U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A small amount of the nerve agent sarin was found in a
shell that exploded in Iraq, the U.S. army said Monday in the first
announcement of discovery of any of the weapons on which Washington made its
case for war.



Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told a news conference the substance had been
found in an artillery shell inside a bag discovered by a U.S. convoy a few
days ago. The round had exploded, causing a small release of the substance,
he said.


"The Iraq Survey Group has confirmed today that a 155 (mm) artillery round
containing sarin nerve agent had been found. The round had been rigged as an
IED (improvised explosive device) that was discovered by a U.S. force
convoy," he said.


"A detonation occurred before the IED be could be rendered inoperable,"
Kimmitt said, adding that two members of an explosives team had been treated
for exposure to the substance.


Kimmitt said the round, designed to mix the sarin in flight, belonged to a
class of ordnance that the ousted government of Saddam Hussein claimed to
have destroyed before the 1991 Gulf war.


"It is a weapon that we believe was stocked from the ex-regime time, and it
had been thought to be an ordinary artillery shell set up to explode like an
ordinary IED... when it exploded it indicated that it actually had some
sarin in it," he said.


IEDs are bombs usually planted at the side of the road to explode as
coalition vehicles pass.


The United States launched its invasion of Iraq last year, accusing
then-president Saddam Hussein of developing chemical, biological and
possibly nuclear weapons. Failure to find such weapons has stirred criticism
in the United States and Britain, Washington's closest ally in the war.



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In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq. We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about that
one as well.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A small amount of the nerve agent sarin was found in
a
shell that exploded in Iraq, the U.S. army said Monday in the first
announcement of discovery of any of the weapons on which Washington
made its
case for war.



Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told a news conference the substance
had been
found in an artillery shell inside a bag discovered by a U.S. convoy a
few
days ago. The round had exploded, causing a small release of the
substance,
he said.



1. We have no idea where this bit of sarin originated. It could have
come from ebay.

2. What is interesting is that the Iraqi insurgents are now using
this against US troops, but Saddam didn't. I would say that "that" is
is the important fact, and demonstrates what we are in for as long as we
maintain ourselves as the invaders of Iraq.

Saddam truly believed that there'd be an eleventh hour deal brokered by the
French or Russians...and if he could hide his weapons until the heat dropped
a little, he'd escape with his hidden weapons intact.

Obviously, the al Qaeda terrorists have stumbled across the hidden WMD
before we did. Or they've brought 'em back from Syria (the place where they
were sent before the war).



3. A bit of sarin is hardly a WMD.

Depends upon if you're upwind or downwind after a sarin-filled munition is
detonated, eh?

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A small amount of the nerve agent sarin was found
in
a
shell that exploded in Iraq, the U.S. army said Monday in the first
announcement of discovery of any of the weapons on which Washington
made its
case for war.



Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told a news conference the substance
had been
found in an artillery shell inside a bag discovered by a U.S. convoy a
few
days ago. The round had exploded, causing a small release of the
substance,
he said.



1. We have no idea where this bit of sarin originated. It could have
come from ebay.

2. What is interesting is that the Iraqi insurgents are now using
this against US troops, but Saddam didn't. I would say that "that" is
is the important fact, and demonstrates what we are in for as long as we
maintain ourselves as the invaders of Iraq.

Saddam truly believed that there'd be an eleventh hour deal brokered by
the
French or Russians...and if he could hide his weapons until the heat
dropped
a little, he'd escape with his hidden weapons intact.

Based on the info so far, you need to remove the "s" from "weapons".

NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.

... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had an
shell full of sarin...

Good work, comrade NOBBY.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops. Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Please provide the following information:

1) Wednesday's winning Lotto numbers for NY.
2) The number of fish I will catch this evening, and what species.
3) Which of your patients will be in a car accident within the next 6
months.

On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:26 +0000, NOYB wrote:

U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq

"However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not
signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of
insurgent activity."

"He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials
were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3722255.stm

NOYB wrote:
Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...

You mean, paying attention to the facts is "screwed up?"


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Sure, NOBBY, sure.

Meanwhile, please explain to me what ties Al Zaqarwi had with Saddam
Hussein... when he was living & operating in an area where the US
exerted more control than Iraq...

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
news
That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Sure, NOBBY, sure.

Meanwhile, please explain to me what ties Al Zaqarwi had with Saddam
Hussein... when he was living & operating in an area where the US
exerted more control than Iraq...

DSK

Easy there, Doug. You're dealing with someone who needs to have a minimal
amount of information perfectly arranged and never disturbed. Sort of like
Dustin Hoffman in "Rainman".

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:
In February, 2003, Powell said that al Zaqarwi was an al Qaeda agent
operating in northeastern Iraq.

You mean, in the Kurd controlled area? How long are you going to keep
shooting yourself in the foot with this one?

Actually, since most of the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis, and the
Bush family as well as the Bush/Cheney administration are great pals
with the Saudis; + the fact that this guy al Zaqarwi was in Kurd
territory and not only did Bush buddy up to the Kurds but he angered
our
long standing & staunch allies the Turks by doing so... that looks to
me
like there is a better case to be made that Bush has ties to Al Queda
than that Saddam did.


Perhaps in *your* screwed up mind...


... We now know that is true, as he's the one
currently organizing the attacks against US and Iraqi troops.
Powell
also
mentioned something about WMD's, didn't he? Seems he was right
about
that
one as well.

Yes, I distinctly remember him saying to the U.N. that the Iraqis had
an
shell full of sarin...


That shell is the tip of the iceberg.

Please provide the following information:

1) Wednesday's winning Lotto numbers for NY.
2) The number of fish I will catch this evening, and what species.
3) Which of your patients will be in a car accident within the next 6
months.

Number 3 would be easy. When they're deaf and near-blind, and their cars
look like they're fresh off the set of Mad Max, it's a sure bet that they'll
be in an accident withing the next 6 months. Number 2 would be easy as
well: you'll catch no fish tonight. Number 1 is purely random, so there's
no way to accurately predict it.

Number 4, "Finding the WMD", is a sure thing however.