Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

When adjusted for inflation these gas prices are not setting any records.


http://www.boston.com/business/artic...s_prices_not_r
eally/


But I'm still happy that some of the more unthinking
types seem to be blaming this on Bush. His crew got
support in many cases because people didn't think
very clearly. Now they are loosing support for the same
reason.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...
Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election, forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public support
for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by asserting
that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding voters of
the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts are
in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress to
adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal contains
a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand how
that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this country
will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said. "Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education, families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of attempting
to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera. Sheesh.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

Bert Robbins wrote:

So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election, forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public support
for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by asserting
that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding voters of
the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts are
in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress to
adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal contains
a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand how
that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this country
will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said. "Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education, families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of attempting
to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera. Sheesh.



For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message

news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election, forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public support
for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by asserting
that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding voters of
the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts are
in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress to
adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal contains
a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand how
that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this country
will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said. "Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education, families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of attempting
to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera.
Sheesh.



For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.

Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and demand?
Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:


So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message


news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election, forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public support
for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by asserting
that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding voters of
the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts are
in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress to
adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal contains
a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand how
that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this country
will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said. "Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education, families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of attempting
to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera.

Sheesh.


For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.


Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and demand?
Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.




Oh. I'm sorry. Our pump prices are the fault of the PRC...maybe Bush
should invade China and find those weapons of mass consumption.

We, of course, would not stand toe to toe with the PRC, or invade it. We
only take on the little guys.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:


So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message



news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election, forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public
support
for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John
Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by
asserting
that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding voters
of
the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts
are
in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress
to
adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal
contains
a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand
how
that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this
country
will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said. "Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education, families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of
attempting
to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera.

Sheesh.


For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.


Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and
demand?
Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now
taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.




Oh. I'm sorry. Our pump prices are the fault of the PRC...maybe Bush
should invade China and find those weapons of mass consumption.

We, of course, would not stand toe to toe with the PRC, or invade it. We
only take on the little guys.

Take the blinders off and read something other than the front page of the
Wash. Post and you will see that there is a two week backlog of ships
waiting in Austrailia to load coal bound for China.

Economic expansion can't occur without lots of energy and China is expanding
at a massive rate and we are competing with them for limited oil shipments.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

jim-- wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Bert Robbins wrote:



So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message



news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election, forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public

support

for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John

Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by

asserting

that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding voters

of

the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts

are

in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress

to

adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal

contains

a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand

how

that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this

country

will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said. "Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education, families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of

attempting

to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera.

Sheesh.


For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.


Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and

demand?

Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now

taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.




Oh. I'm sorry. Our pump prices are the fault of the PRC...maybe Bush
should invade China and find those weapons of mass consumption.

We, of course, would not stand toe to toe with the PRC, or invade it. We
only take on the little guys.


Take the blinders off and read something other than the front page of the
Wash. Post and you will see that there is a two week backlog of ships
waiting in Austrailia to load coal bound for China.

Economic expansion can't occur without lots of energy and China is expanding
at a massive rate and we are competing with them for limited oil shipments.



Uh-huh...and the Bush Administration program for dealing with that
consists of...


Whoops.


There is no program.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

jim-- wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Bert Robbins wrote:



So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message




news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election,
forcing
motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the
national
economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public

support

for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John

Kerry.

Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by

asserting

that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding
voters

of

the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the
American
people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts

are

in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress

to

adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal

contains

a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand

how

that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms
and
dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects
the
truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact
for
today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this

country

will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said.
"Already
strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education,
families
are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they
drive
to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some
reason,
the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of

attempting

to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera.

Sheesh.


For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline
at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.


Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and

demand?

Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now

taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.




Oh. I'm sorry. Our pump prices are the fault of the PRC...maybe Bush
should invade China and find those weapons of mass consumption.

We, of course, would not stand toe to toe with the PRC, or invade it. We
only take on the little guys.


Take the blinders off and read something other than the front page of
the
Wash. Post and you will see that there is a two week backlog of ships
waiting in Austrailia to load coal bound for China.

Economic expansion can't occur without lots of energy and China is
expanding
at a massive rate and we are competing with them for limited oil
shipments.



Uh-huh...and the Bush Administration program for dealing with that
consists of...

