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John H May 27th 04 11:23 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
Left Deale at 6:30, headed for #83 with OldFart and Gimp aboard. Added a couple
more rod holders to the rails, and OldFart was kind enough to bring along a
couple rods and a bag full of lures. The six rod spread seemed to work, no big
tangles (couple little ones though). Tried a new lure brought along by OldFart,
can't tell you what it is, 'cause it's secret. Maybe the Old Fart will read this
and be nice, but not me.

Anyway, we caught a 30"er about 15 minutes after dropping the lines in, and then
things slowed way down. However, around 11:30 the buggers started biting again,
and within another hour we landed three more stripers from about 20" to 25".
Left the water at 1:30, after a spectacular day.

Good weather, good company, and good fishing - for what more could one ask!!


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser June 1st 04 08:28 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
John H wrote in message . ..
Left Deale at 6:30, headed for #83 with OldFart and Gimp aboard. Added a couple
more rod holders to the rails, and OldFart was kind enough to bring along a
couple rods and a bag full of lures. The six rod spread seemed to work, no big
tangles (couple little ones though). Tried a new lure brought along by OldFart,
can't tell you what it is, 'cause it's secret. Maybe the Old Fart will read this
and be nice, but not me.

Anyway, we caught a 30"er about 15 minutes after dropping the lines in, and then
things slowed way down. However, around 11:30 the buggers started biting again,
and within another hour we landed three more stripers from about 20" to 25".
Left the water at 1:30, after a spectacular day.

Good weather, good company, and good fishing - for what more could one ask!!


John H

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?

Charles June 2nd 04 02:48 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 


basskisser wrote:

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?


Your understanding and subsequent conclusion of something John H wrote
is a fine example of why you are a stupid idiot and is why people keep
reminding you of the *fact* that you are an idiot. Not only is your
conclusion wrong, you flaunt your stupidity by endlessly repeating the
fiction. The repetition of this fiction also shows the moral bankruptcy
of your character.

The only people who take *anything* you say seriously are either idiots
themselves, or are those who, because they agree with your political
ideology, lack the courage to confront you and are therefore compelled
to humor your stupidity.

-- Charlie

basskisser June 2nd 04 01:06 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
Charles wrote in message ...
basskisser wrote:

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?


Your understanding and subsequent conclusion of something John H wrote
is a fine example of why you are a stupid idiot and is why people keep
reminding you of the *fact* that you are an idiot. Not only is your
conclusion wrong, you flaunt your stupidity by endlessly repeating the
fiction. The repetition of this fiction also shows the moral bankruptcy
of your character.

The only people who take *anything* you say seriously are either idiots
themselves, or are those who, because they agree with your political
ideology, lack the courage to confront you and are therefore compelled
to humor your stupidity.

-- Charlie


Typical. That shows just what you THINK you know, is pure drivel.
Every day, a lot of people take what I say very seriously. Yesterday,
I did the structural design for roof components for a 940,000 square
foot distribution center. It is a design build project, and the roof
framing and details package I sent out will be used for pricing. Do
you think that those people take me seriously?

Now, about John. He specifically stated that he HOPED to see pictures
of "children in the biblical sense". Did he not?
He knows what he did. That is why he tried to retaliate with stupid
childish crap from the internet. If he didn't do anything, he surely
wouldn't have stooped THAT low.

Charles June 2nd 04 01:44 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 


basskisser wrote:

Charles wrote in message ...
basskisser wrote:

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?


Your understanding and subsequent conclusion of something John H wrote
is a fine example of why you are a stupid idiot and is why people keep
reminding you of the *fact* that you are an idiot. Not only is your
conclusion wrong, you flaunt your stupidity by endlessly repeating the
fiction. The repetition of this fiction also shows the moral bankruptcy
of your character.

The only people who take *anything* you say seriously are either idiots
themselves, or are those who, because they agree with your political
ideology, lack the courage to confront you and are therefore compelled
to humor your stupidity.

-- Charlie


Typical. That shows just what you THINK you know, is pure drivel.
Every day, a lot of people take what I say very seriously.


