"Del Cecchi" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
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... The same "Enviromentalists" were saying global cooling in 1970.

Not really.


Del Cecchi wrote:
Apparently you were not able to recall a missive, the rallying point of
the enviros

Actually, I do remember it. Perhaps I should have explained a little
better... it's not the same people, and not the same argument.

Of course it isn't the same people and the same argument. Then it was
Paul Erlich, mass starvation and an ice age. He sold his books, had his
15 minutes of fame. Now it is rampant obesity and global warming and a
new crop of doomsayers. Why should I think these folks know what they are
talking about any more than Erlich did?

In fact, the ice age predicters might not have been wrong... we might be
entering an ice age, except for pollution & greenhouse gasses. If you
don't believe in global warming, or believe that it's due to completely
unknown sources, then you can't dismiss that possibility.

I see. It's an ice age and global warming. got it now. So we need to
pollute a carefully calibrated amount.

I bet they have a copy at the library. Perhaps you should take a walk
down memory lane and read it.

perhaps you should stop and ask yourself, 'does the increased caribou
population really mean that we can go ahead and destroy the arctic, too?'
Maybe you should ask yourself if Vice President Cheney doesn't have a
teensy little motive *other* than the good of the nation.

Got kids? Grandkids?

Ah, the last refuge of an environmentalist with no facts. It's for the
children and Cheney's Oil Buddies.
I presume this is some sort of reference to proposed drilling in ANWAR.
The harm to my grandchildren from drilling in ANWAR is way down on my list
of things to worry about. Some criminal or terrorist harming them, or
them getting run over by a bus or a car is much higher.

Tell me, if greenhouse gases are really such a threat to the environment,
why are Chinese, Indian, Mexican greenhouse gases not just as much a
problem as American and European greenhouse gases? Were there climate
fluctuations over the last say 1000 years before mankind was adding many
gases to the atmosphere? Why? Why are today's fluctuations man's fault
when the previous ones weren't?

Your last paragraph is key. The Kyoto accords were just a method of letting
rich countries buy pollution credits from poor countries. Nothing more than
a redistribution of wealth.