Everybody pays more for the raw materials, it is classic supply and demand.


Whoops.


There is no program.

Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico and
let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start building
more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


jim-- wrote:



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...



Bert Robbins wrote:




So, what is it, the Abu Grahib prison stuff or the price of gas?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message



news:c3dhc2g=.150883fd789ceed6bbc2dbed0f51b28a@108 5143224.nulluser.com...

Bush numbers slide as gas price becomes issue

By BILL STRAUB
Scripps Howard News Service
May 20, 2004

- Soaring gas prices have been added to the list of woes bedeviling
President Bush's increasingly shaky campaign for re-election,

forcing

motorists to dip deeper into their pockets at a time when the

national

economy as a whole is showing signs of recovery.

With oil prices exceeding $40 a barrel and the price at the pump
hurdling the $2 mark, energy costs are, along with waning public

support


for the war in Iraq, contributing to Bush's sliding popularity and
enhancing the prospects of Democratic presidential candidate John

Kerry.


Democrats this week have sought to use the gas-price issue by

asserting


that Bush has done little to address the problem and reminding

voters

of


the president's close ties to the petroleum industry.

"With gas prices breaking record high after record high, the

American

people are starting to wonder why this is happening," said Terry
McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "The facts

are


in. The Bush administration is in the pocket of big oil. And it's
hurting Americans in the pocketbook."

The president has offered few solutions, other than to urge Congress

to


adopt the energy policy he drafted two years ago. The proposal

contains


a controversial provision to open parts of Alaska's Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.

"I am concerned about the price of gasoline at the pump," Bush said
following a Cabinet meeting in the White House. "I fully understand

how


that affects American consumers, how it crimps the budgets of moms

and

dads who are trying to provide for their families, how it affects

the

truck driver, how it affects the small-business owner."

ANWR drilling, Bush said, "would obviously have a positive impact

for

today's consumers," and he demanded that Congress move "so this

country


will become less dependent on foreign sources of energy."

But critics note that nothing in the proposed energy policy would
address gas prices in the short term.

"We're seeing the economic opportunity of America's families
disappearing into gas tanks across the country," Kerry said.

"Already

strapped by rising costs in health care and higher education,

families

are losing the opportunity to save and get ahead every time they

drive

to work, pick up their kids or go out for dinner. And for some

reason,

the president is not lifting a finger to help."

Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, accused the Democrat of

attempting


to exploit the gas hikes to his political advantage.
---

D'oh. Well, of course, Ken. Quid pro quo, tit for tat, et cetera.

Sheesh.



For Bush, the negatives are piling up.


BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline

at

the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.


Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and

demand?


Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now

taking?


But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.




Oh. I'm sorry. Our pump prices are the fault of the PRC...maybe Bush
should invade China and find those weapons of mass consumption.

We, of course, would not stand toe to toe with the PRC, or invade it. We
only take on the little guys.


Take the blinders off and read something other than the front page of

the

Wash. Post and you will see that there is a two week backlog of ships
waiting in Austrailia to load coal bound for China.

Economic expansion can't occur without lots of energy and China is

expanding

at a massive rate and we are competing with them for limited oil

shipments.


Uh-huh...and the Bush Administration program for dealing with that
consists of...


Everybody pays more for the raw materials, it is classic supply and demand.


Whoops.


There is no program.


Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico and
let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start building
more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?




As I said, Bush has no program.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?

"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

thunder wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:



Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.



Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.

Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.

Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.

It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.

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Harry Krause wrote:

thunder wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:



Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?



"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.




Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.

Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.

Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.

It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.



Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.


$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.


I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.


Thanks, Dubya.

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?

"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

Your forgot to quote the entire sentence, so I'll do it for your.

"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make America
independent of Middle East oil in 10 years by creating alternative fuels
like ethanol and making cars more efficient."

If it is economically feasible it will happen. Until then tap ANWR and the
coast of California and the Gulf of Mexico!

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Kerry's priorities are nothing more than a world wide redistribution of
wealth.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:



Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.

Now say something good about Kerry.

Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.

Now say something good about Kerry.

Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.

Now say something good about Kerry.

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.

Now say something good about Kerry.

It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.

Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.

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On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change, and
an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.

I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.

