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Steven Shelikoff June 10th 04 12:24 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?


Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?

Steve

NOYB June 10th 04 03:35 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see

there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me

help
you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on

a
boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before

the
end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a

reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use

the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated

"Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go

right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture

*is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????


Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced Gore-Tex

thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it

listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing

"Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine enclosure

"
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing & hardware,

UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a

thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If so,

for
what purposes?"

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread by
Gore-Tex"

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find "Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.


One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread".


One more time for the ****ing idiot hillbilly from Snellville:
Gore-Tex changed the name of "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" sometime in the
late 80's or early 90's. That's why the name "Gore-Tex thread" no longer
shows up on the W.L Gore and Associates' website.

Sheesh! Are you stoned when you reply to my posts?



NOYB June 10th 04 03:40 AM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?


Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?



I can hear it now:

basskisser: "Yes, but do actually call it *Gore-Tex thread*"?

Rep from Gore-Tex: "Well, we used to...but now we call it Tenara"

basskisser: "So it's not called Gore-Tex thread?"

Rep from Gore-Tex: "No. Not anymore"

basskisser: "Ha! I knew it." (and he runs back to his keyboard to post the
results of his conversation)

basskisser on computer: "I called Gore-Tex and asked them if they have
something called Gore-Tex thread, and they said no".


He'll just never get it, Steve. Why bother...








basskisser June 10th 04 03:03 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?


Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?



I can hear it now:

basskisser: "Yes, but do actually call it *Gore-Tex thread*"?

Rep from Gore-Tex: "Well, we used to...but now we call it Tenara"

basskisser: "So it's not called Gore-Tex thread?"

Rep from Gore-Tex: "No. Not anymore"

basskisser: "Ha! I knew it." (and he runs back to his keyboard to post the
results of his conversation)

basskisser on computer: "I called Gore-Tex and asked them if they have
something called Gore-Tex thread, and they said no".


He'll just never get it, Steve. Why bother...


So in YOUR dimwit eyes, you can call any product in the world by
anything you choose, huh? How ****ing stupid can you be? Using your
stupid thinking, the old Ford Mustang I've got in the garage, could be
called a Jaguar, because they are made by Ford.....simply amazing way
of thinking you have there, and foolish.

basskisser June 10th 04 03:17 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see
there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me

help
you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread on

a
boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a full

lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail before

the
end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a

reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people use

the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated

"Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread, go

right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture

*is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????

Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced Gore-Tex

thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it

listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing

"Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine enclosure

"
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing & hardware,

UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a

thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If so,

for
what purposes?"

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread by
Gore-Tex"

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find "Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.


One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread".


One more time for the ****ing idiot hillbilly from Snellville:
Gore-Tex changed the name of "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" sometime in the
late 80's or early 90's. That's why the name "Gore-Tex thread" no longer
shows up on the W.L Gore and Associates' website.

Sheesh! Are you stoned when you reply to my posts?


I'm not from Snellville. I'm not a hillbilly. Can you not get ANYTHING
right??
So, using your dimwit way of thinking, I suppose that a piece of beef
bologna is a piece of corn, right? I mean, it used to be, until an
animal converted it to muscle, then was killed, processed, and turned
into bologna. Man, you are dumb.

Seriously, do you honestly think that, because there USED to be a
product, that there still is, even when the company that MAKES the
product doesn't have it anymore???

NOYB June 10th 04 04:30 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jun 2004 12:12:32 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the

Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread". Can you do
that? Do you really suppose they use Gore-Tex Suture for boat
cushions?

Yes, because it's the same material under a different name, one called
thread for sewing of textiles and one called suture for medical use.
Both threads are spun from yarn made of expanded

polytetrafluoroethylene
(ePTFE)

Here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Thread:

http://www.gore.com/creative/tenara.html

and here is the official Gore products website describing Gore Sutu

http://www.goremedical.com/English/P...ture/Index.htm

Both of them are official Gore sites, both of them specifically

describe
their product as thread. What is it that you still do not understand?
If you don't believe the websites, why don't you call Gore products on
the phone and ask them if they make thread?



I can hear it now:

basskisser: "Yes, but do actually call it *Gore-Tex thread*"?

Rep from Gore-Tex: "Well, we used to...but now we call it Tenara"

basskisser: "So it's not called Gore-Tex thread?"

Rep from Gore-Tex: "No. Not anymore"

basskisser: "Ha! I knew it." (and he runs back to his keyboard to post

the
results of his conversation)

basskisser on computer: "I called Gore-Tex and asked them if they have
something called Gore-Tex thread, and they said no".


He'll just never get it, Steve. Why bother...


So in YOUR dimwit eyes, you can call any product in the world by
anything you choose, huh? How ****ing stupid can you be? Using your
stupid thinking, the old Ford Mustang I've got in the garage, could be
called a Jaguar, because they are made by Ford.....simply amazing way
of thinking you have there, and foolish.


Your lack of logic and ability to relate "A" with "B" in an argument never
ceases to astound me.

Your automobile, with the name "Ford Mustang" on it, can be called a Ford
Motor Company automobile...but not a Jaguar. I'll leave it to you to figure
out *why*...and how this relates to "Gore-Tex thread".






