Fast times in New Orleans
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous 19
year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

NOYB wrote:
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous 19
year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

I'm imagining.. :))))

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NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.


I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O. today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...

Is Bush toting a shotgun?

And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage would
remember to put the damn plug in.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous 19
year old National Guard member while holding that gun.


Be careful, he's a hero to several folks in rec.boats!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.


Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1 to 2
days befo

Friday May 1st:
There were many separate incidents between students and police, with
bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets and police cars hit with
bottles. Rowdy groups of students began milling around the downtown streets.
Several local biker groups were also present. As the bars began closing
their doors early to avoid trouble, the students became more agitated.
Finally, violence erupted. Store windows were smashed, property was
vandalized, and shops were looted.

Saturday, May 2nd
When the National Guard arrived in town that evening, a large demonstration
was underway and the campus ROTC building was burning. Over a thousand
protesters surrounded the building and cheered the building's burning. While
attempting to extinguish the fire, several Kent firemen and police officers
were pelted with rocks and other projectiles by those standing near the
fire. More than one fire engine company had to be called in because
protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives. Again, a call for
assistance went out. The National Guard entered the campus for the first
time and set up camp directly on campus. Many arrests were made, and tear
gas was used.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:o...nt=firef ox-a

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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1 to
2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be shot.

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NOYB wrote:
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.
Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt National Guardsmen opened fire on students?
I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1
to 2 days befo

Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to
be shot.






Nothing happened that justified shooting the students.
You really don't get it.

Property damage does not trump human life...

If a group of thugs lit a bonfire in your driveway, started a fire in your
garage, and then cut your hoses and pelted you with rocks and bottles as you
tried to disperse them, would you be justified in shooting at them?

NOYB wrote:
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NOYB wrote:

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1 to
2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.


Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be shot.

Wow wee! Our NOYB is one hard assed dentist. If they ever unionize,
they'll bring the US to it's knees.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:55:01 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



If a group of thugs lit a bonfire in your driveway, started a fire in your
garage, and then cut your hoses and pelted you with rocks and bottles as
you
tried to disperse them, would you be justified in shooting at them?



According to the laws of our land, no.


Did you miss the part about "rocks and bottles". In our state, it's legal.


What do you think about the authorities in NO confiscating legally
owned and carried firearms?

I'm opposed to it.

Any problem with the fact that it is
obviously selective in nature? Would you be justified in shooting a
cop who is stealing your firearm?


Nope.

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.


I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O. today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...

Is Bush toting a shotgun?

No, he's too damned stupid to know which end to put up to his shoulder.

And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage would
remember to put the damn plug in.

Are you saying that Bush wouldn't make a mistake??!!!!!

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1 to
2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be shot.

So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

Don White wrote:

Wow wee! Our NOYB is one hard assed dentist. If they ever unionize,
they'll bring the US to it's knees.

Nah, he's just REALLY narrow minded!!

NOYB,
Not only would Harry shot them, but he would have shot them and then run
over them with his truck.

Then he would go before the judge and ask mercy on those he shot and
"trucked". ; )


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.
Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt National Guardsmen opened fire on students?
I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1
to 2 days befo

Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students. Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and
other projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to
be shot.






Nothing happened that justified shooting the students.
You really don't get it.

Property damage does not trump human life...

If a group of thugs lit a bonfire in your driveway, started a fire in your
garage, and then cut your hoses and pelted you with rocks and bottles as
you tried to disperse them, would you be justified in shooting at them?

On 12 Sep 2005 12:21:43 -0700, wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.

Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.


I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O. today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...

Is Bush toting a shotgun?

No, he's too damned stupid to know which end to put up to his shoulder.

And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage would
remember to put the damn plug in.

Are you saying that Bush wouldn't make a mistake??!!!!!

How wide was your 'Desmo'?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 12 Sep 2005 12:23:54 -0700, wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1 to
2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be shot.

So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

"I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be right up there, too!"

That's got to be a classic.

You'd better stick to fanciful motorcycle stories, Mr. "Desmo".
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1
to
2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be shot.

So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

Nope. I think that if you are part of a mob that throws rocks and bottles
at police officers and firemen, then you should expect to be shot at.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:23:54 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.
Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?
I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just
1 to
2 days befo

Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students.
Period.
Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and
other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be
shot.
So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

"I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be right up there, too!"