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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote:


On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:




Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.


Now say something good about Kerry.


Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.


Now say something good about Kerry.


Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.


Now say something good about Kerry.


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


Now say something good about Kerry.


It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.


Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.


Something good about Kerry? Sure.

John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.


Just the opposite of the incompetent ass now in the White House, the
mismanager of about everything he touches.

Oh, and he's from Massachusetts and can spell it. I doubt Bush can spell
Connecticut without a crib sheet.

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On Sat, 22 May 2004 08:11:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

If it is economically feasible it will happen. Until then tap ANWR and the
coast of California and the Gulf of Mexico!

LOL, the old market economy. Personally, I don't think it's up to the
task.

"It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go
of it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not correct. We have, or
soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as
this planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone, high-grade metallic
ores gone, no species however competent can make the long climb from
primitive conditions to high-level technology. This is a one-shot affair.
If we fail, this planetary system fails so far as intelligence is
concerned. The same will be true of other planetary systems. On each of
them there will be one chance, and one chance only. (Hoyle, 1964)"

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.



There's no doubt John Kerry is bright and articulate and has used those
virtues to position himself for his life goal of being president. I have a
fundamental problem with that. I can respect those that have filled their
bucket with some life experience and then become motivated to make a
difference. Kerry has been running for president since his high school days
and I can't believe the motivation is anything other than personal. Over
the years I've watched him talk the talk but not walk the walk. He
programmed himself 40 years ago in the style of his idol, JFK, but he is no
JFK.

From personal experience, depend on him for help or action involving a
subject that US Senators regularly and routinely help with and, unless you
are important and can bring something to the table that will benefit him,
you'll be ignored.

Sorry, John Kerry is not the genuine article. Maybe if he picks John
McCain for a running mate he might learn to be a man of his word.

Eisboch

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thunder wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change, and
an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.



The situation would be better if there were some diversity of thought
among the House GOP members. They truly are BORG. Virtually everyone one
of them is a doctrinaire ultra-right marching to the Bush beat. When the
GOP was more of an open party, there were three or four wings that had a
more responsible outlook on what they were there for...and that is NOT
to be a rubber stamp for the Bush mis-administration.

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Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.




There's no doubt John Kerry is bright and articulate and has used those
virtues to position himself for his life goal of being president. I have a
fundamental problem with that. I can respect those that have filled their
bucket with some life experience and then become motivated to make a
difference. Kerry has been running for president since his high school days
and I can't believe the motivation is anything other than personal.

I don't have a problem with Kerry's lifelong political ambitions. Some
of our best politicians have had that kind of drive. One of my favorite
Republicans, Bob Dole, went into politics almost immediately after the
the big war, and remained there until the end of his elected political
career.






\\\ Over
the years I've watched him talk the talk but not walk the walk. He
programmed himself 40 years ago in the style of his idol, JFK, but he is no
JFK.


No, he isn't. No one had the style of JFK.




From personal experience, depend on him for help or action involving a
subject that US Senators regularly and routinely help with and, unless you
are important and can bring something to the table that will benefit him,
you'll be ignored.


Whatever you perceive as Kerry's shortcomings, I posit that he is better
equipped to do the job as POTUS than the foundering incumbent, who
finally is demonstrating to the world how little grey matter there is
between his ears.

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better buy a sailboat

Most journalists promote the delusion that the truth is "all sides of
the story".

Thomas Jefferson was wiser than that. "A Democracy cannot be both
ignorant and free". We have become obsessed with this so called
balance to present the view from the so called right as well as the
view from the so called left, and to keep the truth out of the
equation.

There is no left, no right and no middle when it comes to the simple
truth. If you can't figure it out for yourself, why don't you link to
websites that promote the truth, instead of pretending to be fair and
instaead of quoting journalists from the so called left as well as
journalists from the so called right, whenever it is convenient -for
the sake of boosting your own prejudices, while the truth is butchered
in the crossfire.

Unlike most paranoid and obsessive, left wing/right wing duels, the
websites of nsnews promote the truths that reasonable people, like
former prosecutors John Kerry advance while they struggle to create a
society that is not driven by
ignorance. Prosecutors like Tom Sneddon, do the exact opposite and
imperil the security of all by squandering scarce, law enforcement
resources that we cannot afford to waste.