No they don't. They are just humoring you.

Yesterday,
I did the structural design for roof components for a 940,000 square
foot distribution center. It is a design build project, and the roof
framing and details package I sent out will be used for pricing. Do
you think that those people take me seriously?


No.

You're probably an apprentice/intern at best, and your designs are
reviewed, corrected, and revised by experienced professionals. They
surely have no clue that you make specious charges against others on
usenet of viewing child pornography.


Now, about John. He specifically stated that he HOPED to see pictures
of "children in the biblical sense". Did he not?


No. You're an idiot, and a stupid one at that. You have arrived at an
illogical conclusion which, in your mind which is fraught with random
synapses, is a logical conclusion.

-- Charlie

P.Fritz June 2nd 04 02:50 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"Charles" wrote in message
...


basskisser wrote:

Charles wrote in message

...
basskisser wrote:

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?

Your understanding and subsequent conclusion of something John H wrote
is a fine example of why you are a stupid idiot and is why people keep
reminding you of the *fact* that you are an idiot. Not only is your
conclusion wrong, you flaunt your stupidity by endlessly repeating the
fiction. The repetition of this fiction also shows the moral

bankruptcy
of your character.

The only people who take *anything* you say seriously are either

idiots
themselves, or are those who, because they agree with your political
ideology, lack the courage to confront you and are therefore compelled
to humor your stupidity.

-- Charlie


Typical. That shows just what you THINK you know, is pure drivel.
Every day, a lot of people take what I say very seriously.


No they don't. They are just humoring you.

Yesterday,
I did the structural design for roof components for a 940,000 square
foot distribution center. It is a design build project, and the roof
framing and details package I sent out will be used for pricing. Do
you think that those people take me seriously?


No.

You're probably an apprentice/intern at best, and your designs are
reviewed, corrected, and revised by experienced professionals. They
surely have no clue that you make specious charges against others on
usenet of viewing child pornography.


Cripes, his boosting about designing 'roof components' as if he is important
is like someone 'designing' a hubcap for a car. The fabricators end up
doing most of the engineering work anyway.
A 940,000 s.f. warehouse.....big whoop..........basic repetitive work that
is done by the peons is most firms. Design/build = industry whores......is
it any wonder that someone like asslicker is in their employ?



Now, about John. He specifically stated that he HOPED to see pictures
of "children in the biblical sense". Did he not?


No. You're an idiot, and a stupid one at that. You have arrived at an
illogical conclusion which, in your mind which is fraught with random
synapses, is a logical conclusion.

-- Charlie




basskisser June 2nd 04 06:44 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"P.Fritz" wrote in message
Typical. That shows just what you THINK you know, is pure drivel.
Every day, a lot of people take what I say very seriously.


No they don't. They are just humoring you.

Yesterday,
I did the structural design for roof components for a 940,000 square
foot distribution center. It is a design build project, and the roof
framing and details package I sent out will be used for pricing. Do
you think that those people take me seriously?


No.


Hmm, that's odd. Wonder why they pay me well for my services, and I'm
NEVER without work?

Cripes, his boosting about designing 'roof components' as if he is important
is like someone 'designing' a hubcap for a car. The fabricators end up
doing most of the engineering work anyway.
A 940,000 s.f. warehouse.....big whoop..........basic repetitive work that
is done by the peons is most firms. Design/build = industry whores......is
it any wonder that someone like asslicker is in their employ?


You're pretty stupid, aren't you? Let's see, yesterday's example. 940k
sq. ft., 400' of 30 ton crane, cols, footings, crane beam, crane rail.
Same for 500' of 50 ton crane. Repetitive peon work? You obviously
don't know crap about it. Dynamic crane loads, starting with the deck
weld, down to the embedment length of the crane col. anchor bolts.
It's funny, usually people like steel detailers, and other REAL peons
in the industry, don't even begin to understand what an engineer
does!!!

I'm sorry that you know so little about the subject, but alas, I'm not
here to teach fools.

John H June 2nd 04 09:37 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
On 2 Jun 2004 05:06:04 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Charles wrote in message ...
basskisser wrote:

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?


