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Madelin McKinnon May 22nd 04 03:39 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
better buy a sailboat

Most journalists promote the delusion that the truth is "all sides of
the story".

Thomas Jefferson was wiser than that. "A Democracy cannot be both
ignorant and free". We have become obsessed with this so called
balance to present the view from the so called right as well as the
view from the so called left, and to keep the truth out of the
equation.

There is no left, no right and no middle when it comes to the simple
truth. If you can't figure it out for yourself, why don't you link to
websites that promote the truth, instead of pretending to be fair and
instaead of quoting journalists from the so called left as well as
journalists from the so called right, whenever it is convenient -for
the sake of boosting your own prejudices, while the truth is butchered
in the crossfire.

Unlike most paranoid and obsessive, left wing/right wing duels, the
websites of nsnews promote the truths that reasonable people, like
former prosecutors John Kerry advance while they struggle to create a
society that is not driven by
ignorance. Prosecutors like Tom Sneddon, do the exact opposite and
imperil the security of all by squandering scarce, law enforcement
resources that we cannot afford to waste.

It is clearly a huge challenge to uncover the truth in an environment
where we are encouraged to be ignorant for political reasons, and it
is time to act like law and order is as important as we say it is:

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/dunlap.htm

Bert Robbins May 22nd 04 06:07 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote:


On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:




Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of

Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if

Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that

time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.



Now say something good about Kerry.


Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.



Now say something good about Kerry.


Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.



Now say something good about Kerry.


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.



Now say something good about Kerry.


It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.



Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.


Something good about Kerry? Sure.

John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.


Did the military turn you down or did you wash out of boot camp?

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.


Anyone can be an intellectual, leaders are harder to find.


Just the opposite of the incompetent ass now in the White House, the
mismanager of about everything he touches.

Oh, and he's from Massachusetts and can spell it. I doubt Bush can spell
Connecticut without a crib sheet.


What does being from Massachusetts have to do with anything?



Bert Robbins May 22nd 04 06:12 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 08:11:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

If it is economically feasible it will happen. Until then tap ANWR and

the
coast of California and the Gulf of Mexico!


LOL, the old market economy. Personally, I don't think it's up to the
task.


Market economy's are the only ones that have produced wealth and impoved the
standard of living for all. If central control of all facets of an economy
worked to produce wealth and raise the standard of living for all then why
did communism fail? Communism couldn't compete toe to toe with a market
economy.

"It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go
of it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not correct. We have, or
soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as
this planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone, high-grade metallic
ores gone, no species however competent can make the long climb from
primitive conditions to high-level technology. This is a one-shot affair.
If we fail, this planetary system fails so far as intelligence is
concerned. The same will be true of other planetary systems. On each of
them there will be one chance, and one chance only. (Hoyle, 1964)"


You are not familiar with the cycle of life. Everyone and everything dies,
even the planets and the stars.



Bert Robbins May 22nd 04 06:23 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.




There's no doubt John Kerry is bright and articulate and has used those
virtues to position himself for his life goal of being president. I

have a
fundamental problem with that. I can respect those that have filled

their
bucket with some life experience and then become motivated to make a
difference. Kerry has been running for president since his high school

days
and I can't believe the motivation is anything other than personal.


I don't have a problem with Kerry's lifelong political ambitions. Some
of our best politicians have had that kind of drive. One of my favorite
Republicans, Bob Dole, went into politics almost immediately after the
the big war, and remained there until the end of his elected political
career.






\\\ Over
the years I've watched him talk the talk but not walk the walk. He
programmed himself 40 years ago in the style of his idol, JFK, but he is

no
JFK.



No, he isn't. No one had the style of JFK.


Billy Bob Clinton had JFK's ability to fabricate events, see Ted too, and
had a taste for ladies that were not his wife.



thunder May 22nd 04 08:47 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
On Sat, 22 May 2004 13:12:17 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


You are not familiar with the cycle of life. Everyone and everything dies,
even the planets and the stars.


Some sooner than later.

http://www.oilcrash.com/petroleum.htm

Harry Krause May 22nd 04 09:56 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


thunder wrote:



On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:





Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of


Mexico

and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if


Reagan

hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that


time

it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.


Now say something good about Kerry.



Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.


Now say something good about Kerry.



Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.


Now say something good about Kerry.



I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


Now say something good about Kerry.



It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.


Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.



Something good about Kerry? Sure.

John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.



Did the military turn you down or did you wash out of boot camp?



My comments about "something good about Kerry" have something to do with
your idiotic question? Is that how your peabrain works?








In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.



Anyone can be an intellectual, leaders are harder to find.


You couldn't be an intellectual. Neither can Bush. And he's not a
leader, either. He's a stunatz.




Just the opposite of the incompetent ass now in the White House, the
mismanager of about everything he touches.

Oh, and he's from Massachusetts and can spell it. I doubt Bush can spell
Connecticut without a crib sheet.



What does being from Massachusetts have to do with anything?



You really are a dummy.

Doug Kanter May 22nd 04 10:11 PM

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"jim--" wrote in message
...

BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.


Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and

demand?
Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.



Actually, members of his own party are unimpressed with his handling of the
situation, especially with regard to the national oil reserves. Hint: The
Saturday morning news shows for kids really don't offer enough depth of
information to enable you to jump into this conversation.



Doug Kanter May 22nd 04 10:12 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Take the blinders off and read something other than the front page of

the
Wash. Post and you will see that there is a two week backlog of ships
waiting in Austrailia to load coal bound for China.

Economic expansion can't occur without lots of energy and China is

expanding
at a massive rate and we are competing with them for limited oil

shipments.



Uh-huh...and the Bush Administration program for dealing with that
consists of...


Whoops.


There is no program.


Yeah there is. It's called "Aw hell....who needs Alaska?"



Doug Kanter May 22nd 04 10:14 PM

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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


Now say something good about Kerry.


At least he's not an idiot. He could not possibly do worse than your boy.



Harry Krause May 22nd 04 10:21 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


Now say something good about Kerry.



At least he's not an idiot. He could not possibly do worse than your boy.




Bush certainly sets the standard for incompetence.


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