It is clearly a huge challenge to uncover the truth in an environment
where we are encouraged to be ignorant for political reasons, and it
is time to act like law and order is as important as we say it is:

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/dunlap.htm

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote:


On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:




Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of
Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if
Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that
time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.


Now say something good about Kerry.


Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.


Now say something good about Kerry.


Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.


Now say something good about Kerry.


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


Now say something good about Kerry.


It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.


Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.


Something good about Kerry? Sure.

John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

Did the military turn you down or did you wash out of boot camp?

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.

Anyone can be an intellectual, leaders are harder to find.


Just the opposite of the incompetent ass now in the White House, the
mismanager of about everything he touches.

Oh, and he's from Massachusetts and can spell it. I doubt Bush can spell
Connecticut without a crib sheet.

What does being from Massachusetts have to do with anything?

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 08:11:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

If it is economically feasible it will happen. Until then tap ANWR and
the
coast of California and the Gulf of Mexico!

LOL, the old market economy. Personally, I don't think it's up to the
task.

Market economy's are the only ones that have produced wealth and impoved the
standard of living for all. If central control of all facets of an economy
worked to produce wealth and raise the standard of living for all then why
did communism fail? Communism couldn't compete toe to toe with a market
economy.

"It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go
of it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not correct. We have, or
soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as
this planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone, high-grade metallic
ores gone, no species however competent can make the long climb from
primitive conditions to high-level technology. This is a one-shot affair.
If we fail, this planetary system fails so far as intelligence is
concerned. The same will be true of other planetary systems. On each of
them there will be one chance, and one chance only. (Hoyle, 1964)"

You are not familiar with the cycle of life. Everyone and everything dies,
even the planets and the stars.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.




There's no doubt John Kerry is bright and articulate and has used those
virtues to position himself for his life goal of being president. I
have a
fundamental problem with that. I can respect those that have filled
their
bucket with some life experience and then become motivated to make a
difference. Kerry has been running for president since his high school
days
and I can't believe the motivation is anything other than personal.

I don't have a problem with Kerry's lifelong political ambitions. Some
of our best politicians have had that kind of drive. One of my favorite
Republicans, Bob Dole, went into politics almost immediately after the
the big war, and remained there until the end of his elected political
career.






\\\ Over
the years I've watched him talk the talk but not walk the walk. He
programmed himself 40 years ago in the style of his idol, JFK, but he is
no
JFK.


No, he isn't. No one had the style of JFK.

Billy Bob Clinton had JFK's ability to fabricate events, see Ted too, and
had a taste for ladies that were not his wife.

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On Sat, 22 May 2004 13:12:17 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


You are not familiar with the cycle of life. Everyone and everything dies,
even the planets and the stars.

Some sooner than later.

http://www.oilcrash.com/petroleum.htm

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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


thunder wrote:



On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:





Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of

Mexico

and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if

Reagan

hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that

time

it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.

Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.


Now say something good about Kerry.



Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.


Now say something good about Kerry.



Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.


Now say something good about Kerry.



I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


Now say something good about Kerry.



It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.


Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.



Something good about Kerry? Sure.

John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.


Did the military turn you down or did you wash out of boot camp?


My comments about "something good about Kerry" have something to do with
your idiotic question? Is that how your peabrain works?








In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.


Anyone can be an intellectual, leaders are harder to find.

You couldn't be an intellectual. Neither can Bush. And he's not a
leader, either. He's a stunatz.




Just the opposite of the incompetent ass now in the White House, the
mismanager of about everything he touches.

Oh, and he's from Massachusetts and can spell it. I doubt Bush can spell
Connecticut without a crib sheet.


What does being from Massachusetts have to do with anything?



You really are a dummy.

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"jim--" wrote in message
...

BTW, it'll be interesting to see comparisons of the price of gasoline at
the pump during the three years of the Bush mis-administration.

Hey dummy, did it ever dawn on you that it is a matter of supply and
demand?
Do you realize the enormous chunk of the supply that China is now taking?

But of course you will take the mindless approach of blaming Bush.

You really are an idiot.