Your understanding and subsequent conclusion of something John H wrote
is a fine example of why you are a stupid idiot and is why people keep
reminding you of the *fact* that you are an idiot. Not only is your
conclusion wrong, you flaunt your stupidity by endlessly repeating the
fiction. The repetition of this fiction also shows the moral bankruptcy
of your character.

The only people who take *anything* you say seriously are either idiots
themselves, or are those who, because they agree with your political
ideology, lack the courage to confront you and are therefore compelled
to humor your stupidity.

-- Charlie


Typical. That shows just what you THINK you know, is pure drivel.
Every day, a lot of people take what I say very seriously. Yesterday,
I did the structural design for roof components for a 940,000 square
foot distribution center. It is a design build project, and the roof
framing and details package I sent out will be used for pricing. Do
you think that those people take me seriously?

Now, about John. He specifically stated that he HOPED to see pictures
of "children in the biblical sense". Did he not?
He knows what he did. That is why he tried to retaliate with stupid
childish crap from the internet. If he didn't do anything, he surely
wouldn't have stooped THAT low.


B'asskisser, my comment regarding photos did not refer to a specific type of
photo, nor was it addressed to you. As to the subject matter of the pictures,
that is none of your business. For sure I don't want pictures of whatever you do
with your karate students.

Now, you may continue along these lines, and reinforce the impression that many
have (of your stupidity), or you may stop. That is totally up to you.

As to your question about people taking you seriously, after the braggadocio, I
would say, "No." Of course, the question wasn't directed at me.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser June 3rd 04 12:25 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 2 Jun 2004 05:06:04 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Charles wrote in message ...
basskisser wrote:

Take any pictures of "children in the biblical sense" with you? Was
any of them your students?

Your understanding and subsequent conclusion of something John H wrote
is a fine example of why you are a stupid idiot and is why people keep
reminding you of the *fact* that you are an idiot. Not only is your
conclusion wrong, you flaunt your stupidity by endlessly repeating the
fiction. The repetition of this fiction also shows the moral bankruptcy
of your character.

The only people who take *anything* you say seriously are either idiots
themselves, or are those who, because they agree with your political
ideology, lack the courage to confront you and are therefore compelled
to humor your stupidity.

-- Charlie


Typical. That shows just what you THINK you know, is pure drivel.
Every day, a lot of people take what I say very seriously. Yesterday,
I did the structural design for roof components for a 940,000 square
foot distribution center. It is a design build project, and the roof
framing and details package I sent out will be used for pricing. Do
you think that those people take me seriously?

Now, about John. He specifically stated that he HOPED to see pictures
of "children in the biblical sense". Did he not?
He knows what he did. That is why he tried to retaliate with stupid
childish crap from the internet. If he didn't do anything, he surely
wouldn't have stooped THAT low.


B'asskisser, my comment regarding photos did not refer to a specific type of
photo, nor was it addressed to you. As to the subject matter of the pictures,
that is none of your business. For sure I don't want pictures of whatever you do
with your karate students.

Now, you may continue along these lines, and reinforce the impression that many
have (of your stupidity), or you may stop. That is totally up to you.

As to your question about people taking you seriously, after the braggadocio, I
would say, "No." Of course, the question wasn't directed at me.

John H

Oh, John...quit...you DID SPECIFICALLY ask for pictures, correct? You
asked, in DIRECT response to another asshole saying that I knew
children "in the biblical sense", did you not? Please, yes or no to
those two questions are all that are needed.
Now, do you think that the school board that you babysit at would
approve of that? Yes or no?

John Smith June 3rd 04 03:54 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
Oh, John...quit...you DID SPECIFICALLY ask for pictures, correct? You
asked, in DIRECT response to another asshole saying that I knew
children "in the biblical sense", did you not? Please, yes or no to
those two questions are all that are needed.
Now, do you think that the school board that you babysit at would
approve of that? Yes or no?


Bass, if you sent that thread to any school and/or school board they would
understand exactly what John was saying. They would laugh at you the same
as everyone who works with you laughs at you.