That's got to be a classic.

You'd better stick to fanciful motorcycle stories, Mr. "Desmo".


Been fishing this past week, Herring?

I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead grunts,
catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on an outgoing
tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large spotted trout,
and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.

JohnH,
It seems that Harry went out on his annual fishing trip this weekend.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:23:54 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.
Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?
I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just
1 to
2 days befo

Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students.
Period.
Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and
other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be
shot.
So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

"I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be right up there, too!"

That's got to be a classic.

You'd better stick to fanciful motorcycle stories, Mr. "Desmo".


Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the
attacks reminded us that we are at war."—Bush, Washington, D.C., June 8,
2005

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Been fishing this past week, Herring?

I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead
grunts, catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on an
outgoing tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large
spotted trout, and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.


We lucked out yesterday with some spanish mackerals and some bluefish. I
had heard that they were in a specific area, and apparently everyone else
did, too, because there had to be 35-45 boats fast-trolling the same area.
Clarks Spoons and rubber tube baits worked.

I love catching blues on really light tackle.

I like catching blues too. But the macks annoy the hell out of me. They
don't fight very well (except for the larger ones 24 inches), and they cut
off my sabiki rigs right above the weight. They also taste like crap...the
meat is much too soft. About the only thing they're good for is chunking up
and sending to the bottom as jewfish candy. Some guys use them for tarpon
bait too. If I lived in the Keys, or the Eastern seaboard, I'd keep all
that I could get my hands on for marlin bait.

Semi annual. I remember him posting one other time this year about a
fishing trip.

I guess he takes his 24 foot fishing boat out one time, then the custom made
36 foot lobster boat. Both are then ready for winterization.


"Starbuck's" wrote in message
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JohnH,
It seems that Harry went out on his annual fishing trip this weekend.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:23:54 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.
Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?
I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just
1 to
2 days befo

Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students.
Period.
Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and
other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be
shot.
So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

"I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be right up there, too!"

That's got to be a classic.

You'd better stick to fanciful motorcycle stories, Mr. "Desmo".


Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the
attacks reminded us that we are at war."-Bush, Washington, D.C., June 8,
2005

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Been fishing this past week, Herring?
I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead
grunts, catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on
an outgoing tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large
spotted trout, and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.

We lucked out yesterday with some spanish mackerals and some bluefish. I
had heard that they were in a specific area, and apparently everyone
else did, too, because there had to be 35-45 boats fast-trolling the
same area. Clarks Spoons and rubber tube baits worked.

I love catching blues on really light tackle.

I like catching blues too. But the macks annoy the hell out of me. They
don't fight very well (except for the larger ones 24 inches), and they
cut off my sabiki rigs right above the weight. They also taste like
crap...the meat is much too soft. About the only thing they're good for
is chunking up and sending to the bottom as jewfish candy. Some guys use
them for tarpon bait too. If I lived in the Keys, or the Eastern
seaboard, I'd keep all that I could get my hands on for marlin bait.


Spanish mack fillet out nicely. I put a mixture of lime juice and onions
on them, and they grill up delicious. They're usually too small to cut
into steaks, though.


It's not the taste, it's the texture. They're much too mushy for my taste.
I like a firmer meat like pompano/permit, grouper, cobia, wahoo, etc.
Flounder/fluke is about as soft a fish as I can enjoy...but macks are much
softer IMO.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Been fishing this past week, Herring?
I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead
grunts, catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on
an outgoing tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a
large spotted trout, and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's
dinner.
We lucked out yesterday with some spanish mackerals and some bluefish.
I had heard that they were in a specific area, and apparently everyone
else did, too, because there had to be 35-45 boats fast-trolling the
same area. Clarks Spoons and rubber tube baits worked.

I love catching blues on really light tackle.
I like catching blues too. But the macks annoy the hell out of me.
They don't fight very well (except for the larger ones 24 inches), and
they cut off my sabiki rigs right above the weight. They also taste
like crap...the meat is much too soft. About the only thing they're
good for is chunking up and sending to the bottom as jewfish candy.
Some guys use them for tarpon bait too. If I lived in the Keys, or the
Eastern seaboard, I'd keep all that I could get my hands on for marlin
bait.