Actually, members of his own party are unimpressed with his handling of the
situation, especially with regard to the national oil reserves. Hint: The
Saturday morning news shows for kids really don't offer enough depth of
information to enable you to jump into this conversation.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Take the blinders off and read something other than the front page of
the
Wash. Post and you will see that there is a two week backlog of ships
waiting in Austrailia to load coal bound for China.

Economic expansion can't occur without lots of energy and China is
expanding
at a massive rate and we are competing with them for limited oil
shipments.



Uh-huh...and the Bush Administration program for dealing with that
consists of...


Whoops.


There is no program.

Yeah there is. It's called "Aw hell....who needs Alaska?"

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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


Now say something good about Kerry.


At least he's not an idiot. He could not possibly do worse than your boy.

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


Now say something good about Kerry.



At least he's not an idiot. He could not possibly do worse than your boy.




Bush certainly sets the standard for incompetence.

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On Sat, 22 May 2004 21:14:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


Now say something good about Kerry.


At least he's not an idiot. He could not possibly do worse than your boy.


If I had a choice between Biden and Bush, I'd take Biden. Between Lieberman and
Bush, I'd take Lieberman. Between Kerry, a self-serving asshole, and Bush, I'll
take Bush every time.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and
an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.



The situation would be better if there were some diversity of thought
among the House GOP members. They truly are BORG. Virtually everyone one
of them is a doctrinaire ultra-right marching to the Bush beat. When the
GOP was more of an open party, there were three or four wings that had a
more responsible outlook on what they were there for...and that is NOT
to be a rubber stamp for the Bush mis-administration.

As the Democrat wing is ultra-left marching to the same drummer. If the
polls were saying there is a large demand for change, then Kerry would be
opening up a landslide number. I still feel that Kerry will not be the
presidential candidate for the Dems. Unless he gets a first vote win, it is
a brokered convention. Maybe the Dem's will put up a decent candidate.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and
an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.



The situation would be better if there were some diversity of thought
among the House GOP members. They truly are BORG. Virtually everyone one
of them is a doctrinaire ultra-right marching to the Bush beat. When the
GOP was more of an open party, there were three or four wings that had a
more responsible outlook on what they were there for...and that is NOT
to be a rubber stamp for the Bush mis-administration.

As the Democrat wing is ultra-left marching to the same drummer. If the
polls were saying there is a large demand for change, then Kerry would be
opening up a landslide number. I still feel that Kerry will not be the
presidential candidate for the Dems. Unless he gets a first vote win, it
is
a brokered convention. Maybe the Dem's will put up a decent candidate.



Could be a very interesting surprise.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote:


On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,

and

an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.



The situation would be better if there were some diversity of thought
among the House GOP members. They truly are BORG. Virtually everyone one
of them is a doctrinaire ultra-right marching to the Bush beat. When the
GOP was more of an open party, there were three or four wings that had a
more responsible outlook on what they were there for...and that is NOT
to be a rubber stamp for the Bush mis-administration.

As the Democrat wing is ultra-left marching to the same drummer. If the
polls were saying there is a large demand for change, then Kerry would be
opening up a landslide number. I still feel that Kerry will not be the
presidential candidate for the Dems. Unless he gets a first vote win, it

is

a brokered convention. Maybe the Dem's will put up a decent candidate.




Could be a very interesting surprise.





Unless Bush falls further in the polls, which I suppose is possible, I
don't see any sort of landslide numbers opening up. The country is
pretty evenly divided between the GOP and Democratic bases, with perhaps
10% of the voters undecided. It seems to me that whomever holds his base
and captures the majority of undecideds will win the popular vote and
the electoral college.

Kerry to me seems a good antidote to the Bush years. Kerry is unexciting
and contemplative; he's not a "hot" media candidate like Bush. But
Bush's media "hotness" carries over into his personality, and his
personality and other negatives are what have dropped us into the deep
**** we're in now.

I'll be perfectly happy if Kerry gets 1% more popular votes than Bush
and carries the Electoral College. That would be a nice victory. But
perhaps, with the cheating planned by the Bush-****ters and Diebold, a
larger percentage of popular votes for Kerry would be helpful, eh?