They would say, BassK, you need to learn how to read and comprehend.

Tell us about whiskey and Gore-Tex thread and your inability to comprehend.




basskisser June 3rd 04 06:57 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"John Smith" wrote in message news:TYGvc.12195$sI.3649@attbi_s52...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
Oh, John...quit...you DID SPECIFICALLY ask for pictures, correct? You
asked, in DIRECT response to another asshole saying that I knew
children "in the biblical sense", did you not? Please, yes or no to
those two questions are all that are needed.
Now, do you think that the school board that you babysit at would
approve of that? Yes or no?


Bass, if you sent that thread to any school and/or school board they would
understand exactly what John was saying. They would laugh at you the same
as everyone who works with you laughs at you.

They would say, BassK, you need to learn how to read and comprehend.


Really? Let's give it a try! Talk to your Siamese Twin John H, and
find out where to send the information to, and we'll see!!

Tell us about whiskey and Gore-Tex thread and your inability to comprehend.


Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.

John Smith June 3rd 04 07:05 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.



I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?





basskisser June 4th 04 01:14 PM

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"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.



I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


What boats are those awning on, anyway?

Calif Bill June 4th 04 05:45 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.



I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end

of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


What boats are those awning on, anyway?


A big houseboat has awnings. And the Gore-tex people make all kinds of
products. Threads, gaskets, seals, besides the coatings for material.



John Smith June 4th 04 07:33 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
Awnings are also part of most cruisers and yachts.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help

you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a

boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the

end
of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


What boats are those awning on, anyway?


A big houseboat has awnings. And the Gore-tex people make all kinds of
products. Threads, gaskets, seals, besides the coatings for material.





basskisser June 7th 04 02:59 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end

of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


What boats are those awning on, anyway?


A big houseboat has awnings. And the Gore-tex people make all kinds of
products. Threads, gaskets, seals, besides the coatings for material.


I want, and have been asking to see, from Gore-Tex's OWN WEBSITE, a
reference to "Gore-Tex thread". Have any?

basskisser June 7th 04 03:01 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.



I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

basskisser June 7th 04 03:04 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"John Smith" wrote in message news:TYGvc.12195$sI.3649@attbi_s52...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
Oh, John...quit...you DID SPECIFICALLY ask for pictures, correct? You
asked, in DIRECT response to another asshole saying that I knew
children "in the biblical sense", did you not? Please, yes or no to
those two questions are all that are needed.
Now, do you think that the school board that you babysit at would
approve of that? Yes or no?


Bass, if you sent that thread to any school and/or school board they would
understand exactly what John was saying. They would laugh at you the same
as everyone who works with you laughs at you.

They would say, BassK, you need to learn how to read and comprehend.


Really? So, let me get this straight. If you told someone about a new
boat you had, and they said "I hope you have pictures to post", would
you think that they DIDN'T want pictures posted, or DID want pictures
posted? Simple answer is all that is required.

Steven Shelikoff June 8th 04 02:05 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.



I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

John H June 8th 04 10:18 PM

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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:05:46 GMT, (Steven Shelikoff) wrote:

On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve


You probably won't hear much from him on this topic anymore. He sounded pretty
embarrassed and disheveled with his last post.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser June 9th 04 12:59 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:05:46 GMT, (Steven Shelikoff) wrote:

On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve


You probably won't hear much from him on this topic anymore. He sounded pretty
embarrassed and disheveled with his last post.

John H

Please show me anywhere on Gore-tex's website where they say ANYTHING about
"Gore-Tex thread", okay, child pornographer?

basskisser June 9th 04 01:01 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?


You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve


Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????

Steven Shelikoff June 9th 04 01:58 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
On 9 Jun 2004 05:01:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.


Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

And yes, Gore-Tex Suture is thread. Many people use the term
interchangably and there's nothing wrong with that. Even Gore-Tex uses
the term interchangably on their own website when they mention the
"needle-to-thread diameter ratio" when talking about their suture. If
they wished to differentiate their produce from thread in any way, they
would have said "needle-to-suture diameter ratio." But they didn't,
they specifically called their Gore-Tex product both "thread" and
"suture" in the same paragraph.

Steve

P.S., it doesn't really matter what NYOB meant. The fact is that you
are wrong ... Gore-Tex does make thread and, as you requested, it's
shown on their website.

NOYB June 9th 04 01:58 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help

you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a

boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the

end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve


Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced Gore-Tex thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing "Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine enclosure "
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing & hardware, UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If so, for
what purposes?"
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread by
Gore-Tex"
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find "Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.




John Smith June 9th 04 03:30 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
I think this thread would qualify as proof that Basskisser has FAS.


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help

you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a

boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the

end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.


I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve


Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????




NOYB June 9th 04 05:40 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 05:01:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help

you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a

boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the

end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go

right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.


Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

And yes, Gore-Tex Suture is thread. Many people use the term
interchangably and there's nothing wrong with that. Even Gore-Tex uses
the term interchangably on their own website when they mention the
"needle-to-thread diameter ratio" when talking about their suture. If
they wished to differentiate their produce from thread in any way, they
would have said "needle-to-suture diameter ratio." But they didn't,
they specifically called their Gore-Tex product both "thread" and
"suture" in the same paragraph.

Steve

P.S., it doesn't really matter what NYOB meant. The fact is that you
are wrong ... Gore-Tex does make thread and, as you requested, it's
shown on their website.


Here's what likely happened, Steve:
When Gore-Tex introduced its medical thread/suture, there was confusion with
the "Gore-Tex thread" that was used for marine applications. Gore-Tex
apparently changed name of the marine-grade "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" to
differentiate between the two products.

When I said "Gore-tex" thread, I was speaking in terms of the product that
Chaparral uses to stitch the fabric of its seat cushions. I vaguely
remembered reading an article back in 2001 that explained how some
manufacturers employ better materials (such as Gore-Tex thread) on every
item on the boat...thus making them "better" boats. I was not aware that
Gore-tex changed the name of the thread to "Tenara"...and it seems that the
author of the October, 2001 article, and the editor of Boating magazine were
not aware either.

Here's the link:
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152



John H June 9th 04 05:52 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:40:35 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 05:01:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help

you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a

boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the

end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go

right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

And yes, Gore-Tex Suture is thread. Many people use the term
interchangably and there's nothing wrong with that. Even Gore-Tex uses
the term interchangably on their own website when they mention the
"needle-to-thread diameter ratio" when talking about their suture. If
they wished to differentiate their produce from thread in any way, they
would have said "needle-to-suture diameter ratio." But they didn't,
they specifically called their Gore-Tex product both "thread" and
"suture" in the same paragraph.

Steve

P.S., it doesn't really matter what NYOB meant. The fact is that you
are wrong ... Gore-Tex does make thread and, as you requested, it's
shown on their website.


Here's what likely happened, Steve:
When Gore-Tex introduced its medical thread/suture, there was confusion with
the "Gore-Tex thread" that was used for marine applications. Gore-Tex
apparently changed name of the marine-grade "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" to
differentiate between the two products.

When I said "Gore-tex" thread, I was speaking in terms of the product that
Chaparral uses to stitch the fabric of its seat cushions. I vaguely
remembered reading an article back in 2001 that explained how some
manufacturers employ better materials (such as Gore-Tex thread) on every
item on the boat...thus making them "better" boats. I was not aware that
Gore-tex changed the name of the thread to "Tenara"...and it seems that the
author of the October, 2001 article, and the editor of Boating magazine were
not aware either.

Here's the link:
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


There is absolutely no reason to justify any claim you've made that b'asskisser
is refuting. If he's refuting it, then it's most likely true. His debating
abilities fall just below the 8th grade level. Of course, he'll probably ask for
proof, but unless he can find a reputable source which verifies that he isn't a
dip****, I'll stick with my opinion.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser June 9th 04 08:10 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"John Smith" wrote in message news:AaFxc.8181$0y.1673@attbi_s03...
I think this thread would qualify as proof that Basskisser has FAS.


Perhaps something is wrong with you, I'll type it slowly, just for
you....
Please show anywhere on Gore-Tex's website that mentions Gore-Tex
thread. Can you? Yes or no.
Now try to keep up here, this gets intense for your narrow mind. The
original post about Gore-Tex thread was from NOYB, and about using it
in boat cushions. Understand? Okay then, what to hell would make
someone even as stupid as YOU think that there are companies using
Gore-Tex Sutures to do that?????

basskisser June 9th 04 08:12 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me help

you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on a

boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before the

end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated "Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture *is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve


Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced Gore-Tex thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing "Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine enclosure "
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing & hardware, UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If so, for
what purposes?"
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread by
Gore-Tex"
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find "Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.


One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?

John Smith June 9th 04 08:53 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
asskisser,
NOYB showed you numerous web sites referring to Gore-Tex thread. The fact
you don't believe them shows that you are inflicted with a severe case of
OCD probably aggravated by your FAS. Do you now want to meet up with some
more people and beat them up because they know you are one sick puppy.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"John Smith" wrote in message

news:AaFxc.8181$0y.1673@attbi_s03...
I think this thread would qualify as proof that Basskisser has FAS.


Perhaps something is wrong with you, I'll type it slowly, just for
you....
Please show anywhere on Gore-Tex's website that mentions Gore-Tex
thread. Can you? Yes or no.
Now try to keep up here, this gets intense for your narrow mind. The
original post about Gore-Tex thread was from NOYB, and about using it
in boat cushions. Understand? Okay then, what to hell would make
someone even as stupid as YOU think that there are companies using
Gore-Tex Sutures to do that?????




Steven Shelikoff June 10th 04 12:24 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?


Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?

Steve

NOYB June 10th 04 03:35 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see

there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me

help
you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on

a
boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before

the
end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a

reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use

the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated

"Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go

right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture

*is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced Gore-Tex

thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it

listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing

"Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine enclosure

"
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing & hardware,

UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a

thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If so,

for
what purposes?"

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread by
Gore-Tex"

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find "Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.


One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread".


One more time for the ****ing idiot hillbilly from Snellville:
Gore-Tex changed the name of "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" sometime in the
late 80's or early 90's. That's why the name "Gore-Tex thread" no longer
shows up on the W.L Gore and Associates' website.

Sheesh! Are you stoned when you reply to my posts?



NOYB June 10th 04 03:40 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?


Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?



I can hear it now:

basskisser: "Yes, but do actually call it *Gore-Tex thread*"?

Rep from Gore-Tex: "Well, we used to...but now we call it Tenara"

basskisser: "So it's not called Gore-Tex thread?"

Rep from Gore-Tex: "No. Not anymore"

basskisser: "Ha! I knew it." (and he runs back to his keyboard to post the
results of his conversation)

basskisser on computer: "I called Gore-Tex and asked them if they have
something called Gore-Tex thread, and they said no".


He'll just never get it, Steve. Why bother...








basskisser June 10th 04 03:03 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?


Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?



I can hear it now:

basskisser: "Yes, but do actually call it *Gore-Tex thread*"?

Rep from Gore-Tex: "Well, we used to...but now we call it Tenara"

basskisser: "So it's not called Gore-Tex thread?"

Rep from Gore-Tex: "No. Not anymore"

basskisser: "Ha! I knew it." (and he runs back to his keyboard to post the
results of his conversation)

basskisser on computer: "I called Gore-Tex and asked them if they have
something called Gore-Tex thread, and they said no".


He'll just never get it, Steve. Why bother...


So in YOUR dimwit eyes, you can call any product in the world by
anything you choose, huh? How ****ing stupid can you be? Using your
stupid thinking, the old Ford Mustang I've got in the garage, could be
called a Jaguar, because they are made by Ford.....simply amazing way
of thinking you have there, and foolish.

basskisser June 10th 04 03:17 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see
there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me

help
you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on

a
boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before

the
end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a

reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use

the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated

"Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go

right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture

*is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????

Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced Gore-Tex

thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it

listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing

"Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine enclosure

"
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing & hardware,

UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a

thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If so,

for
what purposes?"

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread by
Gore-Tex"

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find "Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.


One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread".


One more time for the ****ing idiot hillbilly from Snellville:
Gore-Tex changed the name of "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" sometime in the
late 80's or early 90's. That's why the name "Gore-Tex thread" no longer
shows up on the W.L Gore and Associates' website.

Sheesh! Are you stoned when you reply to my posts?


I'm not from Snellville. I'm not a hillbilly. Can you not get ANYTHING
right??
So, using your dimwit way of thinking, I suppose that a piece of beef
bologna is a piece of corn, right? I mean, it used to be, until an
animal converted it to muscle, then was killed, processed, and turned
into bologna. Man, you are dumb.

Seriously, do you honestly think that, because there USED to be a
product, that there still is, even when the company that MAKES the
product doesn't have it anymore???

NOYB June 10th 04 04:30 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the

Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?

Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded

polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically

describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?



I can hear it now:

basskisser: "Yes, but do actually call it *Gore-Tex thread*"?

Rep from Gore-Tex: "Well, we used to...but now we call it Tenara"

basskisser: "So it's not called Gore-Tex thread?"

Rep from Gore-Tex: "No. Not anymore"

basskisser: "Ha! I knew it." (and he runs back to his keyboard to post

the
results of his conversation)

basskisser on computer: "I called Gore-Tex and asked them if they have
something called Gore-Tex thread, and they said no".


He'll just never get it, Steve. Why bother...


So in YOUR dimwit eyes, you can call any product in the world by
anything you choose, huh? How ****ing stupid can you be? Using your
stupid thinking, the old Ford Mustang I've got in the garage, could be
called a Jaguar, because they are made by Ford.....simply amazing way
of thinking you have there, and foolish.


Your lack of logic and ability to relate "A" with "B" in an argument never
ceases to astound me.

Your automobile, with the name "Ford Mustang" on it, can be called a Ford
Motor Company automobile...but not a Jaguar. I'll leave it to you to figure
out *why*...and how this relates to "Gore-Tex thread".






NOYB June 10th 04 04:36 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser)

wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see
there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me

some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me

help
you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread

on
a
boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a

full
lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail

before
the
end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a

reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people

use
the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated

"Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if

you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread,

go
right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture

*is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated

that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat

cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????

Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced

Gore-Tex
thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it

listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing

"Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine

enclosure
"
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing &

hardware,
UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a

thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If

so,
for
what purposes?"


http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread

by
Gore-Tex"


http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a

lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find

"Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread".


One more time for the ****ing idiot hillbilly from Snellville:
Gore-Tex changed the name of "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" sometime in

the
late 80's or early 90's. That's why the name "Gore-Tex thread" no

longer
shows up on the W.L Gore and Associates' website.

Sheesh! Are you stoned when you reply to my posts?


I'm not from Snellville. I'm not a hillbilly. Can you not get ANYTHING
right??
So, using your dimwit way of thinking, I suppose that a piece of beef
bologna is a piece of corn, right?


Nope. Try again. Here's a hint: Gore-tex thread is to Tenara, as Oscar
Meyer lunch meat is to beef bologna.

Did you flunk analogies in school? How'd you ever get into college if you
couldn't do the word association portion of the SAT!


I mean, it used to be, until an
animal converted it to muscle, then was killed, processed, and turned
into bologna. Man, you are dumb.

Seriously, do you honestly think that, because there USED to be a
product, that there still is, even when the company that MAKES the
product doesn't have it anymore???


They still have it...and it's now called Tenara.




John H June 10th 04 05:17 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 


http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/D0242250.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H June 10th 04 05:17 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/D0242250.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****
John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause June 10th 04 05:28 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:

http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/D0242250.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****

John H



Hey! My D70 just arrived. Seems to be well-made, though lighter than my
D100...bot more than good enough. The strap sucks, though...too narrow.

H.


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