Spanish mack fillet out nicely. I put a mixture of lime juice and onions
on them, and they grill up delicious. They're usually too small to cut
into steaks, though.


It's not the taste, it's the texture. They're much too mushy for my
taste. I like a firmer meat like pompano/permit, grouper, cobia, wahoo,
etc. Flounder/fluke is about as soft a fish as I can enjoy...but macks
are much softer IMO.




If you grill them, the flesh firms up.

If I grill them, they fall apart and slip through the grates.

Do you use one of those basket-type devices that close over the fillet from
both sides before grilling?

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Been fishing this past week, Herring?
I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead
grunts, catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters
on an outgoing tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a
large spotted trout, and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's
dinner.
We lucked out yesterday with some spanish mackerals and some
bluefish. I had heard that they were in a specific area, and
apparently everyone else did, too, because there had to be 35-45
boats fast-trolling the same area. Clarks Spoons and rubber tube
baits worked.

I love catching blues on really light tackle.
I like catching blues too. But the macks annoy the hell out of me.
They don't fight very well (except for the larger ones 24 inches),
and they cut off my sabiki rigs right above the weight. They also
taste like crap...the meat is much too soft. About the only thing
they're good for is chunking up and sending to the bottom as jewfish
candy. Some guys use them for tarpon bait too. If I lived in the
Keys, or the Eastern seaboard, I'd keep all that I could get my hands
on for marlin bait.

Spanish mack fillet out nicely. I put a mixture of lime juice and
onions on them, and they grill up delicious. They're usually too small
to cut into steaks, though.


It's not the taste, it's the texture. They're much too mushy for my
taste. I like a firmer meat like pompano/permit, grouper, cobia, wahoo,
etc. Flounder/fluke is about as soft a fish as I can enjoy...but macks
are much softer IMO.




If you grill them, the flesh firms up.

If I grill them, they fall apart and slip through the grates.

Do you use one of those basket-type devices that close over the fillet
from both sides before grilling?


Like this?
http://www.kitchenkapers.com/265-tf.html

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:21:55 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Been fishing this past week, Herring?

I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead grunts,
catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on an outgoing
tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large spotted trout,
and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.



Gosh, Harry trying to get through.

Sorry to hear about the red tide. It happened when I was living in Tampa back in
1970 or '71. There would be pictures on the news of large fish (tarpon?) jumping
out of the water trying to get oxygen, I suppose. Lot's of dead fish. Not nice.

Sounds like you had a good day, though!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:54:32 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Been fishing this past week, Herring?

I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead
grunts, catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on an
outgoing tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large
spotted trout, and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.


We lucked out yesterday with some spanish mackerals and some bluefish. I
had heard that they were in a specific area, and apparently everyone else
did, too, because there had to be 35-45 boats fast-trolling the same area.
Clarks Spoons and rubber tube baits worked.

I love catching blues on really light tackle.

I like catching blues too. But the macks annoy the hell out of me. They
don't fight very well (except for the larger ones 24 inches), and they cut
off my sabiki rigs right above the weight. They also taste like crap...the
meat is much too soft. About the only thing they're good for is chunking up
and sending to the bottom as jewfish candy. Some guys use them for tarpon
bait too. If I lived in the Keys, or the Eastern seaboard, I'd keep all
that I could get my hands on for marlin bait.


I agree with your mack comments. The meat is mush. It's ugly gray color and has
all the consistency of oatmeal.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:53:46 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

JohnH,
It seems that Harry went out on his annual fishing trip this weekend.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:23:54 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.
Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?
I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just
1 to
2 days befo

Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students.
Period.
Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and
other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be
shot.
So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

"I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be right up there, too!"

That's got to be a classic.

You'd better stick to fanciful motorcycle stories, Mr. "Desmo".


Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the
attacks reminded us that we are at war."—Bush, Washington, D.C., June 8,
2005


Kool. I suppose he caught a cooler full, and then visited every port in the bay.
He has the fastest boat in the bay, you know.

Filtering Harry has made me miss some good stories, I'll bet. Oh well, freedom
isn't free!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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On 12 Sep 2005 12:23:54 -0700, wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened
upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that
gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another
Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt
National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events
just 1 to
2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at
students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and
other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest
in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to be
shot.

So you think that any and all of the above offenses should be
punishable by death? I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be
right up there, too!

"I think narrow mindedness stupidity should be right up there, too!"

That's got to be a classic.

ANd Kevin wonders why he is still the "King"


You'd better stick to fanciful motorcycle stories, Mr. "Desmo".
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:21:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead grunts,
catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on an outgoing
tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large spotted trout,
and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.

I vaguely remember reading of a spot somewhere between Naples and Key
West, where red tide is quite common, as in a yearly occurrence. Do you
run into it much where you fish?

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:21:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


I have. Unfortunately, red tide is in full force down here. Dead
grunts,
catfish, and bait are everywhere. I fished the backwaters on an outgoing
tide (no red tide in the bays), and put a pompano, a large spotted trout,
and a mangrove in the cooler for last night's dinner.

I vaguely remember reading of a spot somewhere between Naples and Key
West, where red tide is quite common, as in a yearly occurrence. Do you
run into it much where you fish?

Every year and a half we seem to get a really bad outbreak. It was really
bad early last summer, but we were spared for most of this year...until now.

Sarasota/Venice area had it bad all spring and summer, and it has finally
moved south.

It is a natural occurence, but there is a lot of research now showing that
the nutrient-rich runoff being pumped down the Caloosahatchee River from
Lake Okechobee is partially to blame for worsening/prolonging the problem.

The Army Corp of Engineers may have contributed to the problem by building a
levee on the south shore of Lake Okeechobee at the request of "Big
Sugar"...so that they could use a bunch of the land to the south of the lake
for agricultural purposes. The problem is that the natural sheet flow of
the water no longer occurs. It is now pumped unnaturally down the rivers
(both East and West), and picks up a bunch of nitrogen-rich runoff from the
sugar cane fields.

South of Naples isn't affected as much by red tide (they get "black water"
from the Shark river runoff). Instead, it's mostly the cities to the south
of the mouth of the Caloosahatchee: Ft. Myers, South Sanibel, Cape Coral,
Estero, Bonita Springs, and Naples.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:59:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The Army Corp of Engineers may have contributed to the problem by building
a levee on the south shore of Lake Okeechobee at the request of "Big
Sugar"...so that they could use a bunch of the land to the south of the
lake for agricultural purposes. The problem is that the natural sheet
flow of the water no longer occurs. It is now pumped unnaturally down the
rivers (both East and West), and picks up a bunch of nitrogen-rich runoff
from the sugar cane fields.

I thought they were plans to curb the river runoffs and increase the
Everglades (sheeting) flow. What happened?

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:59:55 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The Army Corp of Engineers may have contributed to the problem by
building
a levee on the south shore of Lake Okeechobee at the request of "Big
Sugar"...so that they could use a bunch of the land to the south of the
lake for agricultural purposes. The problem is that the natural sheet
flow of the water no longer occurs. It is now pumped unnaturally down
the
rivers (both East and West), and picks up a bunch of nitrogen-rich runoff
from the sugar cane fields.

I thought they were plans to curb the river runoffs and increase the
Everglades (sheeting) flow. What happened?

Big sugar got in the way. Besides, there are thousands of homes to the
south of those levees now. It's impossible to undo the damage.


There *are* efforts and ideas to help though. They're talking about
creating large reservoirs to pump the water to...and then allowing the
reservoirs to drain through the ground and through sheet flow. I can't
imagine what disaster they'll create with that idea...but you can be sure
that if government is involved in altering Mother Nature, they'll be some
fallout eventually (just like in New Orleans).

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:24:10 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



Did you miss the part about "rocks and bottles". In our state, it's
legal.


It is NOT legal in FL or anywhere else in the USA. Did you miss the
part about 265 to 390 feet? Not even the new "hold your ground" statue
in FL (and other states) allows this. If you expect to adopt the
position that it is reasonable, legal, and moral to arm yourself to
the teeth and kill unarmed people in self defense at over 100 yards,
you not only lose all credibility, but are proving the anti-gun nuts
correct about justification of a wild west mentality.

What do you think about the authorities in NO confiscating legally
owned and carried firearms?

I'm opposed to it.

Would you be justified in shooting a
cop who is stealing your firearm?

Nope.

Would you shoot anybody that is stealing you firearm? If so, then it
logically follows, you believe police are above the law, right?


No, I wouldn't shoot the police. I'd listen to their orders, and then I'd
let the courts deal with the legalities later on.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:47:05 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Big sugar got in the way. Besides, there are thousands of homes to the
south of those levees now. It's impossible to undo the damage.

Ah yes, the Fanjul Family, corporate welfare at it's worst. I've
mentioned before, the incestuous relationship between pork and campaign
contributions. This is a prime example. The Fanjuls contribute to *both*
Republican and Democrats, but oh, the payback, $60 million in 1998. No
worries about environmental damages, the sugar industry is subsidized to
the tune of $472 per acre. Sweet deal.

http://southernstudies.org/facingsou...over-cafta.asp

http://www.free-eco.org/articleDisplay.php?id=459

Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:21:43 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O. today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...
Is Bush toting a shotgun?
No, he's too damned stupid to know which end to put up to his shoulder.
And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage would
remember to put the damn plug in.
Are you saying that Bush wouldn't make a mistake??!!!!!

How wide was your 'Desmo'?

Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

Arabian horses everywhere are living in fear, knowing that Michael Brown
is coming back to manage them.

Just a question from a long time lurker. Is there any way to arrest your
fingers, cut off your internet providers, stop the continual drivel, if
yes POINT THE WAY.

Dry,
No, Harry has a sickness and there is not help for him.


"Dry" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On 12 Sep 2005 12:21:43 -0700, wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and
troops on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking
around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon a
nervous
19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.

I understand we have an idiot president walking around N.O.
today...hope
he doesn't encounter a nervous National Guard member...
Is Bush toting a shotgun?
No, he's too damned stupid to know which end to put up to his
shoulder.
And I bet that if Bush travelled around by boat, he or his entourage
would
remember to put the damn plug in.
Are you saying that Bush wouldn't make a mistake??!!!!!

How wide was your 'Desmo'?

Been fishing this past week, Herring?

--
- - -
George W. Bush, our hero!

Arabian horses everywhere are living in fear, knowing that Michael Brown
is coming back to manage them.

Just a question from a long time lurker. Is there any way to arrest your
fingers, cut off your internet providers, stop the continual drivel, if
yes POINT THE WAY.

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:47:05 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Big sugar got in the way. Besides, there are thousands of homes to the
south of those levees now. It's impossible to undo the damage.

Ah yes, the Fanjul Family, corporate welfare at it's worst. I've
mentioned before, the incestuous relationship between pork and campaign
contributions. This is a prime example. The Fanjuls contribute to *both*
Republican and Democrats, but oh, the payback, $60 million in 1998. No
worries about environmental damages, the sugar industry is subsidized to
the tune of $472 per acre. Sweet deal.

http://southernstudies.org/facingsou...over-cafta.asp

http://www.free-eco.org/articleDisplay.php?id=459

One mo
http://www.waterconserve.info/articl...p?linkid=27322

The kids shot were all honor students.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:14:12 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
http://myerskatt.blogspot.com/2005_0...2158281994 41

Walking around New Orleans when there were armed bandits and troops
on
combat patrol with a shotgun and flack jacket - real smart.
Just what that city needed. A shotgun-wielding idiot like Penn
walking around. Imagine what would have occurred if he happened upon
a nervous 19 year old National Guard member while holding that gun.
One could only hope.

Then again, I'm sure the media would have turned it into another Kent
State.

Are you referring to the Kent State slaughter, in which
dumber-than-dirt National Guardsmen opened fire on students?

I think he means the incident that was preceded by these events just 1
to 2 days befo


Nothing happened in the days before that justified shooting at students.
Period.

Day 1:

bonfires lit in the middle of downtown streets

police cars hit with bottles

Store windows were smashed

property was vandalized

shops were looted

Day 2:
several Kent firemen and police officers were pelted with rocks and other
projectiles

protesters were slashing firehoses with pocket knives



If you're dumb enough to physically attack a man holding a rifle (or
protest in the midst of folks dumb enough to do so), then you deserve to
be shot.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:18:54 +0000, NOYB wrote:


One mo
http://www.waterconserve.info/articl...p?linkid=27322

You may not agree with this, but I think corporate welfare may be the
biggest and most damaging threat to this country's democracy. Both
parties are guilty. It is a very incestuous relationship between the
governmental trough and political contributions. We, as citizens, pay
dearly, both financially and environmentally.