Looks like there is every chance the "Iraq" story will continue as a
disaster through the elections here. It's sad that so many will die, but
Bush created the mess and if he suffers politically because of it, well,
that's the price he should pay.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Unless Bush falls further in the polls, which I suppose is possible, I
don't see any sort of landslide numbers opening up. The country is
pretty evenly divided between the GOP and Democratic bases, with perhaps
10% of the voters undecided. It seems to me that whomever holds his base
and captures the majority of undecideds will win the popular vote and
the electoral college.

Kerry to me seems a good antidote to the Bush years. Kerry is unexciting
and contemplative; he's not a "hot" media candidate like Bush. But
Bush's media "hotness" carries over into his personality, and his
personality and other negatives are what have dropped us into the deep
**** we're in now.

Kerry is not an antidote to anything. Kerry could compete for the attention
of people that enjoy watching paint dry and grass grow. A leader needs to
have the ability to take in the available information and then make an
immediate decision.

I'll be perfectly happy if Kerry gets 1% more popular votes than Bush
and carries the Electoral College. That would be a nice victory. But
perhaps, with the cheating planned by the Bush-****ters and Diebold, a
larger percentage of popular votes for Kerry would be helpful, eh?

We, the Rebuplicans, must finally be learning how this election game is
played (i.e. Chicago, Florida and union elections).

Looks like there is every chance the "Iraq" story will continue as a
disaster through the elections here. It's sad that so many will die, but
Bush created the mess and if he suffers politically because of it, well,
that's the price he should pay.

Iraq is just the second battle in the war for the survival of western
culture.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote:


On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might
change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,

and

an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.



The situation would be better if there were some diversity of thought
among the House GOP members. They truly are BORG. Virtually everyone
one
of them is a doctrinaire ultra-right marching to the Bush beat. When
the
GOP was more of an open party, there were three or four wings that had
a
more responsible outlook on what they were there for...and that is NOT
to be a rubber stamp for the Bush mis-administration.

As the Democrat wing is ultra-left marching to the same drummer. If the
polls were saying there is a large demand for change, then Kerry would
be
opening up a landslide number. I still feel that Kerry will not be the
presidential candidate for the Dems. Unless he gets a first vote win,
it

is

a brokered convention. Maybe the Dem's will put up a decent candidate.




Could be a very interesting surprise.





Unless Bush falls further in the polls, which I suppose is possible, I
don't see any sort of landslide numbers opening up. The country is
pretty evenly divided between the GOP and Democratic bases, with perhaps
10% of the voters undecided. It seems to me that whomever holds his base
and captures the majority of undecideds will win the popular vote and
the electoral college.

Kerry to me seems a good antidote to the Bush years. Kerry is unexciting
and contemplative; he's not a "hot" media candidate like Bush. But
Bush's media "hotness" carries over into his personality, and his
personality and other negatives are what have dropped us into the deep
**** we're in now.

I'll be perfectly happy if Kerry gets 1% more popular votes than Bush
and carries the Electoral College. That would be a nice victory. But
perhaps, with the cheating planned by the Bush-****ters and Diebold, a
larger percentage of popular votes for Kerry would be helpful, eh?

Looks like there is every chance the "Iraq" story will continue as a
disaster through the elections here. It's sad that so many will die, but
Bush created the mess and if he suffers politically because of it, well,
that's the price he should pay.


Leaders have to be able to lead. Kerry has never shown this trait. I guess
a union guy knows about crooked elections. You also related to the Daley's?

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On Sun, 23 May 2004 18:01:11 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Leaders have to be able to lead. Kerry has never shown this trait.

Careful with your anti-military commentary.

bb

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"bb" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 May 2004 18:01:11 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Leaders have to be able to lead. Kerry has never shown this trait.

Careful with your anti-military commentary.

There is a difference between telling somebody what to do and actually
leading men.

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Bert Robbins wrote:

"bb" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 23 May 2004 18:01:11 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Leaders have to be able to lead. Kerry has never shown this trait.

Careful with your anti-military commentary.


There is a difference between telling somebody what to do and actually
leading men.



Yeah, and I'm sure you led the way to either the bar, the whorehouse or
the latrine.

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"bb" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 May 2004 18:01:11 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Leaders have to be able to lead. Kerry has never shown this trait.

Careful with your anti-military commentary.

bb


Other than showing his guys how to get 3 purple hearts for minor wounds, he
does not seem to have inspired his men.