmentally.