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Harry Krause May 22nd 04 12:03 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
thunder wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:



Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?



"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.




Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.

Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.

Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.

It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.

Harry Krause May 22nd 04 12:25 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
Harry Krause wrote:

thunder wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:



Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?




"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.





Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.

Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.

Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.

It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.




Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.


$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.


I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.


Thanks, Dubya.






Bert Robbins May 22nd 04 01:11 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."


Your forgot to quote the entire sentence, so I'll do it for your.

"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make America
independent of Middle East oil in 10 years by creating alternative fuels
like ethanol and making cars more efficient."

If it is economically feasible it will happen. Until then tap ANWR and the
coast of California and the Gulf of Mexico!

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.


Kerry's priorities are nothing more than a world wide redistribution of
wealth.



Bert Robbins May 22nd 04 01:14 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:



Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?



"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.


Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.


Now say something good about Kerry.

Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.


Now say something good about Kerry.

Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.


Now say something good about Kerry.

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


Now say something good about Kerry.

It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.


Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.



thunder May 22nd 04 01:25 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change, and
an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.


I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.

Harry Krause May 22nd 04 01:27 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote:


On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:47:03 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:




Again, lets crack open ANWR, the coast of California, the Gulf of Mexico
and let's put those wind turbines off of Cape Cod. Oh, and let's start
building more nuclear plants.

What is your boy's program?


"John Kerry has the vision to create a new Manhattan Project to make
America independent of Middle East oil in 10 years ..."

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/energy/

It's probably too little too late. We might have had a chance if Reagan
hadn't gutted Carter's energy initiatives 25 years ago. Since that time
it is estimated we have burned up an additional 20-25% of the world's
total supply of oil.


Bush is an incompetent POTUS who mismanages about everything he tries.
He's done nothing of consequence to promote energy conservation,
probably because that would interfere with the profits of his buddies in
the petrol business.



Now say something good about Kerry.


Bush's pooched policies in Iraq are a direct cause of what is happening
at the gas pump because of the political fall-out in the Middle East. I
haven't looked yet, but I'm sure I can find a chart that shows what has
happened to gasoline prices during the Bush mis-administration.



Now say something good about Kerry.


Thie country cannot afford any more of George W. Bush. On election day,
hopefully, American voters will turn him out of office, perhaps by
numbers large enough that preclude another FIX by his rabid supporters.



Now say something good about Kerry.


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change,
and an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.



Now say something good about Kerry.


It's too bad the House isn't more closely matched. If it were, there
would be real hearings taking place now.



Your are too funny. Now say something good about Kerry.

Your are sounding more and more like a whinny little kid each day.


Something good about Kerry? Sure.

John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.


Just the opposite of the incompetent ass now in the White House, the
mismanager of about everything he touches.

Oh, and he's from Massachusetts and can spell it. I doubt Bush can spell
Connecticut without a crib sheet.




thunder May 22nd 04 01:32 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
On Sat, 22 May 2004 08:11:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

If it is economically feasible it will happen. Until then tap ANWR and the
coast of California and the Gulf of Mexico!


LOL, the old market economy. Personally, I don't think it's up to the
task.

"It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go
of it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not correct. We have, or
soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as
this planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone, high-grade metallic
ores gone, no species however competent can make the long climb from
primitive conditions to high-level technology. This is a one-shot affair.
If we fail, this planetary system fails so far as intelligence is
concerned. The same will be true of other planetary systems. On each of
them there will be one chance, and one chance only. (Hoyle, 1964)"

Eisboch May 22nd 04 02:07 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.



There's no doubt John Kerry is bright and articulate and has used those
virtues to position himself for his life goal of being president. I have a
fundamental problem with that. I can respect those that have filled their
bucket with some life experience and then become motivated to make a
difference. Kerry has been running for president since his high school days
and I can't believe the motivation is anything other than personal. Over
the years I've watched him talk the talk but not walk the walk. He
programmed himself 40 years ago in the style of his idol, JFK, but he is no
JFK.

From personal experience, depend on him for help or action involving a
subject that US Senators regularly and routinely help with and, unless you
are important and can bring something to the table that will benefit him,
you'll be ignored.

Sorry, John Kerry is not the genuine article. Maybe if he picks John
McCain for a running mate he might learn to be a man of his word.

Eisboch


Harry Krause May 22nd 04 02:13 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
thunder wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2004 07:03:19 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I'm almost feeling that there is a possibility the Senate might change
hands, too. Maybe. The polls are showing the voters want real change, and
an upheaval in Congress is a good place to start.



I'm in the anybody but Bush camp, but if you wanted a real change, I'm
afraid you would have to throw them all out, both the Democrats and
Republicans.




The situation would be better if there were some diversity of thought
among the House GOP members. They truly are BORG. Virtually everyone one
of them is a doctrinaire ultra-right marching to the Bush beat. When the
GOP was more of an open party, there were three or four wings that had a
more responsible outlook on what they were there for...and that is NOT
to be a rubber stamp for the Bush mis-administration.

Harry Krause May 22nd 04 02:29 PM

Trouble at the Pump for Bush?:
 
Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Kerry is a bright, articulate guy, a thinker, a fellow who takes
advantage of his liberal arts education and on major issues, ponders
alternatives, sees a number of sides, and tries to fomulate solutions
that take into account the fact that some challenges cannot be solved
with simple-minded sound-bites or putting on a jump suit and pretending
you're a soldier.

In other words, he is somewhat of an intellectual, a man who is capable
of thinking and does so.




There's no doubt John Kerry is bright and articulate and has used those
virtues to position himself for his life goal of being president. I have a
fundamental problem with that. I can respect those that have filled their
bucket with some life experience and then become motivated to make a
difference. Kerry has been running for president since his high school days
and I can't believe the motivation is anything other than personal.


I don't have a problem with Kerry's lifelong political ambitions. Some
of our best politicians have had that kind of drive. One of my favorite
Republicans, Bob Dole, went into politics almost immediately after the
the big war, and remained there until the end of his elected political
career.






\\\ Over
the years I've watched him talk the talk but not walk the walk. He
programmed himself 40 years ago in the style of his idol, JFK, but he is no
JFK.



No, he isn't. No one had the style of JFK.




From personal experience, depend on him for help or action involving a
subject that US Senators regularly and routinely help with and, unless you
are important and can bring something to the table that will benefit him,
you'll be ignored.



Whatever you perceive as Kerry's shortcomings, I posit that he is better
equipped to do the job as POTUS than the foundering incumbent, who
finally is demonstrating to the world how little grey matter there is
between his ears.


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