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Bert Robbins August 25th 05 12:10 AM


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:
I never implied that Harry said anything about Chavez. Harry does
seem
to be an apologist for Castro. Basically, his argument is that Castro
is better than Batista. Is that it Harry, pretty lame. My dog could
rule Cuba better than Batista. Of course this is a false argument
presented as if it was a choice between Batista and Castro. Why not
have a Cuba with a modern economy and freedom? Castro is nothing more
than a Stalinist dinosaur. He's a Caribbean Kim Jong Il.
My dog could also run the Venezulean economy better than it was run
before Chavez but htis does not mean Chavez is good.


Castro has done more to improve the lives of ordinary people in Cuba

than
Batista, the dictator the US supported, ever did or would do.


Then why the huge efflux of Cuban refuges under Castro?


With that post, harry is in serious contention for the title of "King of
the
NG idiots"


He has the crown for NG Idiot and NG Asshole.



Bert Robbins August 25th 05 12:12 AM


"Chris" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Chris" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

Clinton officials spent 7 years in office trying to make it appear as

if
terrorist attacks within our borders were not state-sponsored.

If this is the case, why has it taken so long to figure it out, and
release
the information?



Because Goss just took the reigns a couple of months ago.


And who has been the President up until, as well as beyond that time?


Have you ever worked in a beauracracy? I didn't think so!



PocoLoco August 25th 05 01:26 AM

You should try hard to keep Harry over there, wherever that is!


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:52:25 -0500, Hoodoo wrote:

From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Chavez Offers Cheap Gas to Poor Americans
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:45:25 -0400
Message-ID:

Harry Krause wrote:

Bush is an utter, complete failure, a man entirely out of touch with
reality. He's flushing this country down the toilet.


And you're probably sharing the same methamphetamine as your
butt-buddy, john weasely gilmer III, because you're always
talking out your ass... although with you two, it's quite
difficult to tell which end is up.

Here's only a partial list of aliases used by herr e. kkkrause's
identical twin brother:

--------------------------

With the evidence of your dozens of aliases included below, Juan
Valdez is probably you failing to play both sides of a story...
AGAIN.

ROLF!!


Who's ROLF?

Grow up Karen. Grow the hell up.


That older woman really put a whammy on you, huh? I bet you have
a tattoo of her surrounded by the words: "The One That Got Away"!!

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


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From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

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From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.genera l,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

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From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

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From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
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Known and verified aliases:














Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"














--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Starbucks August 25th 05 01:34 AM

Harry,
You do seem to focus on homosexual fantasies, is there a reason for that?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
You should try hard to keep Harry over there, wherever that is!


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:52:25 -0500, Hoodoo wrote:

From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Chavez Offers Cheap Gas to Poor Americans
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:45:25 -0400
Message-ID:

Harry Krause wrote:

Bush is an utter, complete failure, a man entirely out of touch with
reality. He's flushing this country down the toilet.
And you're probably sharing the same methamphetamine as your butt-buddy,
john weasely gilmer III, because you're always talking out your ass...
although with you two, it's quite difficult to tell which end is up.

Here's only a partial list of aliases used by herr e. kkkrause's
identical twin brother:

--------------------------

With the evidence of your dozens of aliases included below, Juan
Valdez is probably you failing to play both sides of a story...
AGAIN.

ROLF!!
Who's ROLF?

Grow up Karen. Grow the hell up.
That older woman really put a whammy on you, huh? I bet you have
a tattoo of her surrounded by the words: "The One That Got Away"!!

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


===============================================
===============================================

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-----------

From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.general ,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

----------------------------------------

From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"

"Smelly Billy"
















Yup...newsgroup slime sticks together. You and Hoodoo are the pair,
Herring, and if Smithers joins in, you can have quite the menage.




Gorf August 25th 05 02:27 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Gorf" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
This "Able Danger" story is growing legs, and even the news media is
starting to ask questions again as to why so many important items

were
left
out the 9/11 report.
From the Washington Times:

Review finds no pre-9/11 Atta file
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 23, 2005

A Pentagon investigation has found no evidence

Wow! What did they spend, a whole couple of days looking?

\\\


poor nobby...another of his pet theories bites the bullet.


It hasn't bit anything yet. This investigation is just beginning.



Can't say as I know where it will go. The investigation into the whitehouse
treason of outing a CIA agenmt is still in the works also, but you don't
seem to hear a lot about it right now and this has been expanded into Bush
lying to get us into Iraq. Only time will tell - and maybe the elections in
2006....



*JimH* August 25th 05 02:35 AM

As you are concerned about posts being properly identified as OT when they
are not boating related I have done that for you with this thread NOYB.

I think this thread is now properly protected with an approved OT condom so
you can now carry on safely. ;-)

BTW: You may want to pay more attention to appropriately marking your posts
as OT when they are not boating related.

Some folks here have complained about that fact in the recent days. ;-)


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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This piece really tickles my fancy:

Chavez offers cheap gas to poor in U.S.

HAVANA, Cuba (Reuters) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, popular with
the poor at home, offered on Tuesday to help needy Americans with cheap
supplies of gasoline.

"We want to sell gasoline and heating fuel directly to poor communities
in the United States," the populist leader told reporters at the end of a
visit to Communist-run Cuba.