NOYB June 10th 04 04:36 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"NOYB" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Jun 2004 07:01:58 -0700,
(basskisser)

wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message

news:VLJvc.6569$uY.186@attbi_s53...
"basskisser" wrote in message
Easy, go here, simpleton
http://www.gore-tex.com You'll see
there
is
NO Gore-Tex thread. Now, if you believe there is, show me

some.


I don't know why you can't find the info yourself, but let me

help
you.

Here is a link showing the benefits of Gore-Tex sewing thread

on
a
boat
cover or awning.

from: http://www.americana.com/fabricawnings/goretex.htm

"We know that GORE-TEX® sewing thread never fails due to
exposure to the environment. We back up that claim with a

full
lifetime
warranty. If the seams on your boat cover or awning fail

before
the
end of
the usual life of the fabric, we'll pay for the repair work."

Bass, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are wrong. I want to see from GORE-TEX'S OWN WEBSITE a

reference
to "Gore-Tex thread". Now, I understand that a lot of people

use
the
words Gore-Tex
generically. I care not about that. NOYB SPECIFICALLY stated

"Gore-Tex
thread". The website for Gore-Tex Inc. states no such thing.

I gave that to you. Only they call it Gore-Tex Suture. Now, if

you
want to argue the suture means something different than thread,

go
right
ahead. But you'll lose that also since in this case, the suture

*is*
thread used to surgically close wounds or join tissues.

Steve

Please show where, on Gore-Tex's website, they say anything about
"Gore-Tex thread". You are losing track of the post. NOYB stated

that
some boat manuf. use "Gore-Tex thread" for stitching seat

cushions,
etc. Now, do you REALLY think that he meant Gore-Tex sutures????

Are you that stupid!?!? W.L. Gore and Associates introduced

Gore-Tex
thread
in the mid 80's.
At that time, they apparently called it Gore-Tex thread.

They've since changed the name to "Tenara"...so you will not find it

listed
as "Gore-Tex thread"
on their website. However, here are a number of links discussing

"Gore-Tex
thread", several of
which mention a change in the name to Tenara:

"At about the same time, GORE-TEX thread (now known as TENARA) was
introduced in a strength compatible for the rigors of a marine

enclosure
"
http://www.ez2cy.com/other_enclosures/e_printable.html

"Offering the best in materials, 316 stainless steel tubing &

hardware,
UV
impervious Tenara (formerly Gore Tex) thread"
http://coastlinememories.com/gemini.canvas.ad.html

" The seat cushions are made from heavy, comfortable 40-ounce vinyl,
stitched with weatherproof Gore-Tex thread"
http://www.boatingmag.com/article.as...article_id=152


"Doyle Caribbean was the first and is still the only manufacturer to
exclusively use Gore-TexT thread for all new canvas and repairs - a

thread
that is guaranteed for life."
http://www.doylesails.com/lofts-na-tortola.htm

FINISHING SUPPLIES.
a.. Acrylic Binding Tape, 3/4"& 1"
b.. Vinyl Binding Tape, 3/4"
c.. Cord & Ropes
d.. Bobbins
e.. Double Sided Seaming Tape
f.. VELCRO/ Hook and Loop
g.. 3M Spray Adhesives
h.. Thread: Anti-Wick and UVR
i.. GORE-TEX Thread
http://www.mobilecanvas.com/bainbridge.html


"Has anyone been using Gore-tex thread in textile conservation? If

so,
for
what purposes?"


http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byfor.../msg00000.html


"5 year warranty on structural seams sewn with Gore-Tex thread"
and
"Seams are tough enough to last a lifetime sewn with Tenara thread

by
Gore-Tex"


http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hread%22&hl=en


"Structural seams are sewn with Gore-Tex thread, which has a

lifetime
warranty."
http://www.davebang.com/shelter.htm


There are at least 72 instances on google where you can find

"Gore-Tex
thread"...and most
of them deal with its use in marine applications.

One more time for the class dolt. Please show anywhere on the Gore-Tex
website where there is any mention of "Gore-Tex thread".


One more time for the ****ing idiot hillbilly from Snellville:
Gore-Tex changed the name of "Gore-Tex thread" to "Tenara" sometime in

the
late 80's or early 90's. That's why the name "Gore-Tex thread" no

longer
shows up on the W.L Gore and Associates' website.

Sheesh! Are you stoned when you reply to my posts?


I'm not from Snellville. I'm not a hillbilly. Can you not get ANYTHING
right??
So, using your dimwit way of thinking, I suppose that a piece of beef
bologna is a piece of corn, right?


Nope. Try again. Here's a hint: Gore-tex thread is to Tenara, as Oscar
Meyer lunch meat is to beef bologna.

Did you flunk analogies in school? How'd you ever get into college if you
couldn't do the word association portion of the SAT!


I mean, it used to be, until an
animal converted it to muscle, then was killed, processed, and turned
into bologna. Man, you are dumb.

Seriously, do you honestly think that, because there USED to be a
product, that there still is, even when the company that MAKES the
product doesn't have it anymore???


They still have it...and it's now called Tenara.




John H June 10th 04 05:17 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 


http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/D0242250.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H June 10th 04 05:17 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 

http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/D0242250.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****
John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause June 10th 04 05:28 PM

Another Gorgeous Bay Day!
 
John H wrote:

http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/D0242250.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dip****

John H



Hey! My D70 just arrived. Seems to be well-made, though lighter than my
D100...bot more than good enough. The strap sucks, though...too narrow.

H.


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