U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A small amount of the nerve agent sarin was found in a
shell that exploded in Iraq, the U.S. army said Monday in the first
announcement of discovery of any of the weapons on which Washington made its
case for war.



Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told a news conference the substance had been
found in an artillery shell inside a bag discovered by a U.S. convoy a few
days ago. The round had exploded, causing a small release of the substance,
he said.


"The Iraq Survey Group has confirmed today that a 155 (mm) artillery round
containing sarin nerve agent had been found. The round had been rigged as an
IED (improvised explosive device) that was discovered by a U.S. force
convoy," he said.


"A detonation occurred before the IED be could be rendered inoperable,"
Kimmitt said, adding that two members of an explosives team had been treated
for exposure to the substance.


Kimmitt said the round, designed to mix the sarin in flight, belonged to a
class of ordnance that the ousted government of Saddam Hussein claimed to
have destroyed before the 1991 Gulf war.


"It is a weapon that we believe was stocked from the ex-regime time, and it
had been thought to be an ordinary artillery shell set up to explode like an
ordinary IED... when it exploded it indicated that it actually had some
sarin in it," he said.


IEDs are bombs usually planted at the side of the road to explode as
coalition vehicles pass.


The United States launched its invasion of Iraq last year, accusing
then-president Saddam Hussein of developing chemical, biological and
possibly nuclear weapons. Failure to find such weapons has stirred criticism
in the United States and Britain, Washington's closest ally in the war.



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In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq. We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about that
one as well.

NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.

... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had an
shell full of sarin...

Good work, comrade NOBBY.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Please provide the following information:

1) Wednesday's winning Lotto numbers for NY.
2) The number of fish I will catch this evening, and what species.
3) Which of your patients will be in a car accident within the next 6
months.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered
our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to
me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops.
Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right
about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had
an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Please provide the following information:

1) Wednesday's winning Lotto numbers for NY.
2) The number of fish I will catch this evening, and what species.
3) Which of your patients will be in a car accident within the next 6
months.

Number 3 would be easy. When they're deaf and near-blind, and their cars
look like they're fresh off the set of Mad Max, it's a sure bet that they'll
be in an accident withing the next 6 months. Number 2 would be easy as
well: you'll catch no fish tonight. Number 1 is purely random, so there's
no way to accurately predict it.

Number 4, "Finding the WMD", is a sure thing however.

Sorry Noyb... You appear to be wrong again

http://www.wtkr.com/global/story.asp?s=1873574
Rumsfeld says it wasn't necessarily sarin

Washington-AP -- Don't jump to any conclusions just yet. That warning comes
from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, after the U-S military in Iraq
announced that a roadside bomb containing sarin nerve gas had exploded near
a U-S military convoy.

Rumsfeld told a Washington, D-C audience that the "field test" showing the
presence of sarin may not be accurate. He says more analysis needs to be
done -- and that it may take some time to find out just what the chemical
was.

In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam
era. They said two members of a military bomb squad were treated for "minor
exposure" -- but that there were no serious injuries.

One official says the shell apparently contained two chemicals that are
designed to combine and create sarin -- but that they didn't mix properly.

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda
agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to
keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and
the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered
our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks
to
me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al
Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops.
Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right
about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis
had
an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Please provide the following information:

1) Wednesday's winning Lotto numbers for NY.
2) The number of fish I will catch this evening, and what species.
3) Which of your patients will be in a car accident within the next 6
months.

Number 3 would be easy. When they're deaf and near-blind, and their cars
look like they're fresh off the set of Mad Max, it's a sure bet that
they'll
be in an accident withing the next 6 months. Number 2 would be easy as
well: you'll catch no fish tonight. Number 1 is purely random, so
there's
no way to accurately predict it.

Number 4, "Finding the WMD", is a sure thing however.

NOYB wrote:
Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...

You mean, paying attention to the facts is "screwed up?"


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Sure, NOBBY, sure.

Meanwhile, please explain to me what ties Al Zaqarwi had with Saddam
Hussein... when he was living & operating in an area where the US
exerted more control than Iraq...

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
news
That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Sure, NOBBY, sure.

Meanwhile, please explain to me what ties Al Zaqarwi had with Saddam
Hussein... when he was living & operating in an area where the US
exerted more control than Iraq...

DSK

Easy there, Doug. You're dealing with someone who needs to have a minimal
amount of information perfectly arranged and never disturbed. Sort of like
Dustin Hoffman in "Rainman".

"DSK" wrote in message
news
NOYB wrote:
Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...

You mean, paying attention to the facts is "screwed up?"


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Sure, NOBBY, sure.

Meanwhile, please explain to me what ties Al Zaqarwi had with Saddam
Hussein... when he was living & operating in an area where the US
exerted more control than Iraq...

According to Colin Powell's speech to the UN on Feb. 5th, 2003:


a.. Abu Musaq Zaqarwi: poison terror training center, including ricin.
Photo of factory at Kurmal. One pinch kills in 72 hours, no antidote.
a.. Developed with al Qaeda safe haven in Kurdish NE Iraq, where Saddam
has agent.
a.. Terrorists have gathered in Baghdad for 8 months. In contact with al-
Zaqarwi.

Colon Powel last Sunday on Meet The Press... We have found that our
multisourced information from before the war was incorrect.

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
news
NOYB wrote:
Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...

You mean, paying attention to the facts is "screwed up?"


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Sure, NOBBY, sure.

Meanwhile, please explain to me what ties Al Zaqarwi had with Saddam
Hussein... when he was living & operating in an area where the US
exerted more control than Iraq...

According to Colin Powell's speech to the UN on Feb. 5th, 2003:


a.. Abu Musaq Zaqarwi: poison terror training center, including ricin.
Photo of factory at Kurmal. One pinch kills in 72 hours, no antidote.
a.. Developed with al Qaeda safe haven in Kurdish NE Iraq, where Saddam
has agent.
a.. Terrorists have gathered in Baghdad for 8 months. In contact with
al-
Zaqarwi.