Chavez did not say how Venezuela would go about providing gasoline to
poor communities. Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA owns Citgo, which
has 14,000 gas stations in the United States.

The offer may sound attractive to Americans feeling pinched by soaring
prices at the pump but not to the U.S. government, which sees Chavez as a
left-wing troublemaker in Latin America.

Gasoline is cheaper than mineral water in oil-producing Venezuela, where
consumers can fill their tanks for less than $2. Average gas prices have
risen to $2.61 a gallon in the United States, according to the U.S.
Energy Information Administration.

***Chavez said Venezuela could supply gasoline to Americans at half the
price they now pay if intermediaries who "speculated ... and exploited
consumers" were cut out.***

Venezuela supplies Cuba with generously financed oil and plans to help
Caribbean nations foot their oil bills.

Chavez, in Cuba to attend the graduation of Cuban-trained doctors from 28
countries, was seen off at the airport by Cuban President Fidel Castro.
Washington has accused the two leaders of being a destabilizing influence
in South America.

Chavez and Castro offered to give poor Americans free health care and
train doctors free of charge.



- - - -


Cheap gas from Venezuela. cheap prescriptions from Canada, free health
care from Cuba...

Yeah, we're sure doing well under the Bush misAdministraiton.


You never heard of the economic concept of "comparative advantages"?

For some time now (and long before Bush took office), health care has been
cheaper in Cuba, prescriptions have been cheaper in Canada, and gas has
been cheaper in Venezuela. You decepetively imply that this is a "new"
thing that has only occurred in the last 5 years.

Nice try.




Tim August 25th 05 09:21 AM

The motivation of many of the folks who I know that moved here is that
Castro came in and took their homes, took their businesses, and put
their
family members in jail. ..."

And he still does


NOYB August 25th 05 01:38 PM


"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Gorf" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
This "Able Danger" story is growing legs, and even the news media is
starting to ask questions again as to why so many important items

were
left
out the 9/11 report.
From the Washington Times:

Review finds no pre-9/11 Atta file
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 23, 2005

A Pentagon investigation has found no evidence

Wow! What did they spend, a whole couple of days looking?
\\\


poor nobby...another of his pet theories bites the bullet.


It hasn't bit anything yet. This investigation is just beginning.



Can't say as I know where it will go. The investigation into the
whitehouse
treason of outing a CIA agenmt is still in the works also, but you don't
seem to hear a lot about it right now and this has been expanded into Bush
lying to get us into Iraq. Only time will tell - and maybe the elections
in
2006....


The only way either of those "investigations" (most would call them
witchhunts) will go forward is if the Dems in some miraculous way wrestle
the House and Senate from the Republicans in '06.

Since that is not likely to happen, any investigations by Congress will no
doubt focus around whatever the Republicans want them to focus around. It
seems that Republican Congressman Curt Weldon is helping to ensure that the
investigation will be about Able Danger, the "walls" created by Jamie
Gorelick, and any other evidence that was suppressed by the 9/11 Omission.




NOYB August 25th 05 01:40 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gorf wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Gorf" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
This "Able Danger" story is growing legs, and even the news media is
starting to ask questions again as to why so many important items

were
left
out the 9/11 report.
From the Washington Times:

Review finds no pre-9/11 Atta file
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
August 23, 2005

A Pentagon investigation has found no evidence
Wow! What did they spend, a whole couple of days looking?
\\\


poor nobby...another of his pet theories bites the bullet.
It hasn't bit anything yet. This investigation is just beginning.



Can't say as I know where it will go. The investigation into the
whitehouse
treason of outing a CIA agenmt is still in the works also, but you don't
seem to hear a lot about it right now and this has been expanded into
Bush
lying to get us into Iraq. Only time will tell - and maybe the elections
in
2006....




Right now, close to two thirds of Americans have had it with Bush and his
trumped-up war in Iraq.

So long as Americans are dying and this keeps happening, Bush's war
rightfully is considered a failu

"Baghdad — Dozens of insurgents wearing black uniforms and masks launched
the boldest assault in Baghdad in weeks, attacking Iraqi police Wednesday
with multiple car bombs and small-arms fire that killed at least 13 people
and wounded 43.

The violence came as politicians struggled to end a stalemate over the
country's draft constitution."

The "who shot cock robin" inquiry that so turns on NOYB isn't going to
change the minds of the American public, no matter what it reveals...or
doesn't reveal. Most Americans are beyond that, and they're forming their
opinions about Bush on the basis of his endless b.s., his lies, his
blindness, his arrogance and his failed initiatives.


The only bull**** floating around today is contained in that report written
by the 9/11 Omission.




NOYB August 25th 05 01:42 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
As you are concerned about posts being properly identified as OT when they
are not boating related I have done that for you with this thread NOYB.

I think this thread is now properly protected with an approved OT condom
so you can now carry on safely. ;-)

BTW: You may want to pay more attention to appropriately marking your
posts as OT when they are not boating related.

Some folks here have complained about that fact in the recent days. ;-)


Thank you, JimH for properly placing the OT in front of the thread.

Of course, you noticed that *I* didn't start this thread